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  • scottforde@gmail.com
    Apr 29, 2008
      It looks like the actual GW VI is not in Wheatland city limits after looking at the city limit map on page 8 at the this site. http://www.sacog.org/regionalfunding/fundingprograms/pdf/2008/03/Grant%20Apps/14_Wheatland_Bus%20Shelters.pdf

      Technically I don't think the city has any jurisdiction (but then again I'm not a lawyer so what do I know :P) and therefore you wouldn't need a city permit or even HAVE to ask the city but it would be a good gesture - maybe talk to the county sheriff first before the city police since they would be the responsible law enforcement official.


      On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:08 PM, <nelson143@...> wrote:

      In Chico, you are required to get permits from the city for hosting an event like this (even if it's just a notification of the event, at a minimum). You are looking at parking issues, traffic issues, etc.
      With time so short, you really do need to contact city officials now and let them know there is going to be an influx of several thousand people, how many you are expecting, and the nature of the event.
      DO NOT wait until a week before and drop the bomb on Wheatland about this event. The city should have been notified as soon as the event was planned, and kept updated thru the entire process.
      I'm not sure what you mean by you (personally, or the committee?) are "not in a position to ask permission, but paying a courtesy visit to inform them...". You absolutely DO need to ask permission of the city to host an event of this size.
      This could be bad, bad publicity for Groundspeak if you try to host this without the city's blessing and get shut down the day of the event. Who is gonna take the heat from the city officials when the city government shows up out of the loop and pissed?
      This is a great time for geocaching to make a good impression on the city...lets not ruin it by doing it wrong.
      Ed Nelson
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      From: nuts_@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nuts_@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Gary Hobgood
      Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:00 PM
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      Subject: Re: [RCGS-list]: RE: [NUTS] Of stash notes and contact information...

      The GW-6 planning committee has long recognized the importance of contacting the Wheatland Police Department.  Hynr and I are planning to make an "in person" contact with the Wheatland officials.  The timing of the contact as not yet been determine.  We are not in position of asking for permission of the Wheatland officials but paying a courtesy visit to inform them of significant influx of "odd behavior" during a three day period in the month of May.  Given what I am hearing about the outgoing Police Chief's impression of geocaching, it may be a tough sell.


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      From: Johnny Vegas <kdm4662@...>
      To: RCGS-list@...
      Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:30:31 PM
      Subject: RE: [RCGS-list]: RE: [NUTS] Of stash notes and contact information...

      "No doubt we should still make sure the city officials (Whomever they may be) are notified."
      Why? It is a legal function.

      Charles & Stephanie <Irvinehome@...> wrote:
      I read the Wheatland newspaper this afternoon and say that the current Chief of Police is retiring as of 21May08.
      No doubt we should still make sure the city officials (Whomever they may be) are notified.
      Has anyone gotten any more information?
      Perhaps from the committee for GW VI???
      From: Joy Bellman [mailto:joy.bellman@...]
      Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:15 AM
      To: RCGS-list@...
      Subject: Re: [RCGS-list]: RE: [NUTS] Of stash notes and contact information...
      How do you adopt a section of highway maybe if we do that as a group maybe if in Wheatland ther eis a sign like the post on the highways that says this section is adopted by... And it where to say River City Geocaching... then they can see Geocaching? Just an idea.
      On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Jenn Oates <wildoates56@...> wrote:

      Heiner Lieth <Heiner.Lieth@...> wrote:
      I am curios if there is anything other than rumor and speculation to this.

      Local law enforcement all over the state is going to see budget crises coming their way this year. GW6 is pumping tens of thousands of dollars into the Wheatland economy. Anything that infuses cash into the local economy is going to be looked on favorably by any government official.  Especially when the individuals in question who are sober, family folks. My suggestion is to adhere to the speed limit as you come or go to the event. Any bad experience in this department is purely economic common sense, not a hatred of geocaching.

      My guess (and that is what this is) is that silly caches, placed without proper clearance, skirting the Groundspeak rules (such as directly on public objects such as bells) are going to generate some concern by both geocachers and local law enforcement alike.  If that is all they know about geocaching, then you cannot blame them for thinking that geocachers are a bunch or renegades.  Maybe we should do something that attracts some positive attention for geocaching in Wheatland (e.g. a CITO event).  There are a few caches on the way to Wheatland where the roadside is a real dump; pretty disgraceful, really.

      Bishop's Pumpkin Ranch is a major economic force in Wheatland. They have this sort of traffic every weekend in the fall. So the GW6 event itself is not going to do anything that does not happen routinely in Wheatland in the fall. On top of that, we will be containing the event at the Ranch.  The amount of activities and over-all fun level are going to be extraordinary. There is no reason for anyone to leave the Ranch except to go home in the afternoon. Again: just like the pumpkin business in the fall.


      At 12:59 PM 4/28/2008, Johnny Vegas wrote:

      I got the same information from some cacher from yuba city. The local LEOa in wheatland do not like geocachers or geocaching.
      I will be intersting to see what happens with this event  GC1A6A6, this I am sure will get the attention of the local LEOs when they see people milling around in the street because they can not get into the event.
      Telling the local police this time could result in the event being stopped by the police chief.

      Charles & Stephanie <Irvinehome@...> wrote:
      As a side note the Chief of Police for Wheatland isn't too keen on caches in the first place…<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
      If he hasn't been notified as to GWVI by now we're in for a storm.


      Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:08 AM
      Subject: RE: [NUTS] Of stash notes and contact information...

      Most likely already done but just in case it slipped people's minds…

      Have all the local law enforcement agencies in and around the Wheatland area been updated about the influx of suspicious people sneaking around?

      Jim (geospyder)
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