Re: [NTO] looking for ebook organizer (and have great movie cataloguer) - solved
- Axel Berger wrote:
>Care to tell us which? That's something I too often miss and would likeSure. I'vee ranted about it before, that's why I didn't want to post
>to have. I have the full Adobe 5, but don't like it much.
the URL again unless someone asked. It's poorly named, PFD-XChange
Viewer. Download the free version and try it out. You can do most
things with that. You can also try the Pro features (mainly
bookmarking), but if you save the document gets watermarked, so play
with a copy until you know what's what.
- Hi Lotta,
> Ooo! I looked it up. Reasonably priced too. I want one now. Did youWell yes, I ordered the jetBook Lite from their British site:
> order from ectaco.com?
but it were sent from US. They offer free shipping in western Europe by
> I see. For me it's the other way around. I seldom read fiction onI don't think that ereaders does a very good job of showing PDF files
> screen. I find it too tiring. But I do read techie books and other
> non-fiction that is better suited for shorter reading seassions.
> That's why I love, and need, annotation features. Actually, I didn't
> read e-books very often at all until I stumbled upon a PDF reader a
> million times better than Aobe's which lets me overline, bookmark and
> make comments in different ways. All of a sudden it worked for me to
> read on the screen.
due to their small screen. The jetBook shrinks the pages to fit the
screen. You can zoom in on the page, but then you are only looking at a
part of the page at a time. This is not to my taste. But if you have the
opportunity to change the pagesetting in the PDF file and save it at a
size that fits to the screen it's another thing. I know some people have
the manual for their digital camera on the ereader, handy to just do a
look up for the features the camera have, but that you don't use that often.
Also you can use your camera as a handheld photocopier and take pictures
of important documents. If needed you can quickly look them up -- just
place a copy on your ereader and off you go. Screen shots of Google
earth, roadmaps etc. can be saved in jpg format and be viewed on the
Also most ereaders just shows pictures in no more than four shades,
which I think is not enough. The jetBook have 16 shades of grey -- not
perfect, but a bit more detailed.
I am waiting for ASUS to sell their Eee Tablet in Europe (8 inch screen,
64 shades of grey -- half e-reader, half note taker, and 2 Mp camera). I
think that will be something I would be interested of maybe buying
depending of the price.
- Torben Joergensen wrote:
>I am waiting for ASUS to sell their Eee Tablet in Europe (8 inch screen,I want an e-ink screen. I realized the Entaco doesn't have that
>64 shades of grey -- half e-reader, half note taker, and 2 Mp camera). I
>think that will be something I would be interested of maybe buying
>depending of the price.
either, luckily before I ordered one. Darn, that mini looked nice -
and cheap. The upside is, I guess, that prizes will continue to fall.
Come next summer, maybe they all will be more reasonably priced. She
- Loro wrote:
> I want an e-ink screen. I realized the Entaco doesn't have thateither, luckily before I ordered one.
We all have our own tastes, and this can not be discussed, however the
e-ink screens in general are not too sharp, and do have (in my opinion)
a annoying blink every time you turn the pages.
The 5-inch TFT LCD screen on Ectaco jetBook is manufactured by Toshiba.
Its VGA reflective monochrome technology enables the device to be read
under a variety of lighting conditions without a need for back or front
light, which causes eyestrain in typical LCD screens. And the screen
doesn't blink when you turn the pages as with e-ink.
The only fault with this screen is because of its reflectiveness. When
reading in direct sunlight you may notice a slight flicker. The only way
to circumvent this problem is by changing the way the sun reflects off
the screen. So turning the screen or maybe even sitting in the shade
instead of in the full sunlight could help. This problem does not occur
when using in indoor lighting, it only occurs in extreme bright light
One reviewer of the jetBook Lite had his 13 year old daughter to give
her opinion on the ereader. This is what she wrote about the screen:
"If you think that you're going to strain your eyes, your absolutely
wrong; it doesn't matter if you have glasses or contacts. Your eyes
won't get as tired as they would if you were in front of a computer
screen. All it takes is just a simple reading light so you can read."
I rest my case... :-)
- Torben Joergensen wrote:
>The only fault with this screen is because of its reflectiveness.That the main reason I want e-ink. I want high readability outside in
>All it takes is just a simple reading light so you can read."Why would a reading light be needed if it's a TFT?
- Hi Lotta,
I think you maybe is confused by the TFT-type screen. You know TFT
screens from TV's and notebooks and maybe even mobile phones. All these
screens are backlit or sometimes sidelit. It is the backlighting which
tires the eyes when reading for long periods.
The TFT screen on the jetBook is reflective and have no built-in light.
You need some light source from the outside to see what is on the
screen. You don't need a great amount of light to be able to read this
type of screen. Some people can easily read the text on the jetBook just
by the small amount of light of their note- or netbook. Not very
practical, but this have been tested. If you are in a room with no
lights turned on or in places where light are not available you need a
smal reading light of some sort. That is not any different from your
e-ink screen. This is why it is mentioned that a reading light is necessary.
And as I told you... there is no problem in reading on the TFT screen