Hey, Doc Heyman I have been doing something very similar. I converted all of our cds to digital and have large collection in play lists. I also converted all of the pictures collected over life time, have them on my screen saver. What an interesting time we are fortunate to live in. As far as copy write, I think they all become public property after fifty years and can be used without permission form the author. Correct me if I am wrong.
Dr Hank Heyman <drhankh@...
> wrote: Yesterday, Dan asked:
> Besides the three sites cited above, many audio books are copied
> and posted on usenet. These are ripped from copies purchased
> or in some cases borrowed from libraries.
"You aren't endorsing piracy are you?"
Primarily I mentioned this because I was attempting the argue
that there are a number of sources for free audio books, and
there are also several sources for relatively inexpensive ones.
So to me, audiobooksforfree is competing against a multitude
of sources for my entertainment attention and many of them
seem more appealing.
As you seem to agree, when you wrote, "Honestly when it comes to ABFF
they tend to be my last resort if I can't find a certain book elsewhere."
I first became acquainted with the availability of binary content
on usenet when I was invited to join a Yahoo group for comic books.
After joining, I found the owner was sharing scans of old comics,
mostly science fiction oriented DC titles that were some four
decades old, such as The Flash, Green Lantern and Mystery in Space.
As nostalgia, it was great to see these old books with such fond
memories and to have them in my computer!
The group, Just_DCU, disappeared under mysterious circumstances,
but based on what the owner had told me, I embarked on a 'secret
project' and discovered usenet and their world of scanning and
While it did appear that there was probably some infringment
of copyright, it seemed like a sensible effort of fans to
develop a large, distributed electronic library, which made
hard to find material more readily available. Most of these
comics aren't reprinted or available at most libraries.
For some time now, I've been downloading scans of comics books,
and got accustomed to it, with a liberal interpretation of
the fair use doctrine.
These aren't exact copies, but they are readable.
Earlier this year, I came across a message which mentioned
the availability of Star Wars music at another group,
and then I learned of a group where soundtrack music was
At least some of the music I downloaded was music that I had
already purchased (just as many of the comics scans were for
ones that I had previously purchased the comics themselves),
but for which I didn't have copies that I could play using
the computer, e.g., copies on vinyl or cassette.
To me, there didn't seem to be any harm in my downloading
whatever might be posted, since none of it was anything
I had been planning to purchase.
(And based on the amount of material that I've seen posted
over several months, I doubt anyone could afford to purchase
ALL of it.)
It was around this time that I finally took the plunge
and learned to rip my own CDs, load them onto my computer,
create playlists and have the computer as my own virtual
radio station. I must say, this was something of a revolution
for me, and that led to me no longer playing the original
CDs or cassettes.
I'm not adverse to paying for digital content. I have
downloaded music from a paid service, eMusic, and purchased
music and audio books (and regular books) on Amazon.com,
eBay and elsewhere.
However, I did eventually discover groups which posted
audio books, and what can I say? It seemed too tempted
not to occasionally download something that looked
As you may know, the Writers Guild is currently on strike
and one of the issues is that they want royalties on
content distributed over the Internet,
Personally I'd like to see an overhaul of the copyright
laws so that everything is more equitable.
As one member mentioned, they were able to 'borrow'
an audio book from a library via digital download.
If it was on one device, it was lost after an expiration
period, while on another device, it stayed.
People can and do borrow and read or listen to items
for free and that includes libraries and friends.
In this new age, it's so much easier for people to copy
I'd much rather pay for a legitimate copy, which is why
I subscribed to eMusic and alternatively have ordered
through Amazon.com and eBay.
If the distribution is done right (for example many TV
shows can be viewed via the Internet for free), people
will buy the content or make donations.
Usenet is an excellent resource, but it's not like
eMusic or Amazon, where you can look on a web site
for whatever you are trying to find. When people
can find what they actually want at a great price,
then they will buy.
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