12778Re: [orthodox-synod] Re: MP nachala sud! Bozos in the woodwork!
- Oct 26, 2004Dear Vladimir,
Would you kindly point out a place in the Bible where a requirement for hereditary orthodox Tzar ( Ceasar ) is articulated. The best I recall my high scholl history Ceasars were ellected or alternatively came to power through violence. Bible just advises to give into Ceasars what is due ... .
You are not seriously advocating a full blown ceasaropapism where our respected Synod of Bishops will assume legislative, judicial and executive duties over the russian folks once we take over ? I say we bring back the serfdom and stop teaching reading while we are at it.
vkozyreff <vladimir.kozyreff@...> wrote:
Your argument that tsars are acceptable for illiterate nations and
have no place in literate nations is not orthodox thinking. Your
view is humanistic, not faith oriented.
According to the orthodox thinking, we are on earth to work for our
salvation. Giving the power to the literate majority rather than to
an anointed tsar is assuming that literacy (intellectual knowledge)
is what saves, not faith and rectitude.
The enlightenment considers that faith is darkness and intellectual
science is light. This is free mason thinking.
We, orthodox, consider that faith, not science is what leads us to
God. God is not to be found in humanism, in scientific or
philosophic research but in prayer and faith. For us, faith is light
and science, unless inspired by faith is darkness (nuclear weapons,
human cloning, abortion,�). That is the meaning of the original sin,
of the three of knowledge of good and evil, of man wanting to be God
by his own force.
The majority rule among knowledgeable people endlessly fighting one
another in political debates has nothing to do with our salvation.
It makes sense for an orthodox to have a government that is in
symphony with the Church.. Of course, we understand that the enemies
of Russia and of Christ had and have another agenda.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, antiquariu@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 10/22/2004 6:47:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> ourlittlecity@a... writes:
> Please submit your evidience that Monarchies possess Divine Right.
> Please submit your evidence that Monarchial Rule is inherently
> other types of government?
> Dear in-Christ List!
> The questions above were addressed to Vladimir Kozyreff, not to
me. Due to
> strange cuttign and pasting, I somehow received credit for the
> For the record, I do not believe in monarchial divine right,
and do not
> accept the notion of "God-anointed sovereigns" of any ilk, nor do
I feel that
> marchies are inherently sanctified, or, for that matter, even
> As I said before, they served a valid role for largely illiterate
> gullible populations. In my opinion, they cannot and should not
have a role today.
> Vova Hindrichs
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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