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  • peezahj
    Technology isn t the issue, you re comparing the samples used in the synths & Alesis has always had great drum samples. -Eric Dahlberg ... (in ... demo ...
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      Technology isn't the issue, you're comparing the samples used in the
      synths & Alesis has always had great drum samples.

      -Eric Dahlberg


      --- In oasys-pci@y..., "lcouri" <lcouri@y...> wrote:
      > I don't know a lot about midi. I use the OASYS as an effects unit
      (in
      > my Mac, with Pro Tools), as well as source for one shots (drums) in
      > audio recording. Now I've only been able to find two kits in the
      demo
      > multi sections ... is there anything more? Additionally, does it
      make
      > sense that my Alesis Quadrasynth plus Piano would have better drum
      > hits? These two are light years apart in technological age ... I
      > suspect I'm not accessing my OASYS right. Any feedback would be
      > helpful.
    • z_chromozone
      OASYS has quite a few drum samples. look in the Korg Triton Drums PCM folde, there should be about 6 kits. The OASYS has a few as well. Press F12 and have
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        OASYS has quite a few drum samples. look in the Korg Triton Drums PCM
        folde, there should be about 6 kits. The OASYS has a few as
        well. Press F12 and have a look through the drum and precussion
        folders.

        Z.





        --- In oasys-pci@y..., "lcouri" <lcouri@y...> wrote:
        > I don't know a lot about midi. I use the OASYS as an effects unit
        (in
        > my Mac, with Pro Tools), as well as source for one shots (drums) in
        > audio recording. Now I've only been able to find two kits in the
        demo
        > multi sections ... is there anything more? Additionally, does it
        make
        > sense that my Alesis Quadrasynth plus Piano would have better drum
        > hits? These two are light years apart in technological age ... I
        > suspect I'm not accessing my OASYS right. Any feedback would be
        > helpful.
      • Elmar Kurgpold
        Don t forget to look through the Korg Slice programs. There are a ton of interesting programs in there, which are basically drum loops that have been sliced
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          Don't forget to look through the Korg Slice programs. There are a
          ton of interesting programs in there, which are basically drum loops
          that have been sliced up and assigned to notes. I think the way they
          are numbered, for example "Groove01-85", indicates the original tempo
          of the loop (in this case, 85).

          ++Elmar

          >OASYS has quite a few drum samples. look in the Korg Triton Drums PCM
          >folde, there should be about 6 kits. The OASYS has a few as
          >well. Press F12 and have a look through the drum and precussion
          >folders.
          >
          >Z.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >--- In oasys-pci@y..., "lcouri" <lcouri@y...> wrote:
          >> I don't know a lot about midi. I use the OASYS as an effects unit
          >(in
          >> my Mac, with Pro Tools), as well as source for one shots (drums) in
          >> audio recording. Now I've only been able to find two kits in the
          >demo
          >> multi sections ... is there anything more? Additionally, does it
          >make
          >> sense that my Alesis Quadrasynth plus Piano would have better drum
          >> hits? These two are light years apart in technological age ... I
          >> suspect I'm not accessing my OASYS right. Any feedback would be
          >> helpful.
          >
          >
          >
          >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
          >
          >Contacting Korg Technical Support
          >
          >Korg's world-wide network of Korg Distributors is ready, willing,
          >and able to handle all technical support questions. For information
          >on contacting their tech support departments, see the OASYS PCI FAQ:
          >
          >http://www.korg.com/oasys_pci_faq_html/oasys_pci_tech_support.htm
          >
          >This mailing list, however, is not a forum for technical support.
          >
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          >note that these are not technical support personnel. Much as they
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        • TRACE
          ... Also for under $100.00 you can get any drum Sample library and load these samples into the Oasys. I know that many Sample CD s come with AIFF or WAV.
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            --- z_chromozone <stephen.carlisle@...> wrote:
            > OASYS has quite a few drum samples. look in the Korg Triton Drums PCM
            > folde, there should be about 6 kits. The OASYS has a few as
            > well. Press F12 and have a look through the drum and precussion
            > folders.

            Also for under $100.00 you can get any drum Sample library and load these samples
            into the Oasys. I know that many Sample CD's come with AIFF or WAV. files on the
            CD. I picked up quite a good amount of Free Samples from the Internet. Just do
            a search for Free Samples.

