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  • algeddis
    Hi....I m new here and while I saw a few old relevant posts, I did not see any resolution. My camera, a common Canon digital Elph, records images as
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      Hi....I'm new here and while I saw a few old relevant posts, I did not
      see any resolution. My camera, a common Canon digital Elph, records
      images as IMG_106.JPG, IMG_107.JPG and so on. When I use NoteTab Lite
      5.6 to insert an image into a web page, I get something like this:
      <IMG SRC="images/img_0159.jpg" WIDTH="515" HEIGHT="296" ALT="">

      Note that IMG_0159.JPG was converted by NoteTab to img_0159.jpg

      I put a sample page here:
      http://www.cynicus.org/Test_Output3/

      While the image will preview locally in IE of FFx, it will NOT when I
      upload to the web as .JPG is not the same as .jpg. Clearly I can rename
      the image or edit the code, but in either case I'm doing extra work. It
      would seem there should be some option to handle this in NoteTab, but
      darn if I can find it. Is NoteTab Pro different? Many thanks.
    • loro
      ... Welcome. :-) Yes, you can turn that off. Look at the HTML Files tab in Options. Uncheck the box labeled Crete Lowercase URLs . I ve never understood the
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        algeddis wrote:
        >Hi....I'm new here and while I saw a few old relevant posts, I did not
        >see any resolution. My camera, a common Canon digital Elph, records
        >images as IMG_106.JPG, IMG_107.JPG and so on. When I use NoteTab Lite
        >5.6 to insert an image into a web page, I get something like this:
        ><IMG SRC="images/img_0159.jpg" WIDTH="515" HEIGHT="296" ALT="">
        >
        >Note that IMG_0159.JPG was converted by NoteTab to img_0159.jpg

        Welcome. :-) Yes, you can turn that off. Look at the HTML Files tab
        in Options. Uncheck the box labeled "Crete Lowercase URLs". I've
        never understood the purpose of that option myself. Who would want to
        use it and why?

        Lotta
      • Dave
        Hi the best I can do a the moment is when you load to the web the images must be lower case in most cases. THANKYOU DAVE M ... From: algeddis
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          Hi
          the best I can do a the moment is when you load to the web the images must
          be lower case in most cases.
          THANKYOU DAVE M

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "algeddis" <algeddis@...>
          To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 5:25 PM
          Subject: [NH] case requirements for JPG


          > Hi....I'm new here and while I saw a few old relevant posts, I did not
          > see any resolution. My camera, a common Canon digital Elph, records
          > images as IMG_106.JPG, IMG_107.JPG and so on. When I use NoteTab Lite
          > 5.6 to insert an image into a web page, I get something like this:
          > <IMG SRC="images/img_0159.jpg" WIDTH="515" HEIGHT="296" ALT="">
          >
          > Note that IMG_0159.JPG was converted by NoteTab to img_0159.jpg
          >
          > I put a sample page here:
          > http://www.cynicus.org/Test_Output3/
          >
          > While the image will preview locally in IE of FFx, it will NOT when I
          > upload to the web as .JPG is not the same as .jpg. Clearly I can rename
          > the image or edit the code, but in either case I'm doing extra work. It
          > would seem there should be some option to handle this in NoteTab, but
          > darn if I can find it. Is NoteTab Pro different? Many thanks.
          >
          >
          > ------------------------------------
          >
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          > NoteTab website: http://www.notetab.com/
          > NoteTab Discussion Lists: http://www.notetab.com/groups.php
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        • Don - HtmlFixIt.com
          ... That would be under view options
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            loro wrote:
            > algeddis wrote:
            >> Hi....I'm new here and while I saw a few old relevant posts, I did not
            >> see any resolution. My camera, a common Canon digital Elph, records
            >> images as IMG_106.JPG, IMG_107.JPG and so on. When I use NoteTab Lite
            >> 5.6 to insert an image into a web page, I get something like this:
            >> <IMG SRC="images/img_0159.jpg" WIDTH="515" HEIGHT="296" ALT="">
            >>
            >> Note that IMG_0159.JPG was converted by NoteTab to img_0159.jpg
            >
            > Welcome. :-) Yes, you can turn that off. Look at the HTML Files tab
            > in Options. Uncheck the box labeled "Crete Lowercase URLs". I've
            > never understood the purpose of that option myself. Who would want to
            > use it and why?

