Re: [Clip] Re: better favourites / categories
- escalation746 wrote:
>[ . . ] reorganising favourites betweenDoesn't an .otl (the Notetab Outline) document indexable with hyperlinks
>different categories is not as easy as cut'n'paste. Plus, it would be
>nice to have custom aliases for the long file names, something like on
>an HTML page, where the full URL is hidden behind a clickable link. In
>fact, I am big on setting up custom HTML pages to navigate my own
>local docs. If only I could get some of them to load in NoteTab rather
>than my browser, I'd be a happy camper!
unless I'm mistaken.
but I think is stuck with the full, the long path_to_file (no short
display like html can do)
I have such an inability to create favs/categories that I'm probably
dropping that approach in favor of . . .
Disk search for keyword sections in files using Perl since I've almost
learned Perl enough now to do that.
But there's also the MS find in files utility. Also the Notetab find in
disk files feature. And a very powerful shareware find utility that
Jody some time ago informed me about (I'm on Linux at the moment, no MS
But the find in files might need a commented out keyword section in each
file of which some files could do but perhaps not for all files though.
I just saw in a Linux magazine about a Perl script named "list"
It is an indexer for files where it lists out files and you can also add
your own comments about each file. Once comments are added (these add
only onto the data file for the list script). so your actual files do
not receive any comments. But launch "list" and U have a folder listing
of files along with your comments that address the nature of each file.
On my agenda soon to try this and tinker with it. Perl runs on Windows
not just Linux.
- Hi Robin,
As Alan has said, the Outline feature of NT is very good for maintaining flat
file DBs. It also has a Table of Contents feature. I use OTLs full of
hyperlinks quite often. Read about Outline documents in Help.
- R Shapp wrote:
> As Alan has said, the Outline feature of NT isThanks guys! I will look this up.
> very good for maintaining flat
> file DBs. It also has a Table of Contents feature.
> I use OTLs full of
> hyperlinks quite often. Read about Outline documents in Help.
In the meantime I wonder why the whole baroque clip language cannot be
replaced with something more powerful, readable, standard, and easily
Then I could be productive!
- Hi Robin,
>In the meantime I wonder why the whole baroque clip languagePerhaps you have not used it enough and become more familiar with
>cannot be replaced with something more powerful, readable,
>standard, and easily embeddable.
it to see its power. As far as readable goes, it was meant for
those that don't know any coding to be able to learn because a
lot of the commands and functions tell you what they do unlike
the more common scripting codes that look like gibberish to me.
That's not to put them down at all, just to say I can read the
Clip Code, but not stuff like Perl, RegExp, etc.
Now, I'm trying to recall something from many years ago, so I
don't know if it is exactly correct, but you knowing other
languages might be able to figure out what I am saying. To the
best of my knowledge NoteTab is written the way it is so that you
can mix plain text and work with plain text directly in the code
and to my understanding the other languages don't work like that.
It has something to do on those lines. If that makes no sense,
let me know and I'll try to hunt down or ask Eric exactly what it
is I am trying to recall.
I don't know what you mean by embeddable. Embedded where? It works
on files, text, etc. not in them.
> Then I could be productive!I somehow get 1000s of hours into a 8-12 hour work day sometimes. ;)
Daily I get probably 100s. It just depends on what I am doing.
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- escalation746 wrote:
>R Shapp wrote:[ . . ]
>> the Outline feature of NT isPerl is supported. So is awk. But I don't know about Python (haven't
>>very good for maintaining flat
>>file DBs. It also has a Table of Contents feature.
>>I use OTLs full of
>>hyperlinks quite often. Read about Outline documents in Help.
>[ clips ]
>replaced with something more powerful, readable, standard, and easily
heard that it is).
I view the clips as more like, say, Qbasic (an old language). Uses
goto. Clips seem to at least sometimes use something that might be
called like screen objects. For instance, cursor, position of cursor,
certain specific selected area of text. Keeping that and the mechanics
thereof in mind seems to at least sometimes help me.
Getting back to favorites, it may be worth a look that
That is meant as a compliment or to co exist with Notetab. It has links
in favorites (I think) (I'm not a favorites person). It has can write
your own sendto definitions (can send to (perhaps a Python and a Python
script)). I have send to Perl and a Perl script with it. It may even
auto reload the changes. Can sendto Notetab if want to run a clip.
Some of this I don't all fully remember the details because I'm so busy
and I run Linux a lot too in addition to MS Windows.
- Alan C wrote:
[ .exe, script, language engine(s) compatible with Notetab ]
>But I don't know about Python (haven'tI'd place my bet that it is supported (works with Notetab, that is, Python)
>heard that it is).
If you need use of language engine other than Perl (with exception
of runawk) then must use runscript (a clip command).
See that url for even more.
^!RunScript "^$GetPerlExe$ ^1 ^%myfile%" "^%ntpscripshort%perltidy.pl"
^!RunScript "^$GetPerlExe$ ^1 ^%myfile%" "^%ntpscripshort%tag2para.pl"
There's two clips, each calls up a different Perl script. Pay particular
attention to all of the getshort utilized as well as the double quotes
in the runscript lines.
Substitute ^$GetPerlExe$ for/with Python.exe
Substitute (the very right hand part that's in its own quotes) for/with
In other words, the above two clips, take note of the runscript line:
each line has five items, each item in the line is separated by a
space. Of those five items, there are two items that are Perl
specific. So, to go with Python, just substitute the two Perl specific
items for the pertinent Python items.
Also of note above: ^%myfile% happens to be the current focused document
I think there's also an even simpler form of ^!RunScript but I'm unsure
of this. Also take a look in the samplecode clip library there's a Perl
"clip" if you will (a Perl script is contained within the clip library
itself take note that this Perl script is called just in a fashion
nearly as if it is a subroutine call, VERY similar (the same principle
really) as use of the ^!Clip command which calls a child (sub routine) clip.
I'm wondering if this method of Perl (or whatever language code other
than clip) inside the clip library can work with Python or yet another
with using the ^!RunScript command. It might. I don't remember trying it.
That's not too unhandy -- call it as a separate clip from within its own
If embedded is having clip code on some lines with Python code on other
lines inside the same clip (which cannot do to my knowlege) then what I
shared above comes close, not far off.
- Alan C wrote:
> If you need use of language engine other than Perl (with exceptionOk, thanks. At some time I will try to parse all of that ! wierdness
> of runawk) then must use runscript (a clip command).
and figure out how to get stuff running.
- Jody wrote:
> Perhaps you have not used it enough and become more familiar withLook at Python and it looks like pseudocode that anyone could write.
> it to see its power. As far as readable goes, it was meant for
> those that don't know any coding to be able to learn because a
> lot of the commands and functions tell you what they do unlike
> the more common scripting codes that look like gibberish to me.
And more importantly, read.It is almost immediately understandable.
Having used programming languages for 25 years I can say I certainly
do not want to learn another one unless it is at least as readable as
I am sure the clip language can be used to do many things. But it is
complex beyond necessity, and I am lazy. All my energy I devote to
other people. Devoting energy to computers just seems a waste. :-)
> I don't know what you mean by embeddable. Embedded where? It worksI just mean that it is easy to embed Python into other programs, like
> on files, text, etc. not in them.
NoteTab. So rather than invent some other new scripting language one
can use an existing superior tool.