            TRACE :)

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          • Brian Offermann
            ... Don t just look in the Demo Multis Folder. There s lots more to OASYS than that folder. The Demo Multi s folder is mainly a technology showcase
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              > I don't know a lot about midi. I use the OASYS as an effects unit (in
              > my Mac, with Pro Tools), as well as source for one shots (drums) in
              > audio recording. Now I've only been able to find two kits in the demo
              > multi sections ... is there anything more?

              Don't just look in the Demo Multis Folder. There's lots more to OASYS
              than that folder. The Demo Multi's folder is mainly a technology showcase
              (something that dealers would use to demo the card). The OASYS version
              of a built-in demo song, if you will. There are more premade multis in
              the OASYS PCI Folder, BTW.

              > Additionally, does it make
              > sense that my Alesis Quadrasynth plus Piano would have better drum
              > hits? These two are light years apart in technological age ... I
              > suspect I'm not accessing my OASYS right. Any feedback would be
              > helpful.
              >

              Do you have the Oasys OS Update? Most cards came with 1.0 on cd.
              2.0.x is available on Korgs website. It adds 24bit sample playback and
              tons
              of Triton-based samples (including 4 or 5 full drumkits of various flavors)
              .
              And the samplers support AIFF/WAV/SDII sound formats, so you can
              add your own drum samples if the included kits don't satisfy (I'm sure
              they will).

              It's a long download, but well worth it. Korg will also send you a cd if
              you ask. Contact their tech support department (I don't have a link on
              me) if you need the cd. OS 2.0.x also adds a few other synths, and has
              some bug fixes. Finally, the update has updated versions of the manuals,
              which are very helpful to learn the ins and outs of the card.

              When installed, you can find the drumkits in the catalog (Programs tab)
              under:
              Korg/Drum Kits - Triton/

              http://www.korg.com/oasyspci.htm

              .
              .
              .
              .
              .

              While you're at it, you should check out the various Physically Modelled
              drum patches available. These are great, as you can assign midi
              controllers
              to actually change the tone (not just volume and ADSR envelope) of
              the instrument. This is what truly sets the OASYS apart from standard
              sample-playback synths (like the Quadrasynth and Triton, etc...):

              http://norsez.tripod.com/oasys.html - techno oriented bass drum synth
              with several distortions, and many other cool synths.

              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oasys-pci-files/Experimental%20Synths/
              - has a 4 cell cymbal model
              try this link http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oasys-pci/files/ and click on
              Experimental synths if the previous link didn't work.

              http://www.zargmusic.com/nss-folder/harmvisseroasyspatches/
              - morphing drums, cymbal, and other PhM goodies. MP3 demos too.

              http://www.danphillips.com/oasys.htm
              - Dan (Oasys Team and yahoo group moderator) makes great effects.
            • Qwli
              Hi, I got my Oasys through ebay, but the ver 1 CD was very scratched. No problem, since I got the ver 2 from the web, but I was wondering if I was missing any
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                Hi,

                I got my Oasys through ebay, but the ver 1 CD was very scratched. No
                problem, since I got the ver 2 from the web, but I was wondering if I was
                missing any samples/multis etc. Are they all included in the ver 2
                download?

                Thanks,
                Steven
              • Brandon Daniel
                Reply to: RE: [oasys-pci] Ver 1.0 CD samples ... There are no multis that were included in V1 that were removed for V2. The Demo Multis folder contents will
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                  Reply to: RE: [oasys-pci] Ver 1.0 CD samples
                  Qwli wrote:
                  >Hi,
                  >
                  >I got my Oasys through ebay, but the ver 1 CD was very scratched. No
                  >problem, since I got the ver 2 from the web, but I was wondering if I was
                  >missing any samples/multis etc. Are they all included in the ver 2
                  >download?

                  There are no multis that were included in V1 that were removed for V2.

                  The Demo Multis folder contents will change, but those were duplicated in the korg multis folder in both versions.

                  In short, no, you aren't missing anything.

                  Brandon Daniel
                  QA Specialist
                  Korg Research and Development
                • Joe F
                  I think we d all agree that Oasys PCI is a very deep unit. So deep in fact that each owner can approach it from an entirely different angle and after months of
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                    I think we'd all agree that Oasys PCI is a very deep unit. So deep in fact
                    that each owner can approach it from an entirely different angle and after
                    months of exploration, still not uncover all its potential. We can all tip
                    our hats (once again) to Dan Phillips and the Korg team for that.