            That would be under view > options
          • Jeff Scism
            ... A lot of FTP clients have the option of forcing lowercase on file names as they transfer. (For the file names as stored on the server), It sounds as if you
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              algeddis wrote:
              >
              > Hi....I'm new here and while I saw a few old relevant posts, I did not
              > see any resolution. My camera, a common Canon digital Elph, records
              > images as IMG_106.JPG, IMG_107.JPG and so on. When I use NoteTab Lite
              > 5.6 to insert an image into a web page, I get something like this:
              > <IMG SRC="images/img_0159.jpg" WIDTH="515" HEIGHT="296" ALT="">
              >
              > Note that IMG_0159.JPG was converted by NoteTab to img_0159.jpg
              >
              > I put a sample page here:
              > http://www.cynicus.org/Test_Output3/
              > <http://www.cynicus.org/Test_Output3/>
              >
              > While the image will preview locally in IE of FFx, it will NOT when I
              > upload to the web as .JPG is not the same as .jpg. Clearly I can rename
              > the image or edit the code, but in either case I'm doing extra work. It
              > would seem there should be some option to handle this in NoteTab, but
              > darn if I can find it. Is NoteTab Pro different? Many thanks.
              >


              A lot of FTP clients have the option of forcing lowercase on file names
              as they transfer. (For the file names as stored on the server),

              It sounds as if you are having a mismatch with the file name called in
              the doc and the file name as stored.
              There are a couple of ways to address this, check your FTP program to
              see if it is forcing lower case file names, OR by changing all your
              linked out doc calls to lower case by replace commands done on the
              directories ( CTRL+D will work on Std and Pro, I think, not sure about
              Lite.)

              (do a Search and replace of JPG >> jpg) (case sensitive)

              Jeff
            • Jeff Scism
              ... A lot of FTP clients force lower case, and if that is the case, then you want it to make lower case file names. Jeff
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                loro wrote:
                >
                > algeddis wrote:
                > >Hi....I'm new here and while I saw a few old relevant posts, I did not
                > >see any resolution. My camera, a common Canon digital Elph, records
                > >images as IMG_106.JPG, IMG_107.JPG and so on. When I use NoteTab Lite
                > >5.6 to insert an image into a web page, I get something like this:
                > ><IMG SRC="images/img_0159.jpg" WIDTH="515" HEIGHT="296" ALT="">
                > >
                > >Note that IMG_0159.JPG was converted by NoteTab to img_0159.jpg
                >
                > Welcome. :-) Yes, you can turn that off. Look at the HTML Files tab
                > in Options. Uncheck the box labeled "Crete Lowercase URLs". I've
                > never understood the purpose of that option myself. Who would want to
                > use it and why?
                >
                > Lotta
                >
                A lot of FTP clients force lower case, and if that is the case, then you
                want it to make lower case file names.

                Jeff
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              • algeddis
                Thanks everyone for the prompt and helpful responses. Turning off the Create Lower Case URLs did the trick for me and my mismatched camera. It appears it is
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                  Thanks everyone for the prompt and helpful responses. Turning off the
                  "Create Lower Case URLs" did the trick for me and my mismatched
                  camera. It appears it is checked ON by default. I did a test page at:
                  http://www.cynicus.org/Test_Output4/
                  (I will take it down eventually)

                  Basically to summarize everyone elses replies that helped me and help
                  others who may follow:

                  NoteTab has a check box at View>Options>HTML files that says "create
                  lower case URLs." This is apparently checked by default. The issue is
                  a problem if 1) your digital camera provides file names in CAPS, 2)
                  you insert images via NoteTab into a Web Page, 3) your FTP does NOT
                  force lower case (.jpg) as your web page will then be looking for
                  IMG_111.JPG and will NOT find it because it will be img_111.jpg

                  The problem can be a real problem insofar as it seems locally IE and
                  FFx will both accept and display the mismatched .jpg and .JPG so you
                  only find out AFTER you have uploaded your pages and suddenly find
                  them with out images!
                • sisterscape
                  It is likely that your server uses Linux and Linux files are case sensitive. Windows couldn t care less. Lower case is used for xhtml so depending on your
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                    It is likely that your server uses Linux and Linux files are case
                    sensitive. Windows couldn't care less.

                    Lower case is used for xhtml so depending on your DOCTYPE upper case
                    could be a no-no. Personally, I use lower case for everything and find
                    uppercase quite nasty to look at.

                    Isn't there a way to change the case setting in your camera options?

                    Sister


                    --- algeddis <algeddis@...> wrote:

                    > Thanks everyone for the prompt and helpful responses. Turning off the
                    > "Create Lower Case URLs" did the trick for me and my mismatched
                    > camera. It appears it is checked ON by default. I did a test page at:
                    > http://www.cynicus.org/Test_Output4/
                    > (I will take it down eventually)
                    >
                    > Basically to summarize everyone elses replies that helped me and help
                    > others who may follow:
                    >
                    > NoteTab has a check box at View>Options>HTML files that says "create
                    > lower case URLs." This is apparently checked by default. The issue is
                    > a problem if 1) your digital camera provides file names in CAPS, 2)
                    > you insert images via NoteTab into a Web Page, 3) your FTP does NOT
                    > force lower case (.jpg) as your web page will then be looking for
                    > IMG_111.JPG and will NOT find it because it will be img_111.jpg
                    >
                    > The problem can be a real problem insofar as it seems locally IE and
                    > FFx will both accept and display the mismatched .jpg and .JPG so you
                    > only find out AFTER you have uploaded your pages and suddenly find
                    > them with out images!
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > ------------------------------------
                    >
                    > Fookes Software: http://www.fookes.com/
                    > NoteTab website: http://www.notetab.com/
                    > NoteTab Discussion Lists: http://www.notetab.com/groups.php
                    >
                    > ***
                    > Yahoo! Groups Links
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                  • hsavage
                    ... I agree with Sister about looking at uppercase, UGLY, a page full of uppercase is more difficult for me to read and my server requires all links and
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                      sisterscape wrote:
                      > It is likely that your server uses Linux and Linux files are case
                      > sensitive. Windows couldn't care less.
                      >
                      > Lower case is used for xhtml so depending on your DOCTYPE upper case
                      > could be a no-no. Personally, I use lower case for everything and find
                      > uppercase quite nasty to look at.
                      >
                      > Isn't there a way to change the case setting in your camera options?
                      >
                      > Sister

                      I agree with Sister about looking at uppercase, UGLY, a page full of
                      uppercase is more difficult for me to read and my server requires all
                      links and filenames be of the same case.

                      I never upload a picture straight out of the camera without custom
                      processing and my preferred processor is XnView, available at,
                      http://www.xnview.com/

                      XnView renames, resizes, edits photos and copies them to a folder of
                      your choice.

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                    • algeddis
                      I took yours and Sister s suggestion and went to both Canon Support and a popular photography forum. So far it does not appear possible to change in camera
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                        I took yours and Sister's suggestion and went to both Canon Support
                        and a popular photography forum. So far it does not appear possible to
                        change "in camera" the file naming convention-my Canon SD1000 uses
                        IMG_xxx.JPG and not img_xxx.jpg Based on a limited check, UPPER CASE
                        is not just considered "ugly," but lower case is considered more the
                        standard. (Probably why NoteTab defaults it to lower case)

                        Thanks for the suggestion on xn which I'll check out although I'm
                        pretty happy with Irfanview (http://www.irfanview.com). I also usually
                        use Jalbum (http://www.jalbum.net) to produce web photo albums which
                        takes care of the case sensitive issue for large photo collections.
                        Both are very nice freeware programs.

