12281Re: [orthodox-synod] Re: It Is Time to Know Our History
- Sep 4, 2004Vladimir Kozyreff wrote:
>Obviously, a vote could not be an adequate instrument to establishHere is what Metropolitan Vitaly wrote on the question of grace in the
>the spiritual truth. Even more, it cannot be a way of establishing
>the factual truth. This however does not stop the apologists of
>the "desired rapprochement" to claim that "the ROCOR has never denied
>that the MP had grace and conversely". They stick to their position
>even if their proposal is infirmed by the facts. For some in ROCOR
>(L) a proclamation weighs heavier than facts.
Moscow Patriarchate on May 13/26, 1990:
>"Íàøà Ðóññêàÿ Ïðàâîñëàâíàÿ Çàðóáåæíàÿ Öåðêîâü íèêîãäà íå çàÿâëÿëà î òîì,"Our Russian Orthodox Church never stated that the Moscow Patriarchate in
>÷òî Ìîñêîâñêàÿ Ïàòðèàðõèÿ â ñâîåé ñîâîêóïíîñòè áåçáëàãîäàòíàÿ, èáî åñëè
>ýòî áûëî áû òàê, òî âñå åÿ òàèíñòâà áûëè áû ëèøåíû áëàãîäàòè Ñâàòàãî Äóõà.
>Äðóãèìè ñëîâàìè âåñü ðóññêèé íàðîä êðåùåííûé áûë áû íå êðåùåííûé, íå
>âåí÷àííûé, íå ïðèîáùåííûé ê Ñâÿòûì Òàéíàì Õðèñòîâûì. Çäåñü â ýìèãðàöèè
>ñðàçó æå ïîñëå Âòîðîé Ìèðîâîé Âîéíû, êîãäà ñîòíè òûñÿ÷ü ðóññêèõ íå
>âåðíóëèñü íà ðîäèíó è âîøëè âñå â íàøè ïðèõîäû, òî èç èõ íåäð âûøëî öåëîå
>òå÷åíèå ìûñëè ÷òî âîîáùå Ìîñê. Ïàòðèàðõèÿ íå ìîæåò íèêàê áûòü áëàãîäàòíîé.
>Ñ ïîìîùèþ Áîæèåé íàì óäàëîñü ñïðàâèòñÿ ñ ýòèì íåïðàâîìûñëèåì è òåïåðü
>î÷åíü ðåäêî âñòðå÷àåøü åùå ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé ýòîãî òå÷åíèÿ."
>Ìèòðîïîëèò Âèòàëèé, 26-13 ìàÿ 1990 ã.
its entirety is graceless, for if this had been so, then all of her
mysteries would have been devoid of the grace of the Holy Spirit. In other
words all of the baptized Russian people would have been unbaptized,
unwedded, un-communicated to the Holy Mysteries of Christ. Here in the
emigration right after the Second World War, when hundreds of thousands of
Russians did not return to their Motherland and joined all of our parishes,
form their interior came forward a whole current of thought that the Moscow
Patriarchate can not at all in any way be grace-filled. With the help of
God we were able to deal with such incorrect thought and now one very
rarely still comes across a representative of this current.
Metropolitan Vitaly, 13/26 May, 1990"
Vladimir, was Metropolitan Vitaly lying when he stated that our Church
Abroad has never declared the Moscow Patriarchate in its entirety to be
Do you believe differently from Metropolitan Vitaly on this issue?
With love in Christ,
Prot. Alexander Lebedeff
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