                    One thing missing from the software though was demo MIDI files to showcase
                    the variety and some of the more esoteric elements. But I think we're all
                    glad that the time went into producing more instruments and programs.

                    If you look into the Korg:Samples: directory in the Catalog you'll see
                    something like 15 directories of samples labeled "Drum" to make your own
                    multisamples and programs for drum kits. Added to these are the Sliced
                    Groove Folders labeled "Jazz", "Groove", and "Drum Loops". That makes a
                    pretty decent arsenal to start with.

                    The factory Multis (for example Oasys DrumKit 1) show a suggested usage for
                    Oasys as a drum submixer with separate programs for each channel strip
                    enabling you to treat each voice individually "pro-style". Not quite the
                    same as the typical synth/sampler all in one drumkit.

                    I haven't done a full inventory but it doesn't seem like all the samples are
                    represented in the supplied presets, and it goes without saying that the
                    number of potential combinations for forming a kit is quite high. Especially
                    if you start using the sliced samples and importing your own.

                    A recent thread on the list got me experimenting with the sliced programs.
                    On my first run thru the Oasys I didn't get much out of these so I bypassed
                    them to spend my time on other aspects. But the sheer number of them
                    suggested there was something more to be found and suddenly it hit me to try
                    Groove Quantize.

                    Set up a sequence with a track assigned to play an Oasys channel. (My
                    reference is Digital Performer). Draw in a series of 21 eighth notes to play
                    chromatically (black and white keys) from C4 to Ab5 and set the sequence to
                    loop. You can use this to audition all the sliced loops. Most of them have
                    less than 21 slices so you'll just shorten the sequence loop to hear it
                    repeat seamlessly while you experiment with changing the tempo. I haven't
                    come across one that was longer than the 21 notes (yet). Anyway, lots of fun
                    to be had there.

                    Mute the notes or make a new blank track and slap the Arpeggiator on it.
                    Holding down different clusters of keys and fooling with the duration and
                    timing settings gives you an endless supply of rhythms. In DP each note
                    repeats with its individual velocity so experimenting with different accents
                    is as simple as restriking a note. Hold down at least 4 or 5 keys and
                    groups of 3 or 4 contiguous keys (all together) I got best results with the
                    slice programs labeled "Standard" because the sample slices are more clearly
                    defined than the "Groove" and "Jazz". But there's fun to be had with those
                    as well. Playing with this for a few minutes you'll stumble across every
                    rhythm from samba to death metal as well as some totally pointless stuff
                    that might find a place in "your" music.

                    Next duplicate the original track and edit it so that the first 8 notes play
                    twice (repeat the first bar) and loop the first 2 bars. DP's Groove files
                    are mostly based on 2 bar patterns. Let the sequence loop and apply the
                    Groove Quantize. Certain combinations of Sliced Programs and applied Grooves
                    yield incredible results.

                    Brian put up a good list of Oasys drum resources but left out what may be
                    the best by forgetting Brandon Daniels' Electro Drums which can be found
                    (along with all the other good stuff) via this page:
                    "http://www.korg.com/oasyspci_sounds_3rd_party.htm"

                    In the words of the man: "Play on drummer..."

                    I'd love to hear everyone else's tips and tricks as well. Please post them.

                    Joe F.
                  • Joe F
                    I d be a pretty crappy friend if I didn t mention that Kid Nepro offers a great selection of sounds in AIFF or WAV format that work well for Oasys. The samples
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                      I'd be a pretty crappy friend if I didn't mention that Kid Nepro offers a
                      great selection of sounds in AIFF or WAV format that work well for Oasys.
                      The samples are arranged in packages that are $5 each (13 for the price of
                      10) and include many of the vintage drum machines we're all so fond of, as
                      well as a nice assortment of other sounds. You can pay for the sounds you
                      want and download them over the net. The whole deal is also offered on CD
                      ROM at a big discount.

                      They're at: "http://www.kidnepro.com/"

                      You'll have to drop them in your "OASYS PCI Folder:User Files:Samples:"
                      directory and create a multisample to use them in your own programs but
                      that's not too tough to do in the Editor.

                      Joe F.
                    • Emusic
                      Cool stuff about the Slice goodies Joe. They are indeed fun to play with. Here is another tip for someone to try. If you have a Triton, or Karma you can get
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                        Cool stuff about the Slice goodies Joe. They are indeed
                        fun to play with.