                        At least I'm aware of the problem now. I made a simple web page the
                        other day with three images and nothing showed up-drove me nuts until
                        I finally saw the case issue and which then sent me here.
                      • GilaMountainDulcimers.com
                        My camera also saves the images with upper case names and generic numbers. I always rename my images after optimizing them -- it is very less confusing to
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                          My camera also saves the images with upper case names and generic numbers. I always rename my images after optimizing them -- it is very less confusing to work with a picture named "my-first-puppy.jpg" rather than M1009857.JPG. How do you remember what it is??? And I agree with Sister. You will find that a lot of servers will not recognize an file in upper case. I use lower case for EVERYTHING.

                          Hugs,
                          Kerry Coates in New Mexico
                          http://www.network-marketing-mlm-business.com
                          http://www.Amazing-Health-Products.com
                          http://www.GilaMountainDulcimers.com
                          http://www.GilaMountainDulcimers.com/pekes-family.htm




                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: algeddis
                          To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:25 AM
                          Subject: [NH] case requirements for JPG


                          Hi....I'm new here and while I saw a few old relevant posts, I did not
                          see any resolution. My camera, a common Canon digital Elph, records
                          images as IMG_106.JPG, IMG_107.JPG and so on. When I use NoteTab Lite
                          5.6 to insert an image into a web page, I get something like this:
                          <IMG SRC="images/img_0159.jpg" WIDTH="515" HEIGHT="296" ALT="">

                          Note that IMG_0159.JPG was converted by NoteTab to img_0159.jpg

                          I put a sample page here:
                          http://www.cynicus.org/Test_Output3/

                          While the image will preview locally in IE of FFx, it will NOT when I
                          upload to the web as .JPG is not the same as .jpg. Clearly I can rename
                          the image or edit the code, but in either case I'm doing extra work. It
                          would seem there should be some option to handle this in NoteTab, but
                          darn if I can find it. Is NoteTab Pro different? Many thanks.





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                        • sisterscape
                          ... Linux does not have anything against use of upper case in file names per se. It s just that the case of the file name being called in the url must match
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                            --- "GilaMountainDulcimers.com" <kerry@...>
                            wrote:
                            >
                            > You will find that a lot of servers will not
                            > recognize an file in upper case. I use lower case for EVERYTHING.
                            >

                            Linux does not have anything against use of upper case in file names
                            per se. It's just that the case of the file name being called in the
                            url must match EXACTLY - any combination of upper and/or lower - or it
                            gets ignored.
                          • Axel Berger
                            ... No, he (or she? Algeddis sounds female) won t because it s wrong. What is correct is that MY.IMG and my.img (and My.Img) are two (three) different names
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                              "GilaMountainDulcimers.com" wrote:
                              > You will find that a lot of servers will not recognize an file in
                              > upper case. I use lower case for EVERYTHING.

                              No, he (or she? Algeddis sounds female) won't because it's wrong. What
                              is correct is that MY.IMG and my.img (and My.Img) are two (three)
                              different names and possibly files on a case sensitive system. If you
                              use a NoteTab wizard for your links, you avoid typing errors and include
                              files exactly as they are and as you upload them (including typoes) so
                              the server will always find them.

                              As your visitors may want want to write down URLs and type them, it is
                              not a good idea to be inconsistent or illogical in your naming, and I
                              agree that, although I don't use it myself, all lowercase is a good way
                              to achieve that, but it's not the only way.

                              And I'd like to suggest that munging user's input except where mandated,
                              like %20 and %2C in URLs, is not the best way to set up the defaults in
                              any program. I never noticed that myself. The first thing I do with
                              every program on using it for the first time is open the preferences or
                              setup and go through every single item. Quite apart from making it
                              conform to how my other programs behave I find it a good way to get an
                              overview of the whole thing.

