15031Re: Re:[orthodox-synod]Re: Glorifications by HOCNA [was:Canonization by HOCNA)
- Aug 31, 2005I think that those who have found occasion to make pronouncements concerning
Saint Augustine to the 775 people subscribed to this list, might do well to
review the collection of articles found at this link:
there are a variety of articles from a number of sources:
Orthodox Tradition, Archbishop Chrysostomos, Archbishop Mark(ROCOR), etc.
of particular note is the following exerpt:
"There are those who argue that Saint Augustine (†430) wrote a number of
things inconsistent with the consensus of the Fathers, especially with
regard to sin and human guilt before God and the nature of Grace. This is
partly because distortions and overstatements of certain
among his theological precepts by Medieval and Reformation thinkers have
been unfairly attributed to the Saint himself. In fact, though, one
would be hard-pressed to find in the writings of St. Augustine evidence of
an intentional distortion of the Church’s teachings or signs of
tenacious resistance to correction by his contemporaries. Indeed, Pope
Vigilius [†555], in reconciling himself to the decisions of the Fifth
Œcumenical Synod, invoked the memory, among "...our Fathers," of the
"blessed Augustine" for his willingness to retract and correct various among
his "writings" and "sayings" ("Decretal Letter," The Nicene and
Post-Nicene Fathers, 2nd series, Vol. XIV). Rather, St. Augustine’s works
are marked by profound personal piety, a spirit of contrition, and a
relentless deference to the teaching authority of the Church: traits of
While I am not one worthy to hold an opinion before so large a number of
intelligent and spiritually minded people, I would say I was having a
certain thought, derived from thoughts that arose at various words and
sentiments I was hearing on this list.
It is a good thing to be correct, but I think it is a much better thing to
be capable of correction and progress.
It seems to me that sometimes in our urge to label and measure things, to
simplify that which is difficult for us to understand, we perhaps may deny
the saints their humanity and lose sight of the essential virtue they
possess. The saints were human and occasionally made mistakes, but they
repented and strove to correct themselves. I think the virtue of the saint,
that is to be emulated by us who are lacking in virtue, is their striving
toward God and their making great efforts. This seems to me to be the
essence of their sanctity. I does not seem to me that St Mark of Ephesus
was called a saint because he made pronouncement X or Y; rather I think he
is called a saint because he loved Christ and made great efforts in his
strivings towards God.
St Isidore of Peliseum once said: "The two grinding and the one taken differ
only in disposition."
You will forgive I hope my comments, if they are to the left or the right.
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