                        Here is another tip for someone to try. If you have a Triton,
                        or Karma you can get the factory preload data for the EXB3
                        expansion board which is where our Oasys Slices come from
                        Just load the sequence data with RPPR. Then by pushing the
                        appropriate key on the triton the correct rhythm will be sent
                        out to Oasys and if you load the correct slice, the phat beats
                        will be played! eg: key F in Seq RPPR Mode plays Slice85Jazz.
                        Check the note display on the Triton/Karma and
                        find the appropriate slice name in Oasys and load it up.

                        You will soon notice that not all the beats/slices and note
                        numbers/sample triggers match up, but quite a lot of them
                        do. It would require a lot of work to catalog and match up
                        these RPPR patterns into different midi files to trigger
                        the slices but it could be done.........

                        Cheers,
                        Nev.
                      • Joe F
                        Finally the answer I ve been looking for. Thanks Nev. I don t have a Triton or Karma, expanded or otherwise, so I ve wondered about the meaning of these
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                          Finally the answer I've been looking for. Thanks Nev. I don't have a Triton
                          or Karma, expanded or otherwise, so I've wondered about the "meaning" of
                          these programs.

                          Now if someone can come up with the final piece of the puzzle for me:
                          Many of the sliced programs have extra beats when applied to 4 (or 8)
                          measures of 4 beats. Are these extra beats meant for fills or, are some of
                          the Triton sequences in odd time signatures OR, are there tuplets involved?

                          Joe F.

                          On 5/1/02 7:53 PM, "Emusic" wrote:

                          > Cool stuff about the Slice goodies Joe. They are indeed
                          > fun to play with.
                          >
                          > Here is another tip for someone to try. If you have a Triton,
                          > or Karma you can get the factory preload data for the EXB3
                          > expansion board which is where our Oasys Slices come from
                          > Just load the sequence data with RPPR. Then by pushing the
                          > appropriate key on the triton the correct rhythm will be sent
                          > out to Oasys and if you load the correct slice, the phat beats
                          > will be played! eg: key F in Seq RPPR Mode plays Slice85Jazz.
                          > Check the note display on the Triton/Karma and
                          > find the appropriate slice name in Oasys and load it up.
                          >
                          > You will soon notice that not all the beats/slices and note
                          > numbers/sample triggers match up, but quite a lot of them
                          > do. It would require a lot of work to catalog and match up
                          > these RPPR patterns into different midi files to trigger
                          > the slices but it could be done.........
                          >
                          > Cheers,
                          > Nev.
                        • collin_meyer
                          I have a Waldorf MicroQ, which I love dearly, and yesterday I found a cool application for it s arpegiator. Drum kits on the MicroQ cannot have arpegiators
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                            I have a Waldorf MicroQ, which I love dearly, and yesterday I found a
                            cool application for it's arpegiator. Drum kits on the MicroQ cannot
                            have arpegiators associated with them... but the arpegiator can send
                            via MIDI. So I output my MicroQ to the OasysPCI with a drum kit
                            loaded, hold down a few keys on my board, and I get a nice patterned
                            rythem. It actually sounds pretty impressive.

                            So if you have a hardware synth that has an arpegiator you like, you
                            can maybe use it to make some cool beats on the OasysPCI.

                            Another thing I've thought of, but have yet to try, is to use Native
                            Instrument's Reaktor to create drum patterns and arpegiations. For
                            that matter, you could probably create some extra LFO's and have them
                            send MIDI CC's to OasysPCI. This combo could afford you some very
                            extensive possibilities.

