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  • Valdis Krebs
    This article on the USA Today front page -- Thursday May 11th -- mentioned social network analysis .
    Message 1 of 15 , May 13 8:26 PM
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      This article on the USA Today front page -- Thursday May 11th --
      mentioned "social network analysis".

      http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm

      That article got other papers scrambling to cover the story.

      From the Friday May 12th Philadelphia Inquirer...

      http://www.orgnet.com/PA_PI.pdf

      Valdis
    • Bordeaux, John
      Valdis, Interesting, Actually I was a bit miffed to see the term used this way. Kept get trying people to say pattern analysis, or even network science.
      Message 2 of 15 , May 14 6:18 AM
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        Valdis,

        Interesting, Actually I was a bit miffed to see the term used this way. Kept get trying people to say "pattern analysis," or even "network science." Do you see a risk in having ONA being associated with this story? Or is any word-of-mouth good word-of-mouth? Data mining used to have be an emotion-free term as well... (We've moved to to "business intelligence.")

        jb

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        From: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Valdis Krebs
        Sent: Sat 5/13/2006 11:26 PM
        To: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [ona-prac] SNA/ONA on front page... two days in a row!


        This article on the USA Today front page -- Thursday May 11th --
        mentioned "social network analysis".

        http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm

        That article got other papers scrambling to cover the story.

        From the Friday May 12th Philadelphia Inquirer...

        http://www.orgnet.com/PA_PI.pdf

        Valdis




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      • Valdis Krebs
        Well, ONA may not be associated with the NSA, but SNA definitely will be. Right after 9/11 all of the intelligence agencies became very interested in SNA.
        Message 3 of 15 , May 14 9:17 AM
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          Well, ONA may not be associated with the NSA, but SNA definitely will
          be. Right after 9/11 all of the intelligence agencies became very
          interested in SNA. They invited many SNA experts to Wash DC for
          various conferences and working meetings to pick our brains. Several
          SNA academics currently work with various govt agnecies doing this type
          of work. I do not, though clients of mine who have licensed InFlow may
          be doing such work.

          If used properly, SNA can be a useful tool in catching and prosecuting
          the bad guys. It is NOT a magic bullet and a fix-all solution!
          Unfortunately, many new vendors have popped up making this claim.

          Valdis

          On May 14, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Bordeaux, John wrote:

          > Valdis,
          >
          > Interesting, Actually I was a bit miffed to see the term used this
          > way. Kept get trying people to say "pattern analysis," or even
          > "network science." Do you see a risk in having ONA being associated
          > with this story? Or is any word-of-mouth good word-of-mouth? Data
          > mining used to have be an emotion-free term as well... (We've moved to
          > to "business intelligence.")
          >
          > jb
          >
          > ________________________________
          >
          > From: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Valdis Krebs
          > Sent: Sat 5/13/2006 11:26 PM
          > To: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: [ona-prac] SNA/ONA on front page... two days in a row!
          >
          >
          > This article on the USA Today front page -- Thursday May 11th --
          > mentioned "social network analysis".
          >
          > http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm
          >
          > That article got other papers scrambling to cover the story.
          >
          > From the Friday May 12th Philadelphia Inquirer...
          >
          > http://www.orgnet.com/PA_PI.pdf
          >
          > Valdis
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          > l+business+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.sig=MbX
          > POaYsE7clwusosS699g> Social network
          > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
          > t=ms&k=Social+network&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w3=Small+b
          > usiness+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.sig=cPVMXJ
          > RV4UamA7FYfvb4iQ> Small business finance
          > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
          > t=ms&k=Small+business+finance&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w3
          > =Small+business+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.si
          > g=qX_iFLyKzJGEWUUftRptDw>
          > Business degree finance
          > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
          > t=ms&k=Business+degree+finance&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w
          > 3=Small+business+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.s
          > ig=HOlNyxMXBjVtKytcM8z0Jw> Sna
          > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
          > t=ms&k=Sna&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w3=Small+business+fin
          > ance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.sig=tt6DtMghRfSZib8fk
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        • Kathleen Marvin
          Do you think they re using SNA to go through all those phone numbers they ve collected? That was my first thought when I heard about it. -Kathleen ... From:
          Message 4 of 15 , May 14 9:46 AM
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            Do you think they're using SNA to go through all those phone numbers they've collected? That was my first thought when I heard about it.
             
            -Kathleen
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:17 AM
            Subject: Re: [ona-prac] SNA/ONA on front page... two days in a row!

            Well, ONA may not be associated with the NSA, but SNA definitely will 
            be.  Right after 9/11 all of the intelligence agencies became very 
            interested in SNA.  They invited many SNA experts to Wash DC for 
            various conferences and working meetings to pick our brains.  Several 
            SNA academics currently work with various govt agnecies doing this type 
            of work.  I do not, though clients of mine who have licensed InFlow may 
            be doing such work.

