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RE: [Clip] How to fix non-Ascii characters using NoteTab

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  • John Shotsky
    I use EditPad Pro to see the hex representation of all of the Unicode characters. My point was simply that it was not the copy/paste OS problem you mentioned,
    Message 1 of 33 , Aug 31, 2013
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      I use EditPad Pro to see the hex representation of all of the Unicode characters. My point was simply that it was not the copy/paste
      OS problem you mentioned, because they CAN be copied and pasted into a program that understands them.

      Regards,
      John
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      From: ntb-clips@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ntb-clips@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Axel Berger
      Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 12:22
      To: ntb-clips@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [Clip] How to fix non-Ascii characters using NoteTab


      John Shotsky wrote:
      > If I paste into MS Word, the characters are kept correctly
      > (so it's not the OS).

      John, you have to be aware of what exactly it is you are doing. Word too
      is a UTF-aware program. If you see the intended glyph, you are NOT shown
      what's in the file. Whenever there are not one but several bytes, you
      want to see several bytes. You are not the end user in search of
      beautiful print, you are a programmr trying to WORK with the files and
      as the very first step you need at least to see exactly what's there. As
      long as you see just one character, not several, you're lost and blind.

      Axel



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    • Roopakshi Pathania
      Hi Axel, I ve not been following this thread, but will throw out a couple of suggestions based on what I ve read. If you wish to use those fraction characters
      Message 33 of 33 , Sep 7, 2013
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        Hi Axel,

        I've not been following this thread, but will throw out a couple of suggestions based on what I've read.
        If you wish to use those fraction characters both for entering/ back converting into NTP or converting them into HTML, why not try MathML or LaTeX?
        MathML may be a bit tedius, but it is appropriate for HTML form, and is readable as well as replaceable in any text editor.
        LaTeX can be entered and converted into HTML using TeX4HT. It is also replaceable.

        Again, since I didn't read most mails, I'm not sure if my suggestions would help.

        Sent from my Lenovo ThinkPad

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        On Sun, 9/1/13, Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@...> wrote:

        Subject: Re: [Clip] How to fix non-Ascii characters using NoteTab
        To: ntb-clips@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Sunday, September 1, 2013, 12:31 AM
















         









        John Shotsky wrote:

        > I use EditPad Pro on an expired trial for working with
        Unicode files.

        > When I open the html file with EditPad I can see these
        characters

        > just fine.



        That may well be the problem. That and some shenanigans
        Windows itself

        engages in with copying and pasting.



        > I have taken the liberty of cc'ing your personal
        email address,

        > and have attached the html.



        I have opened the html in firefox and a UTF UNaware simple
        editor. In

        the first I see all characters and copying and pasting
        translates them

        from UTF to ANSI or an ASCII equivalent thus:



        ¼ cup flour

        ¾ cup milk

        1/3 cup flour



        The editors shows me the individual bytes the characters are
        made of and

        I can copy them to NT unchanged:



        >¾</strong> cup milk</div>

        >¼ cup flour</strong></div>

        >â…“ cup flour</strong></div>



        Running my own UTF script over them yields:



        >¾</strong> cup milk</div>

        >¼ cup flour</strong></div>

        >⅓ cup flour</strong></div>



        (Converting everything possible to cp-1252 = ANSI is on
        purpose.

        Omitting those parts it would be even easier to make
        everything an

        entity.)



        There may be OS issues here too. Parts of eXPerimental are
        UTF-aware and

        might interfere. I'm using Win98SE, but I doubt
        that's the difference.

        (To try I'd need to install stuff first.)



        Axel
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