                              Axel
                            • Don - HtmlFixIt.com
                              ... Dang and I was looking for hot babes, but that wasn t what I meant ;-) You need to be case matched when you get to a (U)nix server between file names and
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                                algeddis wrote:
                                > Thanks everyone for the prompt and helpful responses. Turning off the
                                > "Create Lower Case URLs" did the trick for me and my mismatched
                                > camera. It appears it is checked ON by default. I did a test page at:
                                > http://www.cynicus.org/Test_Output4/
                                > (I will take it down eventually)
                                >

                                Dang and I was looking for hot babes, but that wasn't what I meant ;-)

                                You need to be case matched when you get to a (U)nix server between file
                                names and links. I think good form suggest to use lower case all of the
                                time and no spaces or funny characters. But it will typically work if
                                it is matched on both ends.

                                I use a rename utility to make all files on my machine lower case and
                                without spaces and so forth and that helps then as well. But you don't
                                have to.
                              • loro
                                ... That s for element and attribute names. XHTML can t force lower case on things it doesn t have control over. A lower case link to
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                                  sisterscape wrote:
                                  >Lower case is used for xhtml so depending on your DOCTYPE upper case
                                  >could be a no-no.

                                  That's for element and attribute names. XHTML can't force lower case
                                  on things it doesn't have control over. A lower case link
                                  to http://example.com/mYCaMeLcAsEpAge/ world result in a 404 on most servers.

                                  Still wondering who would use that setting and for what reason.

                                  Lotta
                                • Axel Berger
                                  ... Well, spaces are forbidden or at least a very bad idea and I find MyCamelCasePage much more legible than mycamelcasepage. I always use camelcase when
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                                    loro wrote:
                                    > Still wondering who would use that setting and for what reason.

                                    Well, spaces are forbidden or at least a very bad idea and I find
                                    MyCamelCasePage much more legible than mycamelcasepage. I always use
                                    camelcase when needing to abbreviate without Spaces. As a case in
                                    point this is the link to an article I've scanned
                                    (don't try, it's password protected):
                                    http://axel.berger-odenthal.de/Scans/Zeitschrift/JArchSci/33/039-D%c3%bcrrw%c3%a4chter.pdf

                                    And yes, umlauts are not ideal either.

                                    Axel
                                  • Don - HtmlFixIt.com
                                    ... Actually if you use an underscore then google will actually find and index the words ...
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                                      Axel Berger wrote:
                                      > loro wrote:
                                      >> Still wondering who would use that setting and for what reason.
                                      >
                                      > Well, spaces are forbidden or at least a very bad idea and I find
                                      > MyCamelCasePage much more legible than mycamelcasepage. I always use
                                      > camelcase when needing to abbreviate without Spaces. As a case in
                                      > point this is the link to an article I've scanned
                                      > (don't try, it's password protected):
                                      > http://axel.berger-odenthal.de/Scans/Zeitschrift/JArchSci/33/039-D%c3%bcrrw%c3%a4chter.pdf
                                      >
                                      > And yes, umlauts are not ideal either.
                                      >
                                      > Axel
                                      >
                                      Actually if you use an underscore then google will actually find and
                                      index the words ...
                                    • loro
                                      ... I meant who d use that Notetab setting, to force lowercase URLs. Not that it matters, I m just curious by nature. ;-) Lotta
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                                        Axel Berger wrote:
                                        >loro wrote:
                                        > > Still wondering who would use that setting and for what reason.
                                        >
                                        >Well, spaces are forbidden or at least a very bad idea and I find
                                        >MyCamelCasePage much more legible than mycamelcasepage.