            If used properly, SNA can be a useful tool in catching and prosecuting 
            the bad guys.  It is NOT a magic bullet and a fix-all solution!  
            Unfortunately, many new vendors have popped up making this claim.

            Valdis

            On May 14, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Bordeaux, John wrote:

            > Valdis,
            >
            > Interesting, Actually I was a bit miffed to see the term used this 
            > way.  Kept get trying people to say "pattern analysis," or even 
            > "network science."  Do you see a risk in having ONA being associated 
            > with this story?  Or is any word-of-mouth good word-of-mouth?   Data 
            > mining used to have be an emotion-free term as well... (We've moved to 
            > to "business intelligence.")
            >
            > jb
            >
            > ________________________________
            >
            > From: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Valdis Krebs
            > Sent: Sat 5/13/2006 11:26 PM
            > To: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: [ona-prac] SNA/ONA on front page... two days in a row!
            >
            >
            > This article on the USA Today front page -- Thursday May 11th  --
            > mentioned "social network analysis".
            >
            > http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm
            >
            > That article got other papers scrambling to cover the story.
            >
            > From the Friday May 12th Philadelphia Inquirer...
            >
            > http://www.orgnet.com/PA_PI.pdf
            >
            > Valdis
            >
            >
            >
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            > POaYsE7clwusosS699g>        Social network 
            > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
            > t=ms&k=Social+network&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w3=Small+b
            > usiness+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.sig=cPVMXJ
            > RV4UamA7FYfvb4iQ>        Small business finance 
            > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
            > t=ms&k=Small+business+finance&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w3
            > =Small+business+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.si
            > g=qX_iFLyKzJGEWUUftRptDw>       
            > Business degree finance 
            > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
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            > 3=Small+business+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.s
            > ig=HOlNyxMXBjVtKytcM8z0Jw>        Sna 
            > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
            > t=ms&k=Sna&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w3=Small+business+fin
            > ance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.sig=tt6DtMghRfSZib8fk
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          • Valdis Krebs
            Message 5 of 15 , May 14 10:06 AM
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              On May 14, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Kathleen Marvin wrote:

              > Do you think they're using SNA to go through all those phone numbers
              > they've collected? That was my first thought when I heard about it.
              >  
              > -Kathleen
              >> ----- Original Message -----
              >> From: Valdis Krebs
              >> To: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com
              >> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:17 AM
              >> Subject: Re: [ona-prac] SNA/ONA on front page... two days in a row!
              >>
              >> Well, ONA may not be associated with the NSA, but SNA definitely will 
              >> be.  Right after 9/11 all of the intelligence agencies became very 
              >> interested in SNA.  They invited many SNA experts to Wash DC for 
              >> various conferences and working meetings to pick our brains.  Several 
              >> SNA academics currently work with various govt agnecies doing this
              >> type 
              >> of work.  I do not, though clients of mine who have licensed InFlow
              >> may 
              >> be doing such work.
              >>
              >> If used properly, SNA can be a useful tool in catching and
              >> prosecuting 
              >> the bad guys.  It is NOT a magic bullet and a fix-all solution!  
              >> Unfortunately, many new vendors have popped up making this claim.
              >>
              >> Valdis
              >>
              >> On May 14, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Bordeaux, John wrote:
              >>
              >> > Valdis,
              >> >
              >> > Interesting, Actually I was a bit miffed to see the term used this 
              >> > way.  Kept get trying people to say "pattern analysis," or even 
              >> > "network science."  Do you see a risk in having ONA being
              >> associated 
              >> > with this story?  Or is any word-of-mouth good word-of-mouth?  
              >> Data 
              >> > mining used to have be an emotion-free term as well... (We've moved
              >> to 
              >> > to "business intelligence.")
              >> >
              >> > jb
              >> >
              >> > ________________________________
              >> >
              >> > From: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Valdis Krebs
              >> > Sent: Sat 5/13/2006 11:26 PM
              >> > To: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com
              >> > Subject: [ona-prac] SNA/ONA on front page... two days in a row!
              >> >
              >> >
              >> > This article on the USA Today front page -- Thursday May 11th  --
              >> > mentioned "social network analysis".
              >> >
              >> > http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm
              >> >
              >> > That article got other papers scrambling to cover the story.
              >> >
              >> > From the Friday May 12th Philadelphia Inquirer...
              >> >
              >> > http://www.orgnet.com/PA_PI.pdf
              >> >
              >> > Valdis
              >> >
              >> >
              >> >
              >> >
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              >> l
              >> >
              >> l+business+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.sig=Mb
              >> X
              >> > POaYsE7clwusosS699g>        Social network 
              >> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
              >> >
              >> t=ms&k=Social+network&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w3=Small+
              >> b
              >> >
              >> usiness+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.sig=cPVMX
              >> J
              >> > RV4UamA7FYfvb4iQ>        Small business finance 
              >> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
              >> >
              >> t=ms&k=Small+business+finance&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w
              >> 3
              >> >
              >> =Small+business+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.s
              >> i
              >> > g=qX_iFLyKzJGEWUUftRptDw>       
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              >> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
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              >> t=ms&k=Business+degree+finance&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&
              >> w
              >> >
              >> 3=Small+business+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.
              >> s
              >> > ig=HOlNyxMXBjVtKytcM8z0Jw>        Sna 
              >> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
              >> >
              >> t=ms&k=Sna&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w3=Small+business+fi
              >> n
              >> >
              >> ance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.sig=tt6DtMghRfSZib8f
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            • Valdis Krebs
              Since I do not work with them I do not know. But, that is what the USA Today article claimed. I don t think that is a very effective approach, just looking
              Message 6 of 15 , May 14 10:23 AM
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                Since I do not work with them I do not know. But, that is what the USA
                Today article claimed. I don't think that is a very effective
                approach, just looking at all of the links -- they are only phone to
                phone links, supposedly the names associated with the phone are not
                with the data. Yet, we all know how easy it is to associate new tables
                of data with existing tables of data, you just need to join them on a
                common key -- phone number.

