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14415Re: Associated Press Reports on Documents

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  • vkozyreff
    Jul 1, 2005
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      Dear Father Alexander, bless.

      If they believe what they say, the MP hierarchs should immediately
      retire.

      The supposedly admirable text says:

      "do not express the true voice of the Church of Christ (and) are
      deemed no longer valid".

      instead of saying:

      · "has never expressed the voice of the true Church of Christ,
      · and has never been valid

      As a consequence,

      · it invalidates the supposed canonicity of the supposed Church
      that was organised according to that declaration,
      · invalidates the supposed legitimacy of all the supposed
      hierarchs that were ever appointed in the framework of that false
      church
      · invalidates the supposed canonicity of the presently
      supposed "Patriarcate of Moscow"

      In God,

      Vladimir Kozyreff


      --- In orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com, "Fr. Alexander Lebedeff"
      <lebedeff@w...> wrote:
      > From the AP Newswire:
      >
      >
      >
      > Russian Orthodoxy disavows Soviet-era document in step toward
      reunion with
      > foreign church
      >
      > MOSCOW (AP) - The Russian Orthodox Church has disavowed a Soviet-
      era
      > declaration of loyalty to the Communist government, a step that
      could help
      > bring reunion with an emigre church that has been separate since
      1920.
      >
      > The New York-based Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia severed
      contacts
      > with the Moscow-based church after Patriarch Sergiy issued the
      loyalty
      > declaration in 1927.
      >
      > The Moscow Patriarchate has said Sergiy did this to save the church
      from
      > ruin, but a new document on its Web site says the declaration was
      among
      > documents that "do not express the true voice of the Church of
      Christ (and)
      > are deemed no longer valid."
      >
      > The Web site presented several documents drafted by delegates of
      the Moscow
      > Patriarchate and the foreign church and approved by their
      respective synods.
      >
      > The two churches set up working groups on reunification issues
      after a 2003
      > visit to Russia by three archbishops of the foreign church and a
      2004 visit
      > by its head, Metropolitan Laurus.
      >
      > The documents went further than ever before toward apology by the
      Moscow
      > Patriarchate for Soviet-era compromises with the state.
      >
      > "Some clergymen and laypersons, trampling upon divine truth,
      facilitated
      > the persecutors in their actions directed toward the destruction of
      the
      > church," said a posted document. "Such actions cannot under any
      > circumstances be permitted and justified: they deserve all
      condemnation."
      >
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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