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Re: [NH] Image Displays in FF But Not In MSIE

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  • loro
    ... Just recalled that older versions of gecko don t display those PS JPGs either, and it turns out that my K-Mel that is a little behind version-wise can t
    Message 1 of 16 , Jan 21, 2009
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      loro wrote:
      >Ray Shapp wrote:
      > > http://www.asterism.org/events/gifs/AAI.jpg
      >
      >The image is corrupt, or has some properties that make IE incapable
      >of displaying it.

      Just recalled that older versions of gecko don't display those PS
      JPGs either, and it turns out that my K-Mel that is a little behind
      version-wise can't show your image.

      Cary, you asked if Ray used RGB. Does PS embed colorspace information
      if you don't save for web?

      Lotta
    • Ray Shapp
      Hi Cary, That was it!!! The original graphic came to me as a 3.5MB RGB JPG file. I used Photoshop to reduce the file size, but I was not aware of and had never
      Message 2 of 16 , Jan 21, 2009
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        Hi Cary,

        That was it!!! The original graphic came to me as a 3.5MB RGB JPG file. I used
        Photoshop to reduce the file size, but I was not aware of and had never
        encountered any need for the "Save for Web" feature.

        I didn't ask the right question in my original posting, but you were able to
        anticipate the problem perfectly. Many thanks.

        Ray Shapp

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Cary Driscoll" <carydriscoll@...>
        To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:01 AM
        Subject: Re: [NH] Image Displays in FF But Not In MSIE


        > Are the images RGB? If you are using Photoshop, use save for web to save
        > images.
        >
      • Ray Shapp
        Hi Lotta, Up until now I would have said the same thing.
        Message 3 of 16 , Jan 21, 2009
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          Hi Lotta,

          <<A JPG should be a JPG, one would think.>>

          Up until now I would have said the same thing.



          <<Cary, you asked if Ray used RGB. Does PS embed colorspace information if you
          don't save for web?>>

          Photoshop must be saving something extra because that original 3.5MB file was
          reduced to 323 KB when I used "Save for Web & Devices...". At the same
          resolution, the file size was reduced to 578KB when I used simply "Save
          as...".

          BTW, I had tried many iterations of this problem before I made my original
          posting. Long file names with and without embedded spaces made no differences.
          I do agree, however, that embedded spaces can cause troubles.

          Thanks again to all who responded.

          Ray Shapp
        • Jeff Scism
          This is an HTML problem, not a NoteTab problem. Firefox forgives you but IE does not. Work on the HTML errors until they go away. ... This needs to be closed
          Message 4 of 16 , Jan 21, 2009
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            This is an HTML problem, not a NoteTab problem. Firefox forgives you but
            IE does not. Work on the HTML errors until they go away.

            > <link rev="made" href="mailto:not given">


            This needs to be closed with "</A>" preceded with the text that will be
            visable to the user.
            Probably the blank in the email address.

            > <img src="./events/gifs/AAI 60th Logo Medium.jpg" width="300"
            height="450" border="0" alt="60th anniversary logo"></p>

            Start with "img src="../" NOT just one "dot".


            Hope this works for you


            Blanks (in the src) again. Might have to be changed to "%20" or
            something. I always use the old DOS 8.3 naming convention (and all lower
            case) to avoid this stuff, myself.
          • Cary Driscoll
            RGB is what you need for the web. Photoshop can also save jpgs using CMYK which IE can t handle. ... From: Ray Shapp Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:58
            Message 5 of 16 , Jan 21, 2009
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              RGB is what you need for the web. Photoshop can also save jpgs using CMYK
              which IE can't handle.


              ----- Original Message -----
              From: "Ray Shapp"
              Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:58 PM
              Subject: Re: [NH] Image Displays in FF But Not In MSIE


              > Hi Lotta,
              >
              > <<A JPG should be a JPG, one would think.>>
              >
              > Up until now I would have said the same thing.
              >
              >
              >
              > <<Cary, you asked if Ray used RGB. Does PS embed colorspace information if
              > you
              > don't save for web?>>
            • Michael Rawley
              Hi Ray, Many of the points have already been covered, but here are a few more: Title==Should be informative and snappy. It is the name under which a user
              Message 6 of 16 , Jan 22, 2009
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                Hi Ray,

                Many of the points have already been covered, but here are a few more:

                Title==Should be informative and snappy. It is the name under which a
                user saves your web page. Make it informative when the user sees it in
                his/her folder. Your page appears to be a template for other pages.

