Re: [oasys-pci] So what did the world want?
- That's not a bad idea but I think that what bothered people most was not that
it was in the computer, but that after spending so much money on the Oasys at
the end of the day there wasn't enough DSP power to use more of the great
sounds it did make at once. If we've learned anything its that there is never
enough of a good thing, most DSP cards offer some degree of modularity, in that
they are Multi card capable. You can get a few UAD-1's, Pulsars, TC
Powercores, SW1000XG PLG's etc. In this way you would be able to build up to
the level of DSP power you need. But with the Oasys I think many felt that it
was too much to spend on a card that seemed to run out of power just when it
was getting good. Take Creamware for instance if you want a little you can get
it, if you want more you can get it, if you want to get ludicrous amounts of
DSP, you can get it. If Korg had a similar modular approach perhaps they could
have offered a card priced lower with just a little less DSP, but you could
build up the system by adding more cards. And then they could have a Deluxe
model that offered on one card a massive amount of DSP for those who wanted it.
There was no entry level only the top of the line, so if you weren't ready to
dive in the deep end and get the pricey Oasys, there was no other option. They
should have kept the 1212 I/O but added a few DSP's to it and called it the
entry level Oasys.
--- Elmar Kurgpold <elmar@...> wrote:
> But would people really have bought a PC+Oasys at 4k? What else could=====
> you do with it (hypothetically speaking of course)? Would I be forced
> to give up DP and use Cubase? Is Cubase certified on the "Oasys PC"?
> Well, that's just the beginning...
> We go through this discussion every few weeks, it seems, and everybody
> (not excluding myself) seems to have their own idea of what would have
> made Oasys successful.
> Based on the previous few posts on this subject (and my own intuitive
> market "research"), I think what would have sold better is a rack mount
> version with a healthy and well organized library of sounds. Then you
> connect it to your Mac or PC via MIDI or USB or whatever and use the
> editor, just like we use today. Kinda like the POD, where you get some
> cool sounds to play with, and the ability to go in and tweak via MIDI if
> you so desire.
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- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Dan Phillips <dan@k...> wrote:
> I have to wonder if we are talking about the same product. I'veI haven't tried the PlugSound stuff, but Atmosphere didn't seem to be
> tried UVI's PlugSound instruments, and while they sound OK, they
> have fairly limited synthesis capabilities, and yet use far more
> processing power than some other soft synths. With low buffer
> settings for reasonable latency, a three-voice drum pattern used
> most of the processing power on my G4/400.
especially processor-hungry on my system (XP2100+, DDR).
It /is/ very memory-hungry, I think they recommend 512 or a Gig of
memory if you want to be able to run a few of them at once, as part
of a larger system.
Yes, the synthesis on OASYS is pretty limited, but it's not really
meant for radical synthesis -- as a "pad" machine with a big library,
that's not really a problem. If you suddenly decide that you just
want a Solina pad or a generic string section, and those things have
already been set up to play nicely on Atmosphere, chances are you
won't be wanting to dive in and radically change the sound.
What I meant when I said that I thought that his was the way that the
market was going, was that so far most of the softsynth efforts have
been pure synthesis or pure samplers ... now I think were going to
see more attempts to produce playable instruments based on large
libraries and playback engines optimised for a particular job.
Spectrasonics' "Trilogy" bass VST is a good example, it has another
three Gig sample library, but is set up specially for playing
basslines (eg it has has a feature that allows it to trigger slide
and fretnoises by noteoffs).
And I just noticed that Steinberg are bringing out a special "String
edition" of Halon. I think we'll see some more of these.
> So far, at least, soft samplers/sample players don't seem toquality,
> provide a compelling reason to trade in my e6400 Ultra, which
> offers 64 voices (upgradable to 128), has no appreciable latency,
> includes sophisticated synthesis features and superior audio
> and finally has zero affect on my CPU. :-)Well, if they bring out something like that with an mLAN interface, I
might be interested.
> One might point out that soft samplers are cheaper. That's true -To some extent.
> but I would counter that you get what you pay for.