                Here is an on-line debate that I got involved in... you may want to add
                your two cents... or just enjoy the various views.
                http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002399.html
                http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002402.html

                Valdis




                On May 14, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Kathleen Marvin wrote:

                > Do you think they're using SNA to go through all those phone numbers
                > they've collected? That was my first thought when I heard about it.
                >  
                > -Kathleen
                >> ----- Original Message -----
                >> From: Valdis Krebs
                >> To: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com
                >> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:17 AM
                >> Subject: Re: [ona-prac] SNA/ONA on front page... two days in a row!
                >>
                >> Well, ONA may not be associated with the NSA, but SNA definitely will 
                >> be.  Right after 9/11 all of the intelligence agencies became very 
                >> interested in SNA.  They invited many SNA experts to Wash DC for 
                >> various conferences and working meetings to pick our brains.  Several 
                >> SNA academics currently work with various govt agnecies doing this
                >> type 
                >> of work.  I do not, though clients of mine who have licensed InFlow
                >> may 
                >> be doing such work.
                >>
                >> If used properly, SNA can be a useful tool in catching and
                >> prosecuting 
                >> the bad guys.  It is NOT a magic bullet and a fix-all solution!  
                >> Unfortunately, many new vendors have popped up making this claim.
                >>
                >> Valdis
                >>
                >> On May 14, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Bordeaux, John wrote:
                >>
                >> > Valdis,
                >> >
                >> > Interesting, Actually I was a bit miffed to see the term used this 
                >> > way.  Kept get trying people to say "pattern analysis," or even 
                >> > "network science."  Do you see a risk in having ONA being
                >> associated 
                >> > with this story?  Or is any word-of-mouth good word-of-mouth?  
                >> Data 
                >> > mining used to have be an emotion-free term as well... (We've moved
                >> to 
                >> > to "business intelligence.")
                >> >
                >> > jb
                >> >
                >> > ________________________________
                >> >
                >> > From: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Valdis Krebs
                >> > Sent: Sat 5/13/2006 11:26 PM
                >> > To: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com
                >> > Subject: [ona-prac] SNA/ONA on front page... two days in a row!
                >> >
                >> >
                >> > This article on the USA Today front page -- Thursday May 11th  --
                >> > mentioned "social network analysis".
                >> >
                >> > http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm
                >> >
                >> > That article got other papers scrambling to cover the story.
                >> >
                >> > From the Friday May 12th Philadelphia Inquirer...
                >> >
                >> > http://www.orgnet.com/PA_PI.pdf
                >> >
                >> > Valdis
                >> >
                >> >
                >> >
                >> >
                >> > SPONSORED LINKS
                >> > Business finances 
                >> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
                >> >
                >> t=ms&k=Business+finances&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w3=Sma
                >> l
                >> >
                >> l+business+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.sig=Mb
                >> X
                >> > POaYsE7clwusosS699g>        Social network 
                >> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
                >> >
                >> t=ms&k=Social+network&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w3=Small+
                >> b
                >> >
                >> usiness+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.sig=cPVMX
                >> J
                >> > RV4UamA7FYfvb4iQ>        Small business finance 
                >> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
                >> >
                >> t=ms&k=Small+business+finance&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w
                >> 3
                >> >
                >> =Small+business+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.s
                >> i
                >> > g=qX_iFLyKzJGEWUUftRptDw>       
                >> > Business degree finance 
                >> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
                >> >
                >> t=ms&k=Business+degree+finance&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&
                >> w
                >> >
                >> 3=Small+business+finance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.
                >> s
                >> > ig=HOlNyxMXBjVtKytcM8z0Jw>        Sna 
                >> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
                >> >
                >> t=ms&k=Sna&w1=Business+finances&w2=Social+network&w3=Small+business+fi
                >> n
                >> >
                >> ance&w4=Business+degree+finance&w5=Sna&c=5&s=109&.sig=tt6DtMghRfSZib8f
                >> k
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              • Kathleen Marvin
                The phone numbers may not be the only info they have - it may just be the only info we have thus far discovered that they have....... -Kathleen ... From:
                Message 7 of 15 , May 14 12:01 PM
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                  The phone numbers may not be the only info they have - it may just be the only info we have thus far discovered that they have.......
                   
