5394Re: [NUTS] Fires
- Jul 12, 2008Thank you so much, all of you, for your offerings of help, even from our East Coast NUTS!! You guys really ROCK!! Cachers are just the best!! I think we have things covered here, and it sounds like BluCruz has things under control (we want one of those sprayer thingies too) :o). But it sure is nice to know there are so many great folks out there ready to help if necessary.
As y'all probably know, the fires turned deadly with the discovery of one body in Concow yesterday. Those folks were under "immediate evacuation" more than once and guess the person decided to ride it out the second time. The news calls it "mandatory evacuation", I think in California you can't be made to leave your home, only advised! So some people get lucky when they stay, and some don't. So sad!
Our little county of Butte (no not Butt) has lost around 150 homes between the Ophir, Humboldt and Camp Fires (a combination of several fires). We now have firefighters not only from the western states but as far away as Florida in the US, and now they are coming from Australia, New Zealand, Mexico, Canada and even Greece!! About 50,000 acres have burned in Butte County alone. There are similar fires in Shasta, Tehama, Trinity, Plumas, and other nearby counties., but less of a threat (so far) to high population areas.
The winds have been pretty helpful to the firefighters lately, which has allowed them get a bit of an edge of the fire. That could change with shifting winds at any time, so we are not exactly out of the woods (so to speak). The fire has burned right down to the east side of the Feather River all along the base of our ridge from Magalia almost to the south of town. Paradise is just up the steep canyon wall to the west. It's a "dirty burn" which means there is still alot of fuel to be consumed. The terrain is 5 stars, you really need a rope to get in there... impossible for fire fighting except from the air. The smoke has been so bad that each day there has been only a few hour window of opportunity for the helicopters to get into the area. They hit it with all they got when there's opportunity.
Guess there is some silver lining for all this: wonderful folks from everywhere offering to help; we've made some choices about what materially is important to us; cleared some debris in the yard that's been ignored for the sake of caching; there is a nice layer of ash everywhere, which we hear is good for the garden; might be some great fishing spots on the east side of the River opening up; our entire community seems to be stepping forward to help one another and show their appreciation to the firefighters; and a renewed appreciation for what we got and how easily it could all be gone. We got our share of politicians visiting too... now if they would all visit at the same time they might be able to blow hard and push the fire back on itself!! :o)
Today some of the evacs have been lifted or reduced in seriousness. As of now we are one block out of the precautionary evac zone. Some of the town's "immediate evac" (about 10,000) have been allowed to go home. The forcast calls for possiblity of lightning storms this weekend. That's how this most recent "complex" of fires began. If it comes with some serious rain that would be helpful, if not... look out! Once again we are at about 400 on air quality index today (that "particulates"/ cubic something). That's on a 500 scale! It's usually about 10-15 around here. 300 and above is hazardous to everyone. Guess it gets in the lungs and has no way to get back out, Yuck!
Again, we have never had so much appreciation for all the emergency folks, firefighters, police, and volunteers. Be sure to wave, tip the hat, or simply "thumbs up" when you see these folk. They are doing a tremendous job. There's just nothing like this to make one realize how special they are. We include all of you in that appreciation. Thank you again for offering to volunteer your time, homes and property, transportation, and for your thoughts and prayers for all that are being impacted by the fires.
Take care and cache happy, Rock&Crystal
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:30:43 -0700
Subject: Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [NUTS] Fires
I have monday thru fridays off so if anyone needs help, just call me and I can be down there in a few hours (monday-fri only). 530-310-0207. I have a Nissan Xterra that can fit a lot of items or a few kennels of animals.
--- On Fri, 7/11/08, dawn mateo <emsdawn21@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: dawn mateo <emsdawn21@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: **Possible_Spam* * Re: [NUTS] Fires
To: nuts_@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 10:25 PM
No....you can't get to quincy from 70 yet. There is still a fire on the hwy. You have to drive 36 all the way or go thru reno.
--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Steve Keely <keelyfam@psln. com> wrote:
From: Steve Keely <keelyfam@psln. com>
Subject: Re: **Possible_Spam* * Re: [NUTS] Fires
To: nuts_@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 7:17 AM
Don't know if you can get to Quincy, but we have 5 acres and could house
some trailers and tents. Smoke here is pretty bad also with some ash
falling, but we are not under threat of fire.