                                        I meant who'd use that Notetab setting, to force lowercase URLs. Not
                                        that it matters, I'm just curious by nature. ;-)

                                        Lotta
                                      • Don - HtmlFixIt.com
                                        ... I sometimes use it to force lowercase url s because then I use my ftp program to make sure the files uploaded are lower case.
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                                          loro wrote:
                                          > Axel Berger wrote:
                                          >> loro wrote:
                                          >>> Still wondering who would use that setting and for what reason.
                                          >> Well, spaces are forbidden or at least a very bad idea and I find
                                          >> MyCamelCasePage much more legible than mycamelcasepage.
                                          >
                                          > I meant who'd use that Notetab setting, to force lowercase URLs. Not
                                          > that it matters, I'm just curious by nature. ;-)
                                          >
                                          > Lotta
                                          >
                                          I sometimes use it to force lowercase url's because then I use my ftp
                                          program to make sure the files uploaded are lower case.
                                        • Marcelo de Castro Bastos
                                          ... Yeah, it goes like this: - Consistency is good. Different cases are bad. - The same file/pic/page can be called from a lot of different places. - It s
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                                            Interviewed by CNN on 26/5/2008 11:28, Don - HtmlFixIt.com told the world:
                                            > loro wrote:
                                            >
                                            >> Axel Berger wrote:
                                            >> I meant who'd use that Notetab setting, to force lowercase URLs. Not
                                            >> that it matters, I'm just curious by nature. ;-)
                                            >>
                                            >>
                                            >>
                                            > I sometimes use it to force lowercase url's because then I use my ftp
                                            > program to make sure the files uploaded are lower case.
                                            >
                                            >
                                            Yeah, it goes like this:

                                            - Consistency is good. Different cases are bad.
                                            - The same file/pic/page can be called from a lot of different places.
                                            - It's easier to rename the one file when there's a problem than search
                                            through all the HTML pages to fix the case of the URL.
                                            - Also, you can use the FTP utility to force all files into lowercase.
                                            - Finally, a point that should not be overlooked, there's the matter of
                                            people keying in the URL by hand in their browsers. Nine times out of
                                            ten, they will write it all in lowercase. Putting a few uppercase
                                            letters in the middle will only make the job harder.

                                            In the different matter of accented/international characters and
                                            spaces... they aren't illegal per se, but you have to be careful in
                                            encoding them correctly.

                                            Marcelo

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                                          • Axel Berger
                                            ... Perhaps it s a case of me being German and more used to capitals in words. Or perhaps I m just nuts, but I prefer the odd capital here and there. But then
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                                              Marcelo de Castro Bastos wrote:
                                              > Nine times out of ten, they will write it all in lowercase.

                                              Perhaps it's a case of me being German and more used to capitals in
                                              words. Or perhaps I'm just nuts, but I prefer the odd capital here
                                              and there.

                                              But then I wouldn't want to type long URLs anyway. I prefer being
                                              given them as links so one click leads to direct access, but where
                                              typing is involved I prefer well done menues to get there - there
                                              are just too many ways to get them wrong.

                                              Axel
                                            • Scott Fordin
                                              ... FWIW, I use all lowercase URLs and file names for several reasons: 1. I m an HTML coder from the ur-days, and using what was once known as Netscape
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                                                loro wrote:
                                                > I meant who'd use that Notetab setting, to force lowercase URLs. Not
                                                > that it matters, I'm just curious by nature. ;-)

                                                FWIW, I use all lowercase URLs and file names for several reasons:

                                                1. I'm an HTML coder from the ur-days, and using what was once
                                                known as "Netscape compatible" links -- that is, all lowercase
                                                -- is a habit.

                                                2. Consistency is good; one rule, no confusion, no worries. My
                                                code works consistently on any server platform.

                                                3. It's easier to type all lowercase; no Shift combination or
                                                Caps Lock.

                                                4. I spend a good part of my life on Solaris and Linux machines,
                                                so this whole case thing is deeply ingrained. I don't use
                                                uppercase letters unless there's a darn good reason to.

                                                5. I'm anal retentive or arguably OCD, and I simply like how
                                                lowercase looks compared to mixed case or uppercase. I
                                                figure life is stressful enough, so I don't need my code
                                                shouting at me.

