14430Re: [orthodox-synod] Re: Associated Press Reports on Documents
- Jul 1, 2005Mr. Kozyreff should apologize.
In response to a question about whether any monasteries in Russia had
swimming pools--he responds: "See below."
And proceeds to cite an article in which **no monastery at all** is mentioned.
A normal person would consider this to be a sign of idiocy.
With love in Christ,
Prot. Alexander Lebedeff
At 02:57 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
>Dear Father John, bless.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>You write: "Are you saying that any of the Russian monasteries do
>have swimming pools?"
>Please see below.
>Ecumenical News International (ENI)
>Mushrooms and French soup are a feast fit for a patriarch
>Warsaw (ENI). The head of Russia's Orthodox church has revealed that
>he likes picking mushrooms and eating French onion soup, but he
>dislikes mobile cell phones, and avoids carrying one himself.
>"I'm a mushroom collector - it's my real hobby," said Patriarch
>Alexei II in an interview with Russia's Gazieta daily newspaper,
>saying he had also developed a yearning for onion soup while staying
>in Paris four decades ago.
>In the interview published on 3 May, the 76-year-old patriarch said
>he preferred his country seat outside Moscow, with its library,
>running track and swimming pool, to his official city-centre
>residence. He added that he had been advised by doctors to take "at
>least 8000 steps daily".
>--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Fr. John R. Shaw"
> > Vladimir Kozyreff wrote:
> > > The apostolic succession of the present "MP" is at least
> > > The true MP was destroyed by Stalin and ceased to exist. Later, a
> > > false one was created by Stalin, which claimed (logically, how
> > > to be the continuation of the true MP. The true MP was our mother
> > > Church, not the present, false MP.
> > JRS: Who consecrated Metropolitan Sergius and the other bishops of
> > Patriarchate?
> > When we speak of "apostolic succession", this is what we have in
>mind: not the declarations
> > or statements made by bishops, but by the fact that they were
>consecrated by other bishops,
> > and that those bishops in turn were consecrated by others, in a
>succession going back to the
> > Apostles.
> > > You write"If the Patriarchate itself had no authority whatever,
> > > could hardly invalidate anything: not even the statements of
> > > Metropolitan Sergius".
> > >
> > > The "Patriarch" is not requested to exert any authority, but to
> > > acknowledge his not being a patriarch, to disappear from public
> > > and to abandon his false pretences.
> > JRS: He has not done that, nor has our Church Abroad ever asked him
> > However, if, as in your previous posting, you derive
>any "validation" or "invalidation" from the
> > official statements of the Moscow Patriarchate -- then you do give
>it some recognition.
> > > He would be well inspired to
> > > retire in a monastery without a swimming pool.
> > JRS: Are you saying that any of the Russian monasteries do have
> > In Christ
> > Fr. John R. Shaw
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