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  • Bruce Meyers
    Lotta, No, I can t today. It may be up soon. I write the pages but someone else has to use the FTP to put them up. I am actually embarrassed to have people
    Message 1 of 19 , May 30, 2007
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      Lotta,
      No, I can't today. It may be up soon. I write the pages but someone else has to use the FTP to put them up. I am actually embarrassed to have people look at this page, but I
      was sent a file written in Word and had to convert it so it could be seen at the site. I don't understand most of the code that was created by Word and then by NT-Std in converting it.
      I will post the URL when it is up.
      Bruce

      loro <loro-spam01-@...> wrote:
      Bruce Meyers wrote:
      >The resulting file is a "disaster" but it works except that a .gif file
      >that will be displayed in Firefox and Opera will not display in IE7.

      Can you post a URL where we can see this?

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    • Bruce Meyers
      Hugo, If it works in Firefox2 and Opera9, why would it be the code? I am embarrassed by what is on this page, but most of it was created either by Word or by
      Message 2 of 19 , May 30, 2007
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        Hugo,

        If it works in Firefox2 and Opera9, why would it be the code? I am embarrassed by
        what is on this page, but most of it was created either by Word or by NT-Std in converting it from a .doc file to a .txt file and then to an .html file. I do not understand most of the code and I have no idea how to "clean it up" without making it completely unreadable.

        It is not up on the site yet. I will post the site when it is up and then expect to hear from many who will tell me how awful the page is and that I should be ashamed to put it up.
        In this case I had to work with what I was given - not what I wanted.
        Bruce


        Hugo Paulissen <hugopaulissen@...> wrote:
        Bruce,

        Please show us some of the remaining HTML (after cleaning). I do not think the problem is the image, but the code. I've noticed that Word outputs some code to check if the browser is IE or not. If you delete these sections (if apparent) it ought to work...

        Hugo

        I had to convert a Word .doc file to display it on a site I work on. I
        saved the file as a .txt file and then used NT to convert it to html.
        The resulting file is a "disaster" but it works except that a .gif file
        that will be displayed in Firefox and Opera will not display in IE7.
        I know that there are IE problems and some ways to work around them.
        Can anyone offer some advice on how to get this .gif file to work?

        The html is the standard src="image001. gif" and that does work in
        Firefox 2.0 and Opera 9. Can anyone direct me to some place that will
        explain what I can do to make it work in IE? I believe that most of
        the visitors to the site will be using some version of IE (probably
        IE6) and I would like to fix the code so that they can see this
        graphic. This is not up on any site yet so I can't direct you to it,
        but I think this is a common problem I have not seen an answer for.
        Thanks in advance for any tips or advice. Bruce M

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      • Axel Berger
        ... All browsers have some capability of autocorrecting faulty code and trying to show something regardless. I fullheartedly agree with Cary and Corl: FIRST
        Message 3 of 19 , May 30, 2007
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          Bruce Meyers wrote:
          > If it works in Firefox2 and Opera9, why would it be the code?

          All browsers have some capability of autocorrecting faulty code and
          trying to show something regardless. I fullheartedly agree with Cary and
          Corl: FIRST make sure your code is correct and validates and only then
          adapt to browser incompatibilities should there be any.

          Anything else is like telling your teacher "Why do you mark my spelling,
          my mum undertands what I meant.".

          I still don't quite undertand your problem though. If you have really
          done this

          > converting it from a .doc file to a .txt file
          > and then to an .html file.

          it ought to have been pure text without any markup. In that case it may
          well look bland and boring, but there is no reason for your:

          > I do not understand most of the code and I have no idea
          > how to "clean it up"

          There simply can't and won't be any code for you to understand in the
          first place.

          Axel
        • Cary Driscoll
          Because different browsers handle invalid code differently. It s likely that somewhere in IE s interpretation of the code it s getting tripped up and missing
          Message 4 of 19 , May 30, 2007
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            Because different browsers handle invalid code differently. It's likely that somewhere in IE's interpretation of the code it's getting tripped up and missing the image for one reason or another. Otherwise, there's no reason for a gif image to fail if you can see that the <img> tag is coded correctly.

