Who? Me? Jump into the Frey?
- There's a nice new file (read: monthly notice) that will be sent out
to the group automagically. It's a primer on "Netiquette" (Net
Etiquette). Nice little friendly reminder of the ins and outs of
Time for my own story I guess. When I first found geocaching, it was
the greatest thing since sliced bread. I was hungry, nay,
bloodthirsty for the next hunt! Drooling on my keyboard as I checked
the nearest caches to me on the site every hour or two. The first
three months I found 100 caches each, and since I started in November,
there wasn't much daylight after work so many weekday finds were even
struggled after in the dark.
However, what I didn't realize was that I had started stepping on
people's toes. One lunchtime find I met some other cachers already at
the site (first time for this...) and sauntered in, found and signed
the cache, and left without letting them know. I didn't think
anything of it, as I figured they were there for the hide/find, not
for the numbers, and I didn't want to ruin their hunt. This did not
set well with them, however, and they had a few choice words about it.
Once I found out, I did apologize to them, and all was fine, but I
had not known that their playing of the geocaching game was so
different from my motives.
Some folks in different areas were accustomed being to the grand
poobah First-to-Find kings. Some of these started posting hurtful
messages in their logs, or making not-so-nice comments at events, and
these things too eventually got back to me. This took the wind out of
my sails. I am not a highly competitive person, and the downright
anger I felt coming at me turned me off caching for several months. I
still have not regained the enthusiasm I once had, and never check
daily for new caches.
I saw an interesting poem years ago that still sticks with me:
Watch the words you use,
Keep the kind and sweet,
for you never know from day to day,
which ones you'll have to eat.
Now, to be more direct on the matters recently at hand:
Ed: Thanks for the wonderful hides. Your parking garage ones have
been some of my absolute favorites. However, before criticizing
others, remember your own faults as well. We all have one or two.
There is also a rule on the geo books about caches being long-term
oriented, as in no 3-4 month caches. However your own caches are
often archived within 4 months, and the average is around 5 months,
though one was up for two years before archiving. There have been
several I have been very disappointed about not getting a chance to
search for because either work was busy or I was out of town on the
weekends for a couple months. Be patient with others. Others can
easily be hurt, without any malice on your part, just due to wording.
Debbie: Remember, there are no stupid questions, 'cept the unasked
ones! You felt the way you did, 'slammed', and you communicated how
you felt. This is good. The whole group has been 'slammed' a few
times. Congrats to you for being the first to speak out against it.
Indeed, you were slammed again when asked if you left your caches as
All: Try your best to be good communicators. Re-read your posts
before sending them out. And take special care when you are sending
personal email to a user. You are, after all, entering their 'home'
via their email box. Be considerate of that fact.
Please folks, stop the slamming. This group is for growing closer.
If you want to lecture/preach rules to others, that's politics. As
was pointed out well by others in earlier posts, politics and religion
are fightin' words when the holders' views are different.
Peace all. Grok?
> Ed: Thanks for the wonderful hides. Your parking garage ones havewording.
> been some of my absolute favorites. However, before criticizing
> others, remember your own faults as well. We all have one or two.
> There is also a rule on the geo books about caches being long-term
> oriented, as in no 3-4 month caches. However your own caches are
> often archived within 4 months, and the average is around 5 months,
> though one was up for two years before archiving. There have been
> several I have been very disappointed about not getting a chance to
> search for because either work was busy or I was out of town on the
> weekends for a couple months. Be patient with others. Others can
> easily be hurt, without any malice on your part, just due to
The puzzle cache that I had hidden, then archived after four months
had been stolen (I'm assuming that's the one you was referring to
now and in your post a few months ago). I checked the hide, and the
area it was hidden had become compromised. I could not reasonably
replace a container in the same spot. Nobody was more bummed about
losing that cache than myself because it was an ammo can with lots
of trade items, and I had put some time into the cache page for the
puzzle (I love the pics). (Did you notice I checked on it 3 days
after a problem was noted?).
Archiving the cache was well within the guidlines, and replacing it
would have been futile.
My other caches have been archived for similar reasons. Normally, if
the cache is muggled, I replace the container. Some caches have been
replaced several times. If it is taken a second time (or 3rd), I
archive the listing. One listing was archived due to homeland
security concerns, another was archived because the hide just didn't
work (magnetic paper that kept blowing down...I still like that
All of my caches are planned as long-term hides, and archived when
From the geocaching.com guidlines:
When you report a cache on the Geocaching.com web site, geocachers
should (and will) expect the cache to be there for a realistic and
extended period of time. Therefore, caches that have the goal to
move ("traveling caches"), or temporary caches (caches hidden for
less than 3 months or for events) most likely will not be listed. If
you wish to hide caches for an event, bring printouts to the event
and hand them out there.
We realize that it is possible that a planned long-term cache
occasionally becomes finite because of concerns with the
environment, missing or plundered caches, or the owner's decision to
remove the cache for other valid reasons. Please do your best to
research fully, hide wisely, and maintain properly for a long cache
Now if I can just find that %$%$@! Butte College Whale Tail
micro...that thing haunts me!