After breifly reading your e-mailings, it
strock me that one of the reasons i did not join your
group. I for one do not make enough money to
communicate or facilatate online on a daily basis.
Therefore, one underlieing problems that may inhibit
youre endevor might be the exspence of the use of
infrmational services on line.(not to metion my lousy
So, with that i say if there was a binefit to from
the use of informational services, and/or it were less
exspencive. there would be more communitions amoung
frineds or strangers abroad.
Thanks for the time,
--- Debbie Baker <deb@...
> I agree with John and have a friend who has created
> conversation amongst her
> family using email if not, unwittingly, online
> Anyway, I've forwarded Ira's request to her to see
> how she might support the
> conversation and have cc'd her above.
> I'm glad to be part of this.
> In peace,
> Debbie Baker
> By 2022, all people consciously choosing their
> lives. All people being
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John D. Smith"
> To: <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 9:55 AM
> Subject: [of] Re: Introduction - Ira Zukerman
> > Ira,
> > I remember a conversation with a client a couple
> years ago where I was
> > trying to convince them that "growing" the online
> facilitation capacity
> > they
> > already had was a better strategy than "importing"
> it. We went around the
> > room and each person talked about how they'd used
> technology to
> > communicate.
> > We spent a bit of time talking over the example of
> a woman who'd organized
> > a
> > large family reunion. She had developed a lot of
> facilitation skills that
> > somehow were eluding this client organization. It
> turned out all her
> > skills
> > didn't help because she was at the wrong rung of a
> very hierarchical
> > organization. :-(
> > It strikes me that using a family reunion as the
> occasion for getting
> > people
> > talking with each other might be a useful strategy
> to consider. While
> > haggling about the venue or the location, all
> kinds of interesting
> > tangents
> > might be plucked and turned into the conversations
> you want.
> > So I guess I'm suggesting that thinking of the
> online part as "separate"
> > or
> > as a world in itself leads to some problems, and
> that brining the rest of
> > our lives into it offers some real possibilities.
> Make any sense?
> > John
> > *
> > * John D. Smith - John.Smith@...
> V: 503.963.8229
> > * CoP Foundations workshop starts Oct 3:
> > * "In our every deliberation, we must consider the
> impact of our
> > * decisions on the next seven generations." --
> Iroquois Nation Maxim
> > Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 19:52:13 -0400
> > From: "Ira Zukerman"
> > Subject: Re: Introduction - Ira Zukerman
> > Hi, Nancy, thanks for responding.
> > You write: "What kinds of information are they
> interested in?.."
> > Perhaps that's the million dollar question.
> > Also, just to review some of the details...though
> we're potentially in
> > excess of 500, as an "opt in" only group within
> our family, right now we
> > are
> > at 2 dozen only. And...these are the more
> interested ones. But...what
> > are
> > they interested in, indeed!
> > So far, and based on the past week, no addional
> pictures were added to the
> > pictures database beyond the 8 I contributed.
> Also, one of my cousins did
> > post one of her periodic set of jokes which she
> sends to me and a selected
> > group of others. They were numbered, 1 - 19, and
> I decided to forward it
> > to
> > the list. I offered as to which my favorite one
> was, invited them to do
> > the
> > same, and see if, by number, we couldn't break
> 100. So far, three
> > responses, and each to me personally. The third
> went on to document her
> > feeling unsure how to post to the list, and I took
> it as an opportunity to
> > coach all in response.
> > As to your other questions: "What do you want
> people to get out of their
> > participation? (value)"
> > The general idea is that...such as we can do in
> this environment...we get
> > to
> > know each other better
> > and to: "What do you want them to do? (action)"
> > I suppose the idea is that...for happenstances
> that visit our members
> > lives,
> > they might consider sharing these, in some
> measure. As the previous
> > example, the introduction of a good joke could be
> high on the list. Also,
> > sharing the benefit of an unexpected pleasure is
> another thing that could
> > be
> > shared. For example, our reunion was in
> Chicago..my family travelled to
> > it
> > from the DC area...and saw some live theatre,
> which we enjoyed
> > tremendously.
> > So, consistent with this...certainly a post
> concerning this by us might be
> > one thing we could do.
> > I have some sense that there may be a custom to
> ask individuals in a
> > venture
> > like this...much as I was asked to do...to post an
> introduction to the
> > list.
> > Perhaps I could ask our own members to do this.
> Somehow, though, I might
> > prefer to do it with a twist.
> > Ours is an extended family...as you can imagine.
> Although the sense of
> > intimacy we have amongst each other is belied by
> our actual lack of
> > substantive knowledge about each other...at the
> same time...our actual
> > blood
> > connection with each other does stand for
> something on its own. So...I am
> > reluctant to try to make some more intellectual
> offering stand in for
> > that.
> > With our family association, we do have something
> special. The hope is to
> > ignite something that could somehow come out of
> that, rather than gin
> > something up, per se.
> > Asking members to say something about who they are
> as a Rivke is one idea
> > for prompting...(the club is named after Rivke, a
> cousin from many
> > generations ago, who fell into ill health, and for
> whom the family....some
> > 95 years ago...determined to band together in
> order that another calamity
> > of
> > such a significant measure would not again go
> > Any others ideas are of course, welcome.
> > Regards,
> > Ira Z.
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