                                                I also scrupulously avoid the use of spaces in file names and URLs.
                                                Instead of spaces, I use underscores. Finally, I try to use taxonomic
                                                naming schemes, so it's easy to figure out what should be where and
                                                when something is off.

                                                Just one writer's opinion,

                                                Scott
                                              • GilaMountainDulcimers.com
                                                Yes, Scott. I ALWAYS use lower case in all my file names and URLs. Sometimes (like in my signature below) I will type the URL with the first letter in
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                                                  Yes, Scott. I ALWAYS use lower case in all my file names and URLs. Sometimes (like in my signature below) I will type the URL with the first letter in upper-case for in emails or hardcopy letters -- Some of my URLs are long and so it breaks it up -- that is the only reason. Otherwise, when I am composing or creating a website or file, it is all lower case. I use dashes instead of underscores because links are always underlined and some folks miss the underscores -- looks like part of the link's underscore. But I agree with you completely for all your reasons for using lower case, especially the one about consistency -- one rule, no worries. I never have to double-check myself.

                                                  Hugs,
                                                  Kerry Coates in New Mexico
                                                  http://www.network-marketing-mlm-business.com
                                                  http://www.Amazing-Health-Products.com
                                                  http://www.GilaMountainDulcimers.com
                                                  http://www.GilaMountainDulcimers.com/pekes-family.htm




                                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                                  From: Scott Fordin
                                                  To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com
                                                  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 9:07 PM
                                                  Subject: Re: [NH] case requirements for JPG


                                                  loro wrote:
                                                  > I meant who'd use that Notetab setting, to force lowercase URLs. Not
                                                  > that it matters, I'm just curious by nature. ;-)

                                                  FWIW, I use all lowercase URLs and file names for several reasons:

                                                  1. I'm an HTML coder from the ur-days, and using what was once
                                                  known as "Netscape compatible" links -- that is, all lowercase
                                                  -- is a habit.

                                                  2. Consistency is good; one rule, no confusion, no worries. My
                                                  code works consistently on any server platform.

                                                  3. It's easier to type all lowercase; no Shift combination or
                                                  Caps Lock.

                                                  4. I spend a good part of my life on Solaris and Linux machines,
                                                  so this whole case thing is deeply ingrained. I don't use
                                                  uppercase letters unless there's a darn good reason to.

                                                  5. I'm anal retentive or arguably OCD, and I simply like how
                                                  lowercase looks compared to mixed case or uppercase. I
                                                  figure life is stressful enough, so I don't need my code
                                                  shouting at me.

                                                  I also scrupulously avoid the use of spaces in file names and URLs.
                                                  Instead of spaces, I use underscores. Finally, I try to use taxonomic
                                                  naming schemes, so it's easy to figure out what should be where and
                                                  when something is off.

                                                  Just one writer's opinion,

                                                  Scott




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                                                • loro
                                                  ... Yes, I understand that. It s the usefulness of that setting i Notetab I don t understand. Wouldn t it be easier to name the images in lowercase to start
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                                                    Scott Fordin wrote:
                                                    >loro wrote:
                                                    > > I meant who'd use that Notetab setting, to force lowercase URLs. Not
                                                    > > that it matters, I'm just curious by nature. ;-)
                                                    >
                                                    >FWIW, I use all lowercase URLs and file names for several reasons:

                                                    Yes, I understand that. It's the usefulness of that setting i Notetab
                                                    I don't understand. Wouldn't it be easier to name the images in
                                                    lowercase to start with, or rename them? Especially since algeddis
                                                    says this case conversion is on by default it's bound to cause
                                                    problems, as we've just seen. I guess everything that forces this or
                                                    that seems counterproductive to me, since I would have to change the
                                                    setting every time I wanted it differently. Anyway, it doesn't
                                                    matter. Just curious, as said.