            Bruce Meyers wrote:

            If it works in Firefox2 and Opera9, why would it be the code?


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          • John Wallace
            When using IE 7 (what I have now) when the browser tries to open a gif or jpeg, which is on my local hard drive, it won t show it. For example, if I have a
            Message 5 of 19 , May 30, 2007
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              When using IE 7 (what I have now) when the browser tries to open a gif or jpeg, which is on my local hard drive, it won't show it.
              For example, if I have a link to a pic, it won't show it. ( < a href=pic.jpg> pic< /a>)
              It asks if I want to open a paint program.
              If the gif or jpeg is in a html page it will go ahead and show it.
              In other browsers it will show the pic.

              If it's on a server it'll work also

              Can you post some of the html around it?
              Also the case has to be correct.
              pic.GIF is not the same as pic.gif

              John Wallace
              Pontiac Power RULES !!!
              www.wallaceracing.com



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              To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [NH] IE7 won't display graphic other browsers will - reply to Hugo



              Hugo,

              If it works in Firefox2 and Opera9, why would it be the code? I am embarrassed by
              what is on this page, but most of it was created either by Word or by NT-Std in converting it from a .doc file to a .txt file and
              then to an .html file. I do not understand most of the code and I have no idea how to "clean it up" without making it completely
              unreadable.

              It is not up on the site yet. I will post the site when it is up and then expect to hear from many who will tell me how awful the
              page is and that I should be ashamed to put it up.
              In this case I had to work with what I was given - not what I wanted.
              Bruce


              Hugo Paulissen <HYPERLINK "mailto:hugopaulissen%40yahoo.com"hugopaulissen@...> wrote:
              Bruce,

              Please show us some of the remaining HTML (after cleaning). I do not think the problem is the image, but the code. I've noticed that
              Word outputs some code to check if the browser is IE or not. If you delete these sections (if apparent) it ought to work...

              Hugo

              I had to convert a Word .doc file to display it on a site I work on. I
              saved the file as a .txt file and then used NT to convert it to html.
              The resulting file is a "disaster" but it works except that a .gif file
              that will be displayed in Firefox and Opera will not display in IE7.
              I know that there are IE problems and some ways to work around them.
              Can anyone offer some advice on how to get this .gif file to work?

              The html is the standard src="image001. gif" and that does work in
              Firefox 2.0 and Opera 9. Can anyone direct me to some place that will
              explain what I can do to make it work in IE? I believe that most of
              the visitors to the site will be using some version of IE (probably
              IE6) and I would like to fix the code so that they can see this
              graphic. This is not up on any site yet so I can't direct you to it,
              but I think this is a common problem I have not seen an answer for.
              Thanks in advance for any tips or advice. Bruce M

              .

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            • Chris Dart
              My Firefox 2 and IE 7 don t like by it self: pic either but they like: pic by it self just fine!
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                My Firefox 2 and IE 7 don't like by it self:
                < a href=pic.jpg> pic< /a> either

                but they like:
                <img src="../icon/Computer.jpg" /> pic< /a>

                by it self just fine!

                does this give a clue?


                (I used the computer jpg because it was available)

                Regards

                Chris Dart
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                From: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ntb-html@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wallace
                Sent: 30 May 2007 23:36
                To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [NH] IE7 won't display graphic other browsers will - reply to Hugo



                When using IE 7 (what I have now) when the browser tries to open a gif or jpeg, which is on my local hard drive, it won't show it.
                For example, if I have a link to a pic, it won't show it. ( < a href=pic.jpg> pic< /a>)
                It asks if I want to open a paint program.
                If the gif or jpeg is in a html page it will go ahead and show it.
                In other browsers it will show the pic.

