13102Re: Commemoration of the Heterodox (Was: Excellent advice from Fr. Tikhon Shevkunov)
- Dec 2, 2004--- In email@example.com, "Fr. John R. Shaw"
> JRS: There is no rule that one particle or crumb must representevery name, and even those clergy who generate a huge pile of
crumbs, do not really have an exact relationship between every
particle and every name.
Furthermore, since these crumbs are *not consecrated*, and not
given in communion, a huge pile of them only complicates the
celebration of the Liturgy, especially for the deacon who must
consume the Holy Gifts.
Fr Raphael Vereshack: It has taken me a number of years to reach
this same conclusion both from the evidence of the proskomedia
itself and by watching what other priests do. But some speak of the
particles almost as if they were 'consecrated'; ie if there is not
one particle for each name read then the person is not really prayed
for. I think this whole subject needs to be addressed more clearly.
> > In this case I havecommemoration
> > always wondered about the non-Orthodox names on the
> > slips or books.Orthodox people".
> JRS: There is no way to be sure about "Orthodox" and "non-Orthodox
>Fr RV: I wasn't expressing myself clearly. I meant "names of non-
In Christ- Fr Raphael Vereshack
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