                Meta (description and keywords)== Either fill these in or leave out
                altogether. Search engine robots use these to find out what your web
                site is about, so they have their uses.

                Body tag== These attributes are better put into a cascading style sheet.
                See www.normist.co.uk for a web authoring course.

                img== the url of your logo is wrong. If you mean to up one folder level.
                use '../' Note the two dots. I agree with what has been said about
                spaces. If you must make it look as though there are spaces, use the
                underscore character like_this.

                Paragraph head== is not part of a paragraph. Use <h2></h2> to <h6><?h6>

                br and hr tags== should be <br /> and <hr /> . They are a self-closing
                tags, called empty tags, as is the img tag!

                small tag== I must admit that I thought this was deprecated, but it is
                quite correct.

                Hope these thoughts help.

                Regards

                Michael Rawley.
              • Don - HtmlFixIt.com
                In addition to hr and br being self closing, img is also a self closing tag that should end with /
                Message 7 of 16 , Jan 22, 2009
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                  In addition to hr and br being self closing, img is also a self closing
                  tag that should end with />
                  >> <img src="./events/gifs/AAI 60th Logo Medium.jpg" width="300"
                  > height="450" border="0" alt="60th anniversary logo"></p>
                  >
                • loro
                  ... Only if you write XHTML.. ... Lotta
                  Message 8 of 16 , Jan 22, 2009
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                    Don wrote:
                    >In addition to hr and br being self closing, img is also a self closing
                    >tag that should end with />
                    > >> <img src="./events/gifs/AAI 60th Logo Medium.jpg" width="300"
                    > > height="450" border="0" alt="60th anniversary logo"></p>

                    Only if you write XHTML..

                    Ray wrote:
                    >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
                    >>"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

                    Lotta
                  • Alec Burgess
                    Bert Byfield (bbyfield@caravelabooks.com) wrote (in part) (on ... Ray: One more ... being pretty much a novice at HTML myself. In standard library HTML I used
                    Message 9 of 16 , Jan 22, 2009
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                      Bert Byfield (bbyfield@...) wrote (in part) (on
                      2009-01-21 at 23:49):
                      > <img src="./events/gifs/AAI 60th Logo Medium.jpg" width="300"
                      > height="450"
                      > > border="0" alt="60th anniversary logo"></p>
                      >
                      > Blanks (in the src) again. Might have to be changed to "%20" or
                      > something. I always use the old DOS 8.3 naming convention (and all
                      > lower
                      > case) to avoid this stuff, myself.

                      Ray: One more ... being pretty much a novice at HTML myself.

                      In standard library HTML I used Image wizard
                      The html file I was working with was: D:\Temp\NoName01.html (a copy of
                      the first source you posted)
                      I pasted file name in the wizard as: D:\Temp\picswork\Flat\Billie Piper
                      01.jpg leaving remainder of fields blank.
                      and it generated: <img src="picswork/flat/billie%20piper%2001.jpg"
                      width="340" height="450" border="0">
                      which works :-)

                      Note that it figured out that folder picswork is in the same folder as
                      the HTML file (I would have guessed that either ./ or ../ was needed but
                      apparently not?) and translated spaces in file name to %20 as required.

                      Eric and Jody do/did good work :-)
                      It appears the "heavy lifting" for the filename changes is being done
                      by: ^!InsertWizardHtml though its documentation doesn't say anything
                      about this translation.

                      Cary guessed the image-file problem which I might never have got!

                      --
                      Regards ... Alec (buralex@gmail & WinLiveMess - alec.m.burgess@skype)




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                    • Ray Shapp
                      To All, Alec said, Cary guessed the image-file problem which I might never have got! . That s exactly correct. Cary also correctly supplied the solution to my
                      Message 10 of 16 , Jan 23, 2009
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                        To All,

                        Alec said, "Cary guessed the image-file problem which I might never have
                        got!". That's exactly correct. Cary also correctly supplied the solution to my
                        problem by alerting me to the "Save for Web & Devices" function in Photoshop.

                        All the comments about blanks spaces in file name or length of file name or
                        the tags in the code snippet are well-intentioned, but they miss the point.
                        That small web page is what NoteTab itself generates when one uses the HTML
                        template in the HTML clip library supplied with NT Pro (I'm using version
                        5.7b).

                        Thanks to all who responded.

                        Ray Shapp
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