                            --- In oasys-pci@y..., Joe F <joef1@m...> wrote:
                            > Finally the answer I've been looking for. Thanks Nev. I don't have
                            a Triton
                            > or Karma, expanded or otherwise, so I've wondered about
                            the "meaning" of
                            > these programs.
                            >
                            > Now if someone can come up with the final piece of the puzzle for
                            me:
                            > Many of the sliced programs have extra beats when applied to 4 (or
                            8)
                            > measures of 4 beats. Are these extra beats meant for fills or, are
                            some of
                            > the Triton sequences in odd time signatures OR, are there tuplets
                            involved?
                            >
                            > Joe F.
                            >
                            > On 5/1/02 7:53 PM, "Emusic" wrote:
                            >
                            > > Cool stuff about the Slice goodies Joe. They are indeed
                            > > fun to play with.
                            > >
                            > > Here is another tip for someone to try. If you have a Triton,
                            > > or Karma you can get the factory preload data for the EXB3
                            > > expansion board which is where our Oasys Slices come from
                            > > Just load the sequence data with RPPR. Then by pushing the
                            > > appropriate key on the triton the correct rhythm will be sent
                            > > out to Oasys and if you load the correct slice, the phat beats
                            > > will be played! eg: key F in Seq RPPR Mode plays Slice85Jazz.
                            > > Check the note display on the Triton/Karma and
                            > > find the appropriate slice name in Oasys and load it up.
                            > >
                            > > You will soon notice that not all the beats/slices and note
                            > > numbers/sample triggers match up, but quite a lot of them
                            > > do. It would require a lot of work to catalog and match up
                            > > these RPPR patterns into different midi files to trigger
                            > > the slices but it could be done.........
                            > >
                            > > Cheers,
                            > > Nev.
                          • chmedly
                            You aren t refering to the D4 are you? Gag. ... used in the
                            Message 13 of 19 , May 2, 2002
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                              You aren't refering to the D4 are you? Gag.

                              --- In oasys-pci@y..., "peezahj" <Peezahj@a...> wrote:
                              > Technology isn't the issue, you're comparing the samples
                              used in the
                              > synths & Alesis has always had great drum samples.
                              >
                              > -Eric Dahlberg
                              >
                              >
                            • peezahj
                              heh, completely agree but they ve been used more commercially than probably any other drum sound & because of that probably sound more real to most people.
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                                heh, completely agree but they've been used more commercially than
                                probably any other drum sound & because of that probably sound
                                more "real" to most people. The kick from the HR-16B was the holy
                                grail if you were ever a Ministry or Jesus Lizard fan (oh miserable
                                youth ;)).

                                -Eric Dahlberg


                                --- In oasys-pci@y..., "chmedly" <chmedly@y...> wrote:
                                > You aren't refering to the D4 are you? Gag.
                                >
                                > --- In oasys-pci@y..., "peezahj" <Peezahj@a...> wrote:
                                > > Technology isn't the issue, you're comparing the samples
                                > used in the
                                > > synths & Alesis has always had great drum samples.
                                > >
                                > > -Eric Dahlberg
                                > >
                                > >
                              • Joe F
                                Oh Please with this copyright crap again. Every little thing is intellectual property. They re just demo files. Anyone can download them free from Korg s
                                Message 15 of 19 , May 3, 2002
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                                  Oh Please with this copyright crap again.

                                  Every little thing is intellectual property. They're just demo files. Anyone
                                  can download them free from Korg's website. Willy-nilly to the world at
                                  large.

                                  You mean if I sample the "Around The World" demo song from my X5DR, made a
                                  REX file out of the bagpipe part and used it in one of my tunes I would need
                                  a release from Korg? Gee, how much of my royalties do you think I should
                                  give up?

                                  In fact that song has a Spanish guitar part that sounds very similar to a
                                  well known song. Is it "MalagueƱa"? Maybe we should contact the publishers
                                  and inform them of this infringement on their rights.

                                  I think no matter how politely you ask, it's a matter of some Korg exec
                                  deciding to assign one of their paid employees to the 10 minute task of
                                  finding, labeling, and packaging the files into zip and sit archives, and
                                  then posting them to the web for the benefit of those "poor Oasys users".

                                  In other words, those XP drivers will more likely happen first.

                                  Even if we had the files it would be a matter of endless trial and error to
                                  match up the MIDI file with the sliced program it's intended for. I'm just
                                  happy to have solved the mystery of why the hell they're there in the first
                                  place. Now I can sleep at night.

                                  Cheers,
                                  Joe F.


