10187Re: ROCA-ROCOR members in Moscow (Official)
- Feb 12, 2004Dear Father John, bless.
You say that the MP is not interested by the ROCOR properties. What
is then the meaning of the well known ROCOR declaration below?
"Statement of the Synod of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church
Outside of Russia to the Russian Orthodox People
The leadership of the Moscow Patriarchate has now officially declared
that it views the property of the Russian Church Outside of Russia as
belonging to itself, for only it, and no other, is the "sole legal
heir to the property of the pre-Revolutionary Church," which,
consequently, "is being held by the schismatics abroad illegally,"
and that such a decision "is accepted by the Orthodox believing
people of Russia with joy and profound gratitude.""
What is the reason why Father Peter Kholodny, explicitly named as
the "ROCOR's treasurer" went to Moscow at such an early stage of the
union's process? One would have expected that the Synod's treasurer
would have had nothing to discuss with the MP, unless financial
matters were on the agenda.
DELEGATION OF THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH OUTSIDE OF RUSSIA VISITS
A delegation of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia
consisting of Archbishop Mark of Berlin and Germany, Archbishop
Hilarion of Sydney, Australia and New Zealand, Bishop Kyrill of San
Francisco and Western America, Archpriest Nikolai Artemoff, secretary
of the German diocese and Archpriest Peter Holodny, treasurer of the
Synod of Bishops, arrived in Moscow on 17 November 2003 at the
invitation of the Russian Orthodox Church-Moscow Patriarchate.
Press-release, November 19. 2003
We have no animosity towards Father Peter, on the contrary. Some of
the French ROCOR (V) faithful recall that Father Peter Kholodny, who
was spending his holidays in Cannes in June 2001, kindly attended at
that time with the ROCOR (V) faithful, the liturgy celebrated by Vl
Varnava, just after the latter had left the Synod (L).
Please do not see here any "desire merely to enhance the fortunes of
ROCiE, and to hurt ROCOR, no matter by what means", but just the wish
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Fr. John R. Shaw"
> Elena Baranova wrote:between
> > > If one reads Russian news articles on the proposed union
> > ROCOR and MP, including MP and orthodox publications, theiremphasis
> > on ROCOR assets, number of parishes and ROCOR cash flow.
> JRS: Just to show what nonsense such claims are, the Church Abroad
> been very hard-pressed for funds now for a long time.problem
> The main reason for this, is that people donate so little to the
> The recent influx of new people from Russia has not helped the
> at all, since many of them suppose that in America, the Church isyour
> supported by the goverment, or that "the Church is wealthy", as
> own comments seem to suggest.ROCOR!
> My impression, in fact, is that the Patriarchal parishes outside of
> Russia are much more affluent today, than most of the parishes of
> The only purpose in making such absurd claims, would be to cause as
> much doubt and murmuring among our people as possible: and this, in
> turn, shows total lack of regard for the welfare of the Church and
> faithful in general;
> In Christ
> Fr. John R. Shaw
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