                If it's on a server it'll work also

                Can you post some of the html around it?
                Also the case has to be correct.
                pic.GIF is not the same as pic.gif

                John Wallace
                Pontiac Power RULES !!!
                www.wallaceracing.com

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                Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:04 AM
                To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ntb-html%40yahoogroups.com>
                Subject: Re: [NH] IE7 won't display graphic other browsers will - reply to Hugo

                Hugo,

                If it works in Firefox2 and Opera9, why would it be the code? I am embarrassed by
                what is on this page, but most of it was created either by Word or by NT-Std in converting it from a .doc file to a .txt file and
                then to an .html file. I do not understand most of the code and I have no idea how to "clean it up" without making it completely
                unreadable.

                It is not up on the site yet. I will post the site when it is up and then expect to hear from many who will tell me how awful the
                page is and that I should be ashamed to put it up.
                In this case I had to work with what I was given - not what I wanted.
                Bruce

                Hugo Paulissen <HYPERLINK "mailto:hugopaulissen%40yahoo.com"hugopaulissen@...> wrote:
                Bruce,

                Please show us some of the remaining HTML (after cleaning). I do not think the problem is the image, but the code. I've noticed that
                Word outputs some code to check if the browser is IE or not. If you delete these sections (if apparent) it ought to work...

                Hugo

                I had to convert a Word .doc file to display it on a site I work on. I
                saved the file as a .txt file and then used NT to convert it to html.
                The resulting file is a "disaster" but it works except that a .gif file
                that will be displayed in Firefox and Opera will not display in IE7.
                I know that there are IE problems and some ways to work around them.
                Can anyone offer some advice on how to get this .gif file to work?

                The html is the standard src="image001. gif" and that does work in
                Firefox 2.0 and Opera 9. Can anyone direct me to some place that will
                explain what I can do to make it work in IE? I believe that most of
                the visitors to the site will be using some version of IE (probably
                IE6) and I would like to fix the code so that they can see this
                graphic. This is not up on any site yet so I can't direct you to it,
                but I think this is a common problem I have not seen an answer for.
                Thanks in advance for any tips or advice. Bruce M

                .

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              • Chris Dart
                Too early in the morning for me! - should have left the pic off. and the real answer is it does not like the space between the opening
                Message 7 of 19 , May 31, 2007
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                  Too early in the morning for me! - should have left the 'pic </a>' off.

                  and the real answer is it does not like the space between the opening < and the a

                  < a href=pic.jpg> pic< /a> = not good

                  <a href=pic.jpg> pic< /a>) = OK


                  Regards

                  Chris Dart
                  Mobile: +31 652 460 610




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                  From: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ntb-html@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wallace
                  Sent: 30 May 2007 23:36
                  To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [NH] IE7 won't display graphic other browsers will - reply to Hugo



                  When using IE 7 (what I have now) when the browser tries to open a gif or jpeg, which is on my local hard drive, it won't show it.
                  For example, if I have a link to a pic, it won't show it. ( < a href=pic.jpg> pic< /a>)
                  It asks if I want to open a paint program.
                  If the gif or jpeg is in a html page it will go ahead and show it.
                  In other browsers it will show the pic.

                  If it's on a server it'll work also

                  Can you post some of the html around it?
                  Also the case has to be correct.
                  pic.GIF is not the same as pic.gif

                  John Wallace
                  Pontiac Power RULES !!!
                  www.wallaceracing.com

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                  Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:04 AM
                  To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ntb-html%40yahoogroups.com>
                  Subject: Re: [NH] IE7 won't display graphic other browsers will - reply to Hugo

                  Hugo,

                  If it works in Firefox2 and Opera9, why would it be the code? I am embarrassed by
                  what is on this page, but most of it was created either by Word or by NT-Std in converting it from a .doc file to a .txt file and
                  then to an .html file. I do not understand most of the code and I have no idea how to "clean it up" without making it completely
                  unreadable.

                  It is not up on the site yet. I will post the site when it is up and then expect to hear from many who will tell me how awful the
                  page is and that I should be ashamed to put it up.
                  In this case I had to work with what I was given - not what I wanted.
                  Bruce

                  Hugo Paulissen <HYPERLINK "mailto:hugopaulissen%40yahoo.com"hugopaulissen@...> wrote:
                  Bruce,

                  Please show us some of the remaining HTML (after cleaning). I do not think the problem is the image, but the code. I've noticed that
                  Word outputs some code to check if the browser is IE or not. If you delete these sections (if apparent) it ought to work...

