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RE: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time

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  • Bryan Wright
    I hadn t realized what this was about until seeing the PPS that Yar?Yar! posted... Not trying to be a wet blanket, but FYI.
    Message 1 of 14 , Mar 7, 2007
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      I hadn’t realized what this was about until seeing the PPS that Yar?Yar! posted…..

       

      Not trying to be a wet blanket, but FYI…

       

      http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4535

       

      http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_381_,00.html#686

       

      http://www.resus.org.uk/pages/coughCPR.htm

       

      You can Google this one and find more than you ever wanted to read. There are apparently documented cases in monitored, clinical settings where this may have worked.  Both reference the Criley study mentioned in some of the internet articles. The UK Resuscitation Council states the grim reality:  “The BLS/AED Subcommittee knows of no evidence that, even if a lone patient knew that cardiac arrest had occurred, he or she would be able to maintain sufficient circulation to allow activity, let alone driving to the hospital. “

       

      Disclaimers:  While I know CPR (I used to be an AHA BLS instructor and have had the misfortune to be in a position to administer it a couple of times), I’m most certainly not a doctor, nor an expert on the subject.  YMMV.  Don’t read this while operating heavy machinery, etc.

       

      bryan

       


      From: nuts_@yahoogroups.com [mailto: nuts_@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Yar?Yar!
      Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:39 PM
      To: nuts_@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time

       

      I have dropped the slide show into JPGs if you want to see them.  They are at http://timebender.com/heart if you are interested, as well as a clean powerpoint slideshow.  Right-click and save if you want the powerpoint slide.

    • redhawk2853@msn.com
      OK, silly me! That s what I get for forwarding what SEEMED to be important information. So the American Heart Assoc. doesn t teach it or recommend it... so,,,
      Message 2 of 14 , Mar 8, 2007
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        OK, silly me! That's what I get for forwarding what SEEMED to be important information. So the American Heart Assoc. doesn't teach it or recommend it... so,,, what do they know. anyway?! LOL Sorry folks... NEVERMIND!   Rock
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Bryan Wright
        Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:05 PM
        To: nuts_@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time
         

        I hadn’t realized what this was about until seeing the PPS that Yar?Yar! posted….

        Not trying to be a wet blanket, but FYI…

        http://www.american heart.org/ presenter. jhtml?identifier =4535

        http://www.redcross .org/faq/ 0,1096,0_ 381_,00.html# 686

        http://www.resus. org.uk/pages/ coughCPR htm

        You can Google this one and find more than you ever wanted to read. There are apparently documented cases in monitored, clinical settings where this may have worked.  Both reference the Criley study mentioned in some of the internet articles. The UK Resuscitation Council states the grim reality:  “The BLS/AED Subcommittee knows of no evidence that, even if a lone patient knew that cardiac arrest had occurred, he or she would be able to maintain sufficient circulation to allow activity, let alone driving to the hospital. “

        Disclaimers:  While I know CPR (I used to be an AHA BLS instructor and have had the misfortune to be in a position to administer it a couple of times), I’m most certainly not a doctor, nor an expert on the subject.  YMMV.  Don’t read this while operating heavy machinery, etc.

        bryan


        From: nuts_@yahoogroups. com [mailto: nuts_@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Yar?Yar!
        Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:39 PM
        To: nuts_@yahoogroups. com
        Subject: Re: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time

        I have dropped the slide show into JPGs if you want to see them.  They are at http://timebender. com/heart if you are interested, as well as a clean powerpoint slideshow.  Right-click and save if you want the powerpoint slide.

      • geospyder
        Hey - your heart was in the right place (pun intended). Jim (geospyder) _____ From: nuts_@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nuts_@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
        Message 3 of 14 , Mar 8, 2007
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          Hey – your heart was in the right place (pun intended).

           

          Jim (geospyder)


          From: nuts_@yahoogroups.com [mailto: nuts_@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of redhawk2853@...
          Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:59 AM
          To: NUTS
          Subject: Re: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time

           

          OK, silly me! That's what I get for forwarding what SEEMED to be important information. So the American Heart Assoc. doesn't teach it or recommend it... so,,, what do they know. anyway?! LOL Sorry folks... NEVERMIND!   Rock

           

          ----- Original Message -----

          From: Bryan Wright

          Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:05 PM

          To: nuts_@yahoogroups. com

          Subject: RE: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time

           

          I hadn’t realized what this was about until seeing the PPS that Yar?Yar! posted….

          Not trying to be a wet blanket, but FYI…

          http://www.american heart.org/ presenter. jhtml?identifier =4535

          http://www.redcross .org/faq/ 0,1096,0_ 381_,00.html# 686

          http://www.resus. org.uk/pages/ coughCPR htm

          You can Google this one and find more than you ever wanted to read. There are apparently documented cases in monitored, clinical settings where this may have worked.  Both reference the Criley study mentioned in some of the internet articles. The UK Resuscitation Council states the grim reality:  “The BLS/AED Subcommittee knows of no evidence that, even if a lone patient knew that cardiac arrest had occurred, he or she would be able to maintain sufficient circulation to allow activity, let alone driving to the hospital. “

          Disclaimers:  While I know CPR (I used to be an AHA BLS instructor and have had the misfortune to be in a position to administer it a couple of times), I’m most certainly not a doctor, nor an expert on the subject.  YMMV.  Don’t read this while operating heavy machinery, etc.

          bryan


          From: nuts_@yahoogroups. com [mailto: nuts_@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Yar?Yar!
          Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:39 PM
          To: nuts_@yahoogroups. com
          Subject: Re: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time

          I have dropped the slide show into JPGs if you want to see them.  They are at http://timebender. com/heart if you are interested, as well as a clean powerpoint slideshow.  Right-click and save if you want the powerpoint slide.