                  -Kathleen
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 9:23 AM
                  Subject: Re: [ona-prac] SNA/ONA on front page... two days in a row!

                  Since I do not work with them I do not know. But, that is what the USA Today article claimed. I don't think that is a very effective approach, just looking at all of the links -- they are only phone to phone links, supposedly the names associated with the phone are not with the data. Yet, we all know how easy it is to associate new tables of data with existing tables of data, you just need to join them on a common key -- phone number.

                  Here is an on-line debate that I got involved in... you may want to add your two cents... or just enjoy the various views.
                  http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002399.html
                  http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002402.html

                  Valdis




                  On May 14, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Kathleen Marvin wrote:

                  Do you think they're using SNA to go through all those phone numbers they've collected? That was my first thought when I heard about it.
                   
                  -Kathleen
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: Valdis Krebs
                  To: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:17 AM
                  Subject: Re: [ona-prac] SNA/ONA on front page... two days in a row!

                  Well, ONA may not be associated with the NSA, but SNA definitely will 
                  be.  Right after 9/11 all of the intelligence agencies became very 
                  interested in SNA.  They invited many SNA experts to Wash DC for 
                  various conferences and working meetings to pick our brains.  Several 
                  SNA academics currently work with various govt agnecies doing this type 
                  of work.  I do not, though clients of mine who have licensed InFlow may 
                  be doing such work.

                  If used properly, SNA can be a useful tool in catching and prosecuting 
                  the bad guys.  It is NOT a magic bullet and a fix-all solution!  
                  Unfortunately, many new vendors have popped up making this claim.

                  Valdis

                  On May 14, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Bordeaux, John wrote:

                  > Valdis,
                  >
                  > Interesting, Actually I was a bit miffed to see the term used this 
                  > way.  Kept get trying people to say "pattern analysis," or even 
                  > "network science."  Do you see a risk in having ONA being associated 
                  > with this story?  Or is any word-of-mouth good word-of-mouth?   Data 
                  > mining used to have be an emotion-free term as well... (We've moved to 
                  > to "business intelligence.")
                  >
                  > jb
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                  > Sent: Sat 5/13/2006 11:26 PM
                  > To: ona-prac@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: [ona-prac] SNA/ONA on front page... two days in a row!
                  >
                  >
                  > This article on the USA Today front page -- Thursday May 11th  --
                  > mentioned "social network analysis".
                  >
                  > http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm
                  >
                  > That article got other papers scrambling to cover the story.
                  >
                  > From the Friday May 12th Philadelphia Inquirer...
                  >
                  > http://www.orgnet.com/PA_PI.pdf
                  >
                  > Valdis
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                • Valdis Krebs
                  Here is a story from this week s Business Week of how a major university soccer team answered some of these questions and the won the NCAA Division I
                  Message 8 of 15 , Aug 11, 2006
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                    Here is a story from this week's Business Week of how a major
                    university soccer team answered some of these questions and the won the
                    NCAA Division I Championship!  ... correlation not causation, ;-)

                    Here is my blog about it, with the link to the BW article...

                    http://www.networkweaving.com/blog/2006/08/weaving-team-nets.html

                    Enjoy!

                    Valdis
                  • Valdis Krebs
                    So, who is going to compose the first Centrality Sonata? or Clique Concerto? or Overlap Overture? or... We need an Audio/Music track at the next Sunbelt!
                    Message 9 of 15 , Oct 4, 2010
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                      So, who is going to compose the first Centrality Sonata? or Clique Concerto? or Overlap Overture? or...

                      We need an Audio/Music track at the next Sunbelt!

                      http://bit.ly/cLHOts [YouTube] ...

                      Enjoy!

                      Valdis Krebs
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