                  Hugo

                  I had to convert a Word .doc file to display it on a site I work on. I
                  saved the file as a .txt file and then used NT to convert it to html.
                  The resulting file is a "disaster" but it works except that a .gif file
                  that will be displayed in Firefox and Opera will not display in IE7.
                  I know that there are IE problems and some ways to work around them.
                  Can anyone offer some advice on how to get this .gif file to work?

                  The html is the standard src="image001. gif" and that does work in
                  Firefox 2.0 and Opera 9. Can anyone direct me to some place that will
                  explain what I can do to make it work in IE? I believe that most of
                  the visitors to the site will be using some version of IE (probably
                  IE6) and I would like to fix the code so that they can see this
                  graphic. This is not up on any site yet so I can't direct you to it,
                  but I think this is a common problem I have not seen an answer for.
                  Thanks in advance for any tips or advice. Bruce M

                  .

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                • Marcelo de Castro Bastos
                  On the last exciting episode, aired on 31/5/2007 04:18, Chris Dart ... Yes, there should NOT be an space after the
                  Message 8 of 19 , May 31, 2007
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                    On the last exciting episode, aired on 31/5/2007 04:18, Chris Dart
                    invited the wrath of the gods by saying:
                    > Too early in the morning for me! - should have left the 'pic </a>' off.
                    >
                    > and the real answer is it does not like the space between the opening < and the a
                    >
                    > < a href=pic.jpg> pic< /a> = not good
                    >
                    > <a href=pic.jpg> pic< /a>) = OK
                    >
                    >
                    Yes, there should NOT be an space after the "<". This can cause all
                    sorts of problems.

                    Also, in your previous example, you were comparing an <a href...> tag
                    with an <img src...> tag. Well, the <a> won't display the image.

                    Thirdly, one of your examples put the filename between quotes
                    (recommended) while the other didn't use quotes (not recommended).

                    Try checking your code with Tidy -- just download the latest version
                    from http://www.paehl.com/open_source/?download=tidy.zip , unzip it and
                    place the tidy.exe file in the Notetab folder. Then you can invoke it
                    from Notetab to check your code.

                    Marcelo

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                  • Chris Dart
                    I ll remember to have my morning wake-up coffee before I try writing comments in future! Regards Chris Dart Mobile: +31 652 460 610
                    Message 9 of 19 , May 31, 2007
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                      I'll remember to have my morning wake-up coffee before I try writing comments in future!



                      Regards

                      Chris Dart
                      Mobile: +31 652 460 610




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                      From: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ntb-html@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcelo de Castro Bastos
                      Sent: 31 May 2007 17:13
                      To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [NH] IE7 won't display graphic other browsers will - reply to Hugo



                      On the last exciting episode, aired on 31/5/2007 04:18, Chris Dart
                      invited the wrath of the gods by saying:
                      > Too early in the morning for me! - should have left the 'pic </a>' off.
                      >
                      > and the real answer is it does not like the space between the opening < and the a
                      >
                      > < a href=pic.jpg> pic< /a> = not good
                      >
                      > <a href=pic.jpg> pic< /a>) = OK
                      >
                      >
                      Yes, there should NOT be an space after the "<". This can cause all
                      sorts of problems.

                      Also, in your previous example, you were comparing an <a href...> tag
                      with an <img src...> tag. Well, the <a> won't display the image.

                      Thirdly, one of your examples put the filename between quotes
                      (recommended) while the other didn't use quotes (not recommended).

                      Try checking your code with Tidy -- just download the latest version
                      from http://www.paehl.com/open_source/?download=tidy.zip <http://www.paehl.com/open_source/?download=tidy.zip> , unzip it and
                      place the tidy.exe file in the Notetab folder. Then you can invoke it
                      from Notetab to check your code.

