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  • Dennis Hays
    Hello bubblefisch2002, ... The attributes of an IMG tag are as follows: Syntax Attributes SRC=URI (location of image) ALT=Text (alternate text)
    Message 1 of 10 , Aug 20, 2006
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      Hello bubblefisch2002,

      Sunday, August 20, 2006, 1:03:29 PM, you wrote:

      > Hi everybody,

      > I am building some pages in HTML and found it very useful when browsers
      > make the Alt-information of a Link a Quickinfo.
      > Since not all browsers do that my question: Is there a way to tell
      > browsers to show a certain text as Quickinfo?

      > Thanks in advance, Raimund.

      The attributes of an IMG tag are as follows:

      Syntax <IMG>
      Attributes SRC=URI (location of image)
      ALT=Text (alternate text)
      LONGDESC=URI (link to long description)
      WIDTH=Length (image width)
      HEIGHT=Length (image height)
      USEMAP=URI (client-side image map)
      ISMAP (server-side image map)
      ALIGN=top|middle|bottom|left|right (image alignment)
      BORDER=Length (link border width)
      HSPACE=Pixels (horizontal gutter)
      VSPACE=Pixels (vertical gutter)

      The ALT is ALTERNATE text and should display on most modern browsers
      and be read by web readers for the hearing impaired. However, if you
      want to go through the trouble, you could use LONGDESC, but that
      required you put the text on another HTML document and refer to it
      with a URI.

      Best,

      Dennis








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    • Website Managers
      ... browsers ... you ... The ALT tag is shown as a tool tip by hovering your mouse over the image, or if the image is missing, while using Internet Explorer.
      Message 2 of 10 , Aug 20, 2006
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        --- In ntb-html@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Hays <dhays@...> wrote:

        > The attributes of an IMG tag are as follows:
        >
        > Syntax <IMG>
        > Attributes SRC=URI (location of image)
        > ALT=Text (alternate text)
        > LONGDESC=URI (link to long description)
        > WIDTH=Length (image width)
        > HEIGHT=Length (image height)
        > USEMAP=URI (client-side image map)
        > ISMAP (server-side image map)
        > ALIGN=top|middle|bottom|left|right (image alignment)
        > BORDER=Length (link border width)
        > HSPACE=Pixels (horizontal gutter)
        > VSPACE=Pixels (vertical gutter)
        >
        > The ALT is ALTERNATE text and should display on most modern
        browsers
        > and be read by web readers for the hearing impaired. However, if
        you
        > want to go through the trouble, you could use LONGDESC, but that
        > required you put the text on another HTML document and refer to it
        > with a URI.
        >
        > Best,
        >
        > Dennis

        The ALT tag is shown as a 'tool tip' by hovering your mouse over the
        image, or if the image is missing, while using Internet Explorer.
        Mozilla Firefox requires the TITLE tag in order to show the 'tool
        tip'. Since IE does not recognize TITLE and Firefox does not
        recognize ALT, I have been using both tags to accommodate both
        browsers until they are updated to play nice together.

        The LONGDESC is a great tip. Do you know if it is recognized by both
        IE and Firefox?

        Jim
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      • loro
        Hi Raimund, ... As Dennis said. alt is for alternate content, to be displayed when the image can t be loaded. You can use the title attribute to display a
        Message 3 of 10 , Aug 20, 2006
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          Hi Raimund,

          >I am building some pages in HTML and found it very useful when browsers
          >make the Alt-information of a Link a Quickinfo.
          >Since not all browsers do that my question: Is there a way to tell
          >browsers to show a certain text as Quickinfo?