> Of course I am vonunteering a few relatives unsolisitaded but if need be
> we have some folks in Thermalito that can house a trailer or two and if
> you want I'm sure that some of RCGDS? folks can house a few more. It would
> be one heck of a commute (been there done that ;) but let us know if we
> can help.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: redhawk2853@ msn.com
> To: nuts_@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:46 am
> Subject: RE: [NUTS] Fires
> Hey Holly and everyone, thanks for the concern. Pretty much from Clark Rd
> east through Paradise is either under "immediate?threat" ? or
> "precautionary evacuation", that affects some 13,000 to 14,000 of us
> (about half the town).?Magalia is in the same boat with immediate threat
> east of Skyway. The firefighters have done an awesome job of holding the
> line down on the Feather River for days now, and for the most part, winds
> and weather have been with us, except for the smoke effect which has
> created "hazardous" (for everyone) air quality for weeks now. You can chew
> the air outside. Two days ago we awoke to a nuclear winter style of ash
> storm with white, gray and black soot everywhere. We had a rain of singed,
> to completely burned oak and mazanita leaves and pine needles. The cars,
> house and ground are covered with it.
> The threat to Paradise never really went away... and has been with us for
> one month today with the start of the Humboldt Fire. As soon as?that fire
> was out we had the Lightning Complex of fires here and in the Concow area.
> They fell off the news radar until the winds stirred and burned 50 house
> and structures in Concow 2 days ago. If the fire jumps Feather River that
> will be the "OH-Sh** line for us. It is two miles as the crow flies from
> here, but once it hits the bottom of our ridge there is nothing but dead
> and dry fuel from two years of drought and about an 80 degree slope
> straight into Paradise. They have fire crews stationed all along the
> streets off of Pentz Rd ready for a last stand if necessary. From there it
> is all homes and trees and brush across our town. We have firefighters
> from all over CA and the western states helping with this fight. God bless
> 'em!! The town has opened their hearts and homes to them and have
> demonstrated their appreciation all over town.
> We are on the west side of the evacuation grid. We are just off Clark Rd.?
> (you can visit "Night Eyes Too" on GC.com (no, don't go looking for it
> now!!) :o) to see our immediate area ). Cal Fire uses Clark Rd as the cut
> off boundary and we are west of that. The town of Paradise however,
> includes us in the precautionary evacuation since Tuesday. Depends on
> where you check the evac line is either 1) on Skyway to the west of us ,
> 2) at our back fence, or 3)?at Clark Rd, one block east. It's been
> confusing. We did get 2 reverse 911 calls on Monday, which was confusing
> since there was no message or answer when I tried to return the call?
> (caller ID). If it hadn't been for the callerID we wouldn't have known the
> "CityWatch Alert" had called.?We think they still have some bugs to work
> out on that system! Others in the area we know of are BluCruz who has been
> under precautionary evac since this whole thing began, Yar?Yar! does or
> did live up here, BluMotMot has her?animal hospital here, and DJTeam lives
> just west of Pentz. Who am I forgetting?? ?
> Not sure what others have done, but we have our trailer hooked up, semi
> packed, and ready to roll. PDA, GPS and geocoins are safe, as is the lap
> top (we all have our priorities, ya know). :o)? Think we'll pack?some
> cache containers as there will be?alot of replacement work after this is
> over. We've had several?invitation for places to stay if forced out...
> cachers are so awesome!! :o)
> We had hoped to have an event for perhaps a breakfast set for the NUTS
> group for next weekend, but the deadline came and went as we have been
> pretty distracted with the smoke and fires. Perhaps we can do something
> when things clear up. We have some special gifts for those NUTS
> who?volunteered and helped?with GWVI and we'd love to get those out to you
> (yep, they are safe, one of the first things we packed!).? ?:o)
> Please hold the good thought for?all in the fire areas. We will of course
> be monitoring things here in Paradise/Magalia as we can, and if anyone has
> loved ones up here and wants to know the evac status you can give us a
> call at 872-9456. We are on landline so if you can't get through I'm
> online for a short time. Transportation is limited and attached to a big
> old 24 foot trailer, which they don't want us driving around, but if there
> is an emergency with friends or family let us know if we can help!!
> Stay safe all and cache happy, Rock?
> To: nuts_@yahoogroups. com
> From: renoplummers@ nvbell.net
> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:08:01 +0000
> Subject: [NUTS] Fires
> Wow! I saw on the news (national news at that) last night that they
> have evacuated pretty much the whole town of Paradise, our thoughts
> are with you and I hope you are all ok!
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