                      Marcelo

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                    • Corl DeLuna
                      Here s the markup in a HTML file of a jpg with a link to another page, it works fine in IE 5-7, and Firefox 2.0. IE is not perfect, but it gets blamed for a
                      Message 10 of 19 , May 31, 2007
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                        Here's the markup in a HTML file of a jpg with a link to another page, it
                        works fine in IE 5-7, and Firefox 2.0. IE is not perfect, but it gets blamed
                        for a lot that it doesn't deserve.

                        <a href="Ideas-Are-Free_Summary.htm" title="See how the man got on the
                        Moon"><img src="art/How-To-Multi-Task.jpg" width="380" height="252" alt="Man
                        on the Moon"></a>

                        But, if you want the jpg to display in a browser from a txt file, then I
                        don't understand. But I do understand HTML well enough. Here is one of the
                        best free tutorials I know of for HTML and more, http://www.w3schools.com/
                        <http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp> with great try-it practice
                        sessions for each concept.

                        Best,
                        Corl


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                        Of John Wallace
                        Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:36 PM
                        To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: RE: [NH] IE7 won't display graphic other browsers will - reply to
                        Hugo



                        When using IE 7 (what I have now) when the browser tries to open a gif or
                        jpeg, which is on my local hard drive, it won't show it.
                        For example, if I have a link to a pic, it won't show it. ( < a
                        href=pic.jpg> pic< /a>)
                        It asks if I want to open a paint program.
                        If the gif or jpeg is in a html page it will go ahead and show it.
                        In other browsers it will show the pic.

                        If it's on a server it'll work also

                        Can you post some of the html around it?
                        Also the case has to be correct.
                        pic.GIF is not the same as pic.gif

                        John Wallace
                        Pontiac Power RULES !!!
                        www.wallaceracing.com

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                        [mailto:ntb-html@yahoogroup <mailto:ntb-html%40yahoogroups.com> s.com] On
                        Behalf Of Bruce Meyers
                        Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:04 AM
                        To: ntb-html@yahoogroup <mailto:ntb-html%40yahoogroups.com> s.com
                        Subject: Re: [NH] IE7 won't display graphic other browsers will - reply to
                        Hugo

                        Hugo,

                        If it works in Firefox2 and Opera9, why would it be the code? I am
                        embarrassed by
                        what is on this page, but most of it was created either by Word or by NT-Std
                        in converting it from a .doc file to a .txt file and
                        then to an .html file. I do not understand most of the code and I have no
                        idea how to "clean it up" without making it completely
                        unreadable.

                        It is not up on the site yet. I will post the site when it is up and then
                        expect to hear from many who will tell me how awful the
                        page is and that I should be ashamed to put it up.
                        In this case I had to work with what I was given - not what I wanted.
                        Bruce

                        Hugo Paulissen <HYPERLINK
                        "mailto:hugopaulissen%40yahoo.com"hugopaulissen@...> wrote:
                        Bruce,

                        Please show us some of the remaining HTML (after cleaning). I do not think
                        the problem is the image, but the code. I've noticed that
                        Word outputs some code to check if the browser is IE or not. If you delete
                        these sections (if apparent) it ought to work...

                        Hugo

                        I had to convert a Word .doc file to display it on a site I work on. I
                        saved the file as a .txt file and then used NT to convert it to html.
                        The resulting file is a "disaster" but it works except that a .gif file
                        that will be displayed in Firefox and Opera will not display in IE7.
                        I know that there are IE problems and some ways to work around them.
                        Can anyone offer some advice on how to get this .gif file to work?

                        The html is the standard src="image001. gif" and that does work in
                        Firefox 2.0 and Opera 9. Can anyone direct me to some place that will
                        explain what I can do to make it work in IE? I believe that most of
                        the visitors to the site will be using some version of IE (probably
                        IE6) and I would like to fix the code so that they can see this
                        graphic. This is not up on any site yet so I can't direct you to it,
                        but I think this is a common problem I have not seen an answer for.
                        Thanks in advance for any tips or advice. Bruce M

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