                                  On 5/3/02 9:17 PM, "David Bourke" wrote:

                                  > On 3/5/02 10:20 am, stephen.carlisle@... wrote:
                                  >
                                  >> For those with out an Triton, would it be possible for someone with
                                  > a
                                  >> Triton to record the Tritons midi output in their sequencer and save
                                  >> it as a midi file. The generic .midi files would then be able to be
                                  >> used by all with a sequencer capable of importing them. I know it
                                  >> would be a lot of work and of no benifit to any one who owns a
                                  >> Triton, but real useful for the rest of us............Just a
                                  >> thought. Z.
                                  >
                                  > I see where you're coming from. But this isn't public domain stuff.
                                  > Korg owns the copyright to the midifiles that make up the loops on
                                  > their EXB3 "Future Loop Construction" board. While they provide them
                                  > for use free and clear to the buyer of the board, said buyer is
                                  > legally precluded from handing them out willy-nilly to the rest of the
                                  > world at large...
                                  >
                                  > Jolly rogers and all that ;)
                                  >
                                  > However, I would imagine that Korg might respond positively to
                                  > OASYS-PCI user requests for these midi files to be made available for
                                  > the use of card owners. Dan? Brandon?
                                  >
                                  > Kind regards.
                                  >
                                  > Dave Bourke.
                                • housucka
                                  ill second that gag. theyre not all that bad for house tho.
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                                    ill second that gag.

                                    theyre not all that bad for house tho.


                                    --- In oasys-pci@y..., "chmedly" <chmedly@y...> wrote:
                                    > You aren't refering to the D4 are you? Gag.
                                    >
                                    > --- In oasys-pci@y..., "peezahj" <Peezahj@a...> wrote:
                                    > > Technology isn't the issue, you're comparing the samples
                                    > used in the
                                    > > synths & Alesis has always had great drum samples.
                                    > >
                                    > > -Eric Dahlberg
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                  • David Bourke
                                    ... Umm, so where does it say that then? ... at ... Then what s holding you back, Joe? Download away, I say. Willy-nilly ;) ... That s what I love to see on
                                    Message 17 of 19 , May 4, 2002
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                                      On 3/5/02 10:07 pm, joef1@... wrote:

                                      > Oh Please with this copyright crap again.
                                      >
                                      > Every little thing is intellectual property. They're just demo files.

                                      Umm, so where does it say that then?

                                      > Anyone
                                      > can download them free from Korg's website. Willy-nilly to the world
                                      at
                                      > large.

                                      Then what's holding you back, Joe? Download away, I say. Willy-nilly ;)

                                      > I think no matter how politely you ask, it's a matter of some Korg
                                      > exec
                                      > deciding to assign one of their paid employees

                                      ...as opposed to one of their unpaid employees? ;)

                                      > to the 10 minute
                                      > task of
                                      > finding, labeling, and packaging the files into zip and sit
                                      > archives, and
                                      > then posting them to the web for the benefit of those "poor Oasys
                                      > users".
                                      >
                                      > In other words, those XP drivers will more likely happen first.

                                      That's what I love to see on this list - unbounded optimism ;)

                                      > I'm just
                                      > happy to have solved the mystery of why the hell they're there in
                                      > the first
                                      > place. Now I can sleep at night.

                                      You know, that gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling ;)

                                      Regards.

                                      Dave Bourke.
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                                      ... (My ... notes to play ... sequence to ... them have ... hear it ... haven t ... lots of fun ... post them. If you listen carefully to the individual slices
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                                        --- In oasys-pci@y..., Joe F <joef1@m...> wrote:

                                        > Set up a sequence with a track assigned to play an Oasys channel.
                                        (My
                                        > reference is Digital Performer). Draw in a series of 21 eighth
                                        notes to play
                                        > chromatically (black and white keys) from C4 to Ab5 and set the
                                        sequence to
                                        > loop. You can use this to audition all the sliced loops. Most of
                                        them have
                                        > less than 21 slices so you'll just shorten the sequence loop to
                                        hear it
                                        > repeat seamlessly while you experiment with changing the tempo. I
                                        haven't
                                        > come across one that was longer than the 21 notes (yet). Anyway,
                                        lots of fun
                                        > to be had there.
                                        >
                                        > In the words of the man: "Play on drummer..."
                                        >
                                        > I'd love to hear everyone else's tips and tricks as well. Please
                                        post them.

                                        If you listen carefully to the individual slices of any given loop
                                        you'll hear that they're not all one 1/8th note in length. Some (in
                                        fact most) are only a 1/16th note. Therefore if you simply loop the
                                        notes chromatically as 1/8th notes you're not going to hear how the
                                        loop sounded before it was sliced up. Its worth a little effort to
                                        hear the grooves how they were intended. This also explains why some
                                        grooves have more slices than others.

                                        chris
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