          As Dennis said. alt is for alternate content, to be displayed when the
          image can't be loaded. You can use the title attribute to display a
          tooltip. Works in all graphical browsers except old ones like Netscape 4.
          <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#adef-title>

          Lotta
        • Dennis Hays
          Hello Website, ... Not as much as I would like. I found the following: MOZILLA: Title on anything appears as tooltip. Alt text shown when image is not; image
          Message 4 of 10 , Aug 20, 2006
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            Hello Website,

            Sunday, August 20, 2006, 2:44:49 PM, you wrote:

            > --- In ntb-html@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Hays <dhays@...> wrote:
            >
            >> The attributes of an IMG tag are as follows:
            >>
            >> Syntax <IMG>
            >> Attributes SRC=URI (location of image)
            >> ALT=Text (alternate text)
            >> LONGDESC=URI (link to long description)
            >> WIDTH=Length (image width)
            >> HEIGHT=Length (image height)
            >> USEMAP=URI (client-side image map)
            >> ISMAP (server-side image map)
            >> ALIGN=top|middle|bottom|left|right (image alignment)
            >> BORDER=Length (link border width)
            >> HSPACE=Pixels (horizontal gutter)
            >> VSPACE=Pixels (vertical gutter)
            >>
            >> The ALT is ALTERNATE text and should display on most modern
            > browsers
            >> and be read by web readers for the hearing impaired. However, if
            > you
            >> want to go through the trouble, you could use LONGDESC, but that
            >> required you put the text on another HTML document and refer to it
            >> with a URI.
            >>
            >> Best,
            >>
            >> Dennis

            > The ALT tag is shown as a 'tool tip' by hovering your mouse over the
            > image, or if the image is missing, while using Internet Explorer.
            > Mozilla Firefox requires the TITLE tag in order to show the 'tool
            > tip'. Since IE does not recognize TITLE and Firefox does not
            > recognize ALT, I have been using both tags to accommodate both
            > browsers until they are updated to play nice together.

            > The LONGDESC is a great tip. Do you know if it is recognized by both
            > IE and Firefox?

            > Jim
            > Website Managers
            > http://www.websitemanagers.net

            Not as much as I would like. I found the following:

            MOZILLA: Title on anything appears as tooltip. Alt text shown when image
            is not; image size is not preserved when the image is absent, since the program
            (correctly) gives you the text formatting that cascades onto the alt text
            rather than a placeholder box the size of the graphic. You can contextual-menu-click
            on a graphic, select Properties, and read its title and alt text and the
            link to a long description (or just the URL-- it isn't a live hyperlink).
            Tested in Mozilla 1.3 Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
            rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312.

            SAFARI: Title on anything shown in status line, as iCab does. No support
            for longdesc. Appears to emulate Mozilla's behaviour (ignoring image placeholder
            box; cascading text formatting) with alt text. Tested 1.0 beta 2 (v73).

            OMNIWEB. No title support. No longdesc support. Shows alt text with broken-graphic
            placeholder icon and (apparently) full-sized placeholder box. Tested 4.2
            (v435.5).

            LYNX. Alt text rendered as normal text. No support for longdesc. Support
            for title on a elements and a few other elements only (working from memory,
            map and area titles are shown, but not verified here), though not images.
            Tested 2.8.2rel.1.

            INTERNET EXPLORER. Titles for everything rendered as tooltip. No support
            for longdesc. Alt text appears with broken-graphic placeholder icon in placeholder
            box the size of the image. Tested 5.2.2 (5010.1) on OS X.

            ------------------
            So, TITLE appears to be the best, at this point and maybe your
            solution--both ALT and TITLE--is the best.

            Dennis

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          • sisterscape
            You might want to keep in mind that the following IMG attributes are now deprecated: align border hspace vspace This is important to know if you want to write
            Message 5 of 10 , Aug 20, 2006
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              You might want to keep in mind that the following IMG attributes are
              now deprecated:

              align
              border
              hspace
              vspace

              This is important to know if you want to write code to current
              standards and have it work cross-browser. The last time I was coding
              (a few months back), I observed that the hspace and vspace attributes
              were ignored in Firefox and instead, had to be set with CSS.

              sisterscape

              --- Dennis Hays <dhays@...> wrote:

              > Hello bubblefisch2002,
              >
              > Sunday, August 20, 2006, 1:03:29 PM, you wrote:
              >
              > > Hi everybody,
              >
              > > I am building some pages in HTML and found it very useful when
              > browsers
              > > make the Alt-information of a Link a Quickinfo.
              > > Since not all browsers do that my question: Is there a way to tell
              > > browsers to show a certain text as Quickinfo?
              >
              > > Thanks in advance, Raimund.
              >
              > The attributes of an IMG tag are as follows:
              >
              > Syntax <IMG>
              > Attributes SRC=URI (location of image)
              > ALT=Text (alternate text)
              > LONGDESC=URI (link to long description)
              > WIDTH=Length (image width)
              > HEIGHT=Length (image height)
              > USEMAP=URI (client-side image map)
              > ISMAP (server-side image map)
              > ALIGN=top|middle|bottom|left|right (image alignment)
              > BORDER=Length (link border width)
              > HSPACE=Pixels (horizontal gutter)
              > VSPACE=Pixels (vertical gutter)
              >
              > The ALT is ALTERNATE text and should display on most modern browsers
              > and be read by web readers for the hearing impaired. However, if you
              > want to go through the trouble, you could use LONGDESC, but that
              > required you put the text on another HTML document and refer to it
              > with a URI.
              >
              > Best,
              >
              > Dennis
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
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              > http://www.haysdesign.com
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            • loro
              ... Last I heard longdesc was only supported by a minor speaking browser, pwWebSpeak. That s why a linked d is often used to link to an image description on
              Message 6 of 10 , Aug 20, 2006
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                Website Managers wrote:
                >The LONGDESC is a great tip. Do you know if it is recognized by both
                >IE and Firefox?

                Last I heard longdesc was only supported by a minor speaking browser,
                pwWebSpeak. That's why a linked "d" is often used to link to an image
                description on sites where accessibility is a major issue.

                <http://www.soundlinks.com/pwgen.htm>

                Lotta
              • adrien
                ... Where did you read this? ... Not on this side. I can not remenber that it is the CSS that I use, but I will look to be sure. But Firefox here display
                Message 7 of 10 , Aug 21, 2006
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                  Op zo, 20-08-2006 te 12:40 -0700, schreef sisterscape:
                  > You might want to keep in mind that the following IMG attributes are
                  > now deprecated:
                  >
                  > align
                  > border
                  > hspace
                  > vspace

                  Where did you read this?

                  > This is important to know if you want to write code to current
                  > standards and have it work cross-browser. The last time I was coding
                  > (a few months back), I observed that the hspace and vspace attributes
                  > were ignored in Firefox and instead, had to be set with CSS.

                  Not on this side. I can not remenber that it is the CSS that I use, but
                  I will look to be sure. But Firefox here display correct border, space,
                  etc.
                  --
                  adrien
                • sisterscape
                  Here you go - http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/index/attributes.html This is nothing new. When I started to code HTML in 2002 (and shortly thereafter xhtml), these
                  Message 8 of 10 , Aug 21, 2006
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                    Here you go - http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/index/attributes.html

                    This is nothing new. When I started to code HTML in 2002 (and shortly
                    thereafter xhtml), these and many other attributes were already
                    deprecated.

                    sisterscape

                    --- adrien <adrien.verlee@...> wrote:

                    > Op zo, 20-08-2006 te 12:40 -0700, schreef sisterscape:
                    > > You might want to keep in mind that the following IMG attributes
                    > are
                    > > now deprecated:
                    > >
                    > > align
                    > > border
                    > > hspace
                    > > vspace
                    >
                    > Where did you read this?
                    >
                    > > This is important to know if you want to write code to current
                    > > standards and have it work cross-browser. The last time I was
                    > coding
                    > > (a few months back), I observed that the hspace and vspace
                    > attributes
                    > > were ignored in Firefox and instead, had to be set with CSS.
                    >
                    > Not on this side. I can not remenber that it is the CSS that I use,
                    > but
                    > I will look to be sure. But Firefox here display correct border,
                    > space,
                    > etc.
                    > --
                    > adrien
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > CSE HTML Validator Lite - it's free:
                    > http://home.earthlink.net/~5wink/dl/cselite652.exe
                    >
                    > Fookes Software Home: http://www.fookes.us/redir
                    >
                    > Yahoo! Groups Links
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >


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                  • bubblefisch2002
                    ... thanks very much for the quick reply. i will stick to the hint with TITLE- and ALT-tag which solved my problem. Thanks again, Raimund.
                    Message 9 of 10 , Aug 21, 2006
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                      --- Hi evrybody,

                      thanks very much for the quick reply. i will stick to the hint with
                      TITLE- and ALT-tag which solved my problem.

                      Thanks again, Raimund.
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