                                                    BTW I find uppercase (on a case sensitive system) very useful.
                                                    Personably I use it for example for old copies of files I want to
                                                    save a while (INDEX.html). Sometimes just for something I want to
                                                    stand out that shouldn't be on the web (NOTES, TODO). But that's
                                                    another matter. ;-)

                                                    Lotta
                                                  • Eric Fookes
                                                    Hi Lotta, The reason for that option is that many FTP programs have an option to upload files and automatically set their to lowercase during the process. It s
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                                                      Hi Lotta,

                                                      The reason for that option is that many FTP programs have an option to
                                                      upload files and automatically set their to lowercase during the
                                                      process. It's a feature I used a lot in the past. Setting that option in
                                                      NoteTab simply ensure that links in your Web pages will work if you're
                                                      uploading to a case-sensitive Web server.

                                                      --
                                                      Regards,

                                                      Eric Fookes
                                                      http://www.fookes.com/


                                                      loro wrote:
                                                      > Scott Fordin wrote:
                                                      >> loro wrote:
                                                      >>> I meant who'd use that Notetab setting, to force lowercase URLs. Not
                                                      >>> that it matters, I'm just curious by nature. ;-)
                                                      >> FWIW, I use all lowercase URLs and file names for several reasons:
                                                      >
                                                      > Yes, I understand that. It's the usefulness of that setting i Notetab
                                                      > I don't understand. Wouldn't it be easier to name the images in
                                                      > lowercase to start with, or rename them? Especially since algeddis
                                                      > says this case conversion is on by default it's bound to cause
                                                      > problems, as we've just seen. I guess everything that forces this or
                                                      > that seems counterproductive to me, since I would have to change the
                                                      > setting every time I wanted it differently. Anyway, it doesn't
                                                      > matter. Just curious, as said.
                                                      >
                                                      > BTW I find uppercase (on a case sensitive system) very useful.
                                                      > Personably I use it for example for old copies of files I want to
                                                      > save a while (INDEX.html). Sometimes just for something I want to
                                                      > stand out that shouldn't be on the web (NOTES, TODO). But that's
                                                      > another matter. ;-)
                                                      >
                                                      > Lotta
                                                    • Mike Breiding
                                                      Greetings, This link: http://mbreiding.us/2008/dumpsters-on-reid-street/index.html#slip works in IE 6 and Opera, but not FF. In other words - they URL opens to
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                                                        Greetings,
                                                        This link:
                                                        http://mbreiding.us/2008/dumpsters-on-reid-street/index.html#slip

                                                        works in IE 6 and Opera, but not FF.
                                                        In other words - they URL opens to the bottom of the page where this
                                                        code is:

                                                        ...<...title="Slip on Falling Run Road" id="#slip" name="#slip">...

                                                        What am I missing ?

                                                        Thanks,
                                                        -Mike
                                                        www.EpicRoadTrips.us
                                                      • Mike Breiding
                                                        Solved! Removed the # from the ID name. Duh... -mb ============================ Greetings, This link:
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                                                          Solved!
                                                          Removed the "#" from the ID name.
                                                          Duh...
                                                          -mb
                                                          ============================
                                                          Greetings,
                                                          This link:
                                                          http://mbreiding.us/2008/dumpsters-on-reid-street/index.html#slip

                                                          works in IE 6 and Opera, but not FF.
                                                          In other words - they URL opens to the bottom of the page where this
                                                          code is:

                                                          ...<...title="Slip on Falling Run Road" id="#slip" name="#slip">...

                                                          What am I missing ?

                                                          Thanks,
                                                          -Mike
                                                          www.EpicRoadTrips.us
                                                        • Axel Berger
                                                          ... Leave out the # . Obviously IE and Opera silently corrct your mistake while FF is more fussy but correct. Axel
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                                                            Mike Breiding wrote:
                                                            > ...<...title="Slip on Falling Run Road" id="#slip" name="#slip">...
                                                            > What am I missing ?

                                                            Leave out the "#". Obviously IE and Opera silently corrct your
                                                            mistake while FF is more fussy but correct.

                                                            Axel
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