        • Casagrande
          But Rock, You ve got us looking and learning and as a person with risk factors I appreciate the nudge. So no need to apolize in my opinion. Any info we get
          Message 4 of 14 , Mar 8, 2007
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            But Rock, You've got us looking and learning and as a person with risk factors
            I appreciate the nudge. So no need to apolize in my opinion. Any info we get should
            be examined and researched before we believe. I still haven't read it all or watched the
            slides but I will.
             
            Anne

            redhawk2853@... wrote:
            OK, silly me! That's what I get for forwarding what SEEMED to be important information. So the American Heart Assoc. doesn't teach it or recommend it... so,,, what do they know. anyway?! LOL Sorry folks... NEVERMIND!   Rock
             
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Bryan Wright
            Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:05 PM
            To: nuts_@yahoogroups. com
            Subject: RE: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time
             
            I hadn’t realized what this was about until seeing the PPS that Yar?Yar! posted….
            Not trying to be a wet blanket, but FYI…
            You can Google this one and find more than you ever wanted to read. There are apparently documented cases in monitored, clinical settings where this may have worked.  Both reference the Criley study mentioned in some of the internet articles. The UK Resuscitation Council states the grim reality:  “The BLS/AED Subcommittee knows of no evidence that, even if a lone patient knew that cardiac arrest had occurred, he or she would be able to maintain sufficient circulation to allow activity, let alone driving to the hospital. “
            Disclaimers:  While I know CPR (I used to be an AHA BLS instructor and have had the misfortune to be in a position to administer it a couple of times), I’m most certainly not a doctor, nor an expert on the subject.  YMMV.  Don’t read this while operating heavy machinery, etc.
            bryan

            From: nuts_@yahoogroups. com [mailto: nuts_@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Yar?Yar!
            Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:39 PM
            To: nuts_@yahoogroups. com
            Subject: Re: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time
            I have dropped the slide show into JPGs if you want to see them.  They are at http://timebender. com/heart if you are interested, as well as a clean powerpoint slideshow.  Right-click and save if you want the powerpoint slide.


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          • Bryan Wright
            Definite agreement here with what Anne says! There is a lot of stuff out there, much of it good-intentioned. In fact some of the other references noted
            Message 5 of 14 , Mar 8, 2007
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              Definite agreement here with what Anne says!  There is a lot of stuff out there, much of it good-intentioned.  In fact some of the other references noted during a search were known cardiac orgs who shared the information as well.  I think it is good to be aware of this and to consider taking a course on CPR.  Much new training surrounds AEDs and their use.  They are becoming much less expensive and widely available, and they can make a huge difference in many cases of cardiac arrest!

               

              And of course going out and chasing after a good Scoobert cache or two would be great medicine as well!

               

              bryan (The SKWERL)

               


              From: nuts_@yahoogroups.com [mailto: nuts_@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Casagrande
              Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:46 AM
              To: nuts_@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time

               

              But Rock, You've got us looking and learning and as a person with risk factors

              I appreciate the nudge. So no need to apolize in my opinion. Any info we get should

              be examined and researched before we believe. I still haven't read it all or watched the

              slides but I will.

               

              Anne

              redhawk2853@... wrote:

              OK, silly me! That's what I get for forwarding what SEEMED to be important information. So the American Heart Assoc. doesn't teach it or recommend it... so,,, what do they know. anyway?! LOL Sorry folks... NEVERMIND!   Rock

               

              ----- Original Message -----

              From: Bryan Wright

              Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:05 PM

              To: nuts_@yahoogroups. com

              Subject: RE: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time

               

              I hadn’t realized what this was about until seeing the PPS that Yar?Yar! posted….

              Not trying to be a wet blanket, but FYI…

              You can Google this one and find more than you ever wanted to read. There are apparently documented cases in monitored, clinical settings where this may have worked.  Both reference the Criley study mentioned in some of the internet articles. The UK Resuscitation Council states the grim reality:  “The BLS/AED Subcommittee knows of no evidence that, even if a lone patient knew that cardiac arrest had occurred, he or she would be able to maintain sufficient circulation to allow activity, let alone driving to the hospital. “

              Disclaimers:  While I know CPR (I used to be an AHA BLS instructor and have had the misfortune to be in a position to administer it a couple of times), I’m most certainly not a doctor, nor an expert on the subject.  YMMV.  Don’t read this while operating heavy machinery, etc.

              bryan


              From: nuts_@yahoogroups. com [mailto: nuts_@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Yar?Yar!
              Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:39 PM
              To: nuts_@yahoogroups. com
              Subject: Re: [NUTS] Few: Heart Attack Slide Show - Worth 45 Seconds of Your Time

              I have dropped the slide show into JPGs if you want to see them.  They are at http://timebender. com/heart if you are interested, as well as a clean powerpoint slideshow.  Right-click and save if you want the powerpoint slide.

               

               


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