HTMLib, htmlhelp.com, Other References (was re: learning)
- Hi Lotta and Greg,
Perhaps you all can send the references you use with links and
say a short paragraph about it. I will then compile them and
make a post with them all together. We can then just refer
somebody to the eGroups post and/or I will put it at my site in
HTML and have Eric link to it. I'm sure I have all the ones you
>LOL. I didn't see that! I must have looked at the more reasonableFor an older reference that is much faster not lacking much from
>size of the update. But it's true the installed program is 217kB.
>The only thing wrong with it is that it's slow. Maybe because my
>copy is lacking some 2500kb? :-D
version 4 of HTMLib and to me easier to navigate - I like the
format better myself then try:
There is a link to BK Color Coder on my NoteTab Enhancement page
which you can try out to replace the one that comes with HTMLib
or MS for it. You can load a Netscape safe color palette in if
you want and it also has a one of those color droppers to pick up
a color off your screen somewhere (with viewer for color mouse it
over). It has been so long since I looked the stuff I forgot,
but details are at:
Just checked version 3 for you:
Full Package - Everything + All Required VB Files.
Lite Package - Everything Without the Required VB Files.
Windows 3.x package.
!! Note: !! - If you already have Visual Basic 4.x installed, you
may want to download only the Light package (Option 2). If you do
not have Visual Basic 4.x installed, you should choose the full
package (Option 1). Finally, if you are running Windows 3.x,
download Option 3.
I do not think you need IE installed for version 3 to work. It
does not use the .chm format like version 4.
>> He's the author of the reference I like. The same thing inHas he ever released that version without the program or whatever
>> WinHELP appears to be available completely free from
>> http://www.htmlhelp.com/distribution/ 222k.
>Oh yes, exactly the same contents. But I find that the .chm
>format is easier to use. If you want to try if the program runs
>without installation, just holler and I'll send you the .exe and
>the accompanying .dll.
it is you have? OH, maybe that is what you are saying - yes, add
me to your list. :)
The NoteTab and Html List...
- Hi Lotta,
> >If you want to try if the program runs withoutNow I am confused. I thought that's what we were talking about all along.
> >installation, just holler and I'll send you the .exe and the accompanying
> I was referring to HTMLib. It got a little mixed up.
- Hi Jody,
> Perhaps you all can send the references you use with links andAt http://www.htmlhelp.com/distribution/ you'll find a set of download links for
> say a short paragraph about it. I will then compile them and
> make a post with them all together.
the Web Design Group's HTML3.2, HTML4.0 and CSS1 guides (typical file size
250kB) which I have found very readable and easy to use.
These are available for a variety of platforms and in a number of formats and
there are several mirrors in the US and Europe for most of these. (The formats
include: Windows 95/98/NT4 Help, Zipped HTML and Windows 3.x Help depending on
the document. For those using other platforms OS/2 INF, Tar'd, gzip'd HTML,
Macintosh DOCMaker, PDF, AppleWorks macros for Apple II and Stuffed HTML are
also available for certain documents.)
The guides provide indexes by alphabet and function to all relevant HTML and CSS
tags/selectors and provide, not only correct syntax, but also guidance on their
use, particularly pointing out alternatives to the deprecated features of
The only possible disadvantages of these guides is that they appear no longer to
be being developed, the last update to the site being dated 1999 and they
approach the whole issue of writing HTML/Stylesheets from the perspectives of
the W3C standards rather than current browsers.
On the subject of browser implementations I found these URLs helpful:
Frame Quirks on Navigator (12/6/99)
which explains the appalling mess you get into if you rely on pixel defined
frame sizes. (There are a number of other links from here which look as if they
are worth investigation!)
STYLE SHEETS KNOWN ISSUES
Netscape's own admission on what is wrong with their browser.
Chart of CSS1 implementation problems in Browsers
- Hi Greg,
>> Perhaps you all can send the references you use with links andThanks guy, I'll file it in my ntb-HTML mailbox and see if we get
>> say a short paragraph about it. I will then compile them and
>> make a post with them all together.
>At http://www.htmlhelp.com/distribution/ you'll find
some more takers. :) I did finally get the html version of the 4.0. :)
The NoteTab and Html List...
- Hi Lotta,
> If you want to try if the program runs withoutI forgot to say "Yes, please" to that, but aren't I picking up that it needs the
> installation, just holler and I'll send you the .exe and the
> accompanying .dll.
VBasic runtime (which I don't have installed) to work and isn't that what makes
up the additional megabytes? If so I won't bother.
- Here's a clip you might be interested in.
Usingfull for checking for wellformedness in xml,
You can parse xhtml and as xml if wellformed, so handy for xhtml docs also.
Basically if the doc is parsed without errors it can be parsed as xml.
The errors generate the reason for the parse failure, line number, text etc
which is usefull for debugging(um I don't think you 'debug' xml), then takes
you directly to the text in question in the doc.
I tried it with a few typo's like <el attrib=" >(missed comma) and seemed to
do a better job than 'tidy' in finding this error plus it takes you directly
to the parse error in the doc . If you find it usefull place it on your
^!TextToFile "^%file%" ^$GetClipText(xhtmlDOM)$
;get rid of logo
^!setArray %CscriptOut%=^$GetOutput(Cscript "^%file%" "^%hostOptions%"
^!IFTrue ^$IsEmpty("^%CscriptOut%")$ ^!info "Parsed as wellformed xml"
^!IFTrue ^$IsEmpty("^%CscriptOut%")$ Exit
^!set %msg%=^%msg%Parse error
^!set %msg%=^%msg%occurred on line
^!set %msg%=^%msg%character position within the line
^!set %msg%=^%msg%Text of the line containing the error
^!set %msg%=^%msg%REASON FOR THE ERROR
^!Find "^%CscriptOut5" CIWS
var doc = new ActiveXObject("microsoft.xmldom");
doc.validateOnParse = false;
var ok = true
doc.onreadystatechange = CheckState;
doc.resolveExternals = false;
//filename passed as argument to wsh
//do something with dom.
//var root = doc.documentElement
doc = null
var state = doc.readyState;
if (state == 4)
var err = doc.parseError;
if (err.errorCode != 0)
var msg = ''
msg += err.url + ';'
msg += err.errorCode + ';'
msg += err.line + ';'
msg += err.linepos + ';'
msg += err.srcText + ';'
msg += err.reason
return ok = false
//end of script