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Re: [olivia] Re: Olivia on 160M

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  • Thomas Giella KN4LF
    Yes! 73, Thomas, KN4LF ... From: Shabsigh To: oliviadata@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [olivia] Re: Olivia on 160M
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      Yes!
       
      73,
      Thomas, KN4LF
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Shabsigh
      Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:45 PM
      Subject: Re: [olivia] Re: Olivia on 160M

      Right Thomas;
       
      Monday morning 0400 Z OK??
       
      Omar, YK1AO
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:10 PM
      Subject: [olivia] Re: Olivia on 160M

      Hi Omar,
       
      I won't be on tonight as I will be attending a new years party. Yes starting with PSK31 would be a good idea, also meeting in the ON4SKT chat room at http://www.on4kst.info/chat/login.php?band=4 .
       
      73 & Happy New Year,
      Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF
      Lakeland, FL, USA
      Grid Square EL97AW
      27 57 26.5 N 81 56 46.6 W
      kn4lf@...
       
      KN4LF Amateur & SWL Radio History: http://www.kn4lf.com
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 5:24 AM
      Subject: Re: [olivia] Re: Olivia on 160M

      Thomas;
       
      See you tomorrow. I have an idea. Why don't we start at 0400 with PSK31 and then try Olivia or MT63
       
      73
       
      Omar
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 6:20 AM
      Subject: Re: [olivia] Re: Olivia on 160M

      Omar okay I'm on 1838.500 submode 500/16 calling you every 2 minutes.
       
      73,
      Thomas, KN4LF
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Shabsigh
      Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 11:03 PM
      Subject: Fw: [olivia] Re: Olivia on 160M

      Sorry Thomas, It should be 0400 Z.
      I am there now .
       
      YK1AO
       
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Shabsigh
      Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:48 PM
      Subject: Re: [olivia] Re: Olivia on 160M

      Dear Thomas;
       
      I'll be there again tomorrow at 0430 Z.
       
      I fully agree with your notes about QRM. However I have an idea which I would like to see discussed.
       
      Because of the peculiarities of propagation on 160 meters, I think it should be kept only for quick QSO's , which whether are being conducted for the DXCC or anything else, are actually investigating, as an end result, the propagation of 160 meters.
       
      So my suggestion is to eliminate rag chewing in any mode on 160. It is a very precious time-limited band. And most important, let's be courteous with each other.
       
      73 de
       
      Omar YK1AO
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:42 PM
      Subject: [olivia] Re: Olivia on 160M

      Yes the 1837-1841 kc window is for digital "DX" QSO's only not for rag chewing. I was trampled on last night while trying to make contact with YK1AO by two hams that fired up for a rag chew on Olivia on 1838.500 kc, ending my attempted QSO with Omar. They then QSY'ed to 1845 kc in the phone DX window for a rag chew which is another bad idea.
       
      This type of digital operation with reckless abandon will bring out the wrath of phone and CW ops upon us and we will all suffer intentional QRM from them in retaliation. The ARRL band plan calls for digital operations to stay between 1800-1810 kc only for rag chewing. I've suffered intentional interference between 1800-1810 kc on digital operations for three years because some of the CW operators just don't want us to operate below 1843 kc! Unfortunately we have to be more than good neighbors to coexist with the intolerant operators on the other modes.
       
      BTW I copied N5TQG, W7TVF, KC0FP, KB2SDR and an N7?? (can't remember) last night . All were 100% print here in Florida through +40 over S9 lightning QRN.
       
      However I'm beginning to suspect that the failed DX QSO attempts between myself and K7RE with DL8LE and YK1AO on Olivia may be due to insurmountable propagation effects that 160 suffers from on the long haul. On 160 meters the polarization is elliptical and may not be compatible with Olivia on the long haul.
       
      For those interested I have a MF propagation theory website on the internet at http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf8.htm .
       
      73 & Happy New Year,
      Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF
      Lakeland, FL, USA
      Grid Square EL97AW
      27 57 26.5 N 81 56 46.6 W
      kn4lf@...
       
      KN4LF Amateur & SWL Radio History: http://www.kn4lf.com
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:05 AM
      Subject: [olivia] RE: Olivia on 160M

      Folks:

        I was able to monitor  KN4LF last night here in extreme western SD,
      100% print all the way.  I didn't call, as I didn't want to mess up any
      chance for his DX QSO to take place.  Afterwards I called CQ only once,
      and would up having QSO's with KS (KC0FCP), NV (W7TVF) and even a local
      one in SD (KB2SDR)!  The night before I had a few PSK QSO's as well,
      when I could find no one on Olivia.  NO DX, but my point is that if one
      gets on at around 0400Z, QSO's are bound to be available.  I have a
      schedule tonight at 0400Z 1838.0 with KN3A at 500/16. I usually run 100W
      with an AMP, MixW, and a 45 foot tall top loaded vertical.  I would like
      to encourage folks to get on  and give Olivia 160M a try!  Please be
      careful to avoid the frequencies where OLIVIA DX QSO's are attempting to
      work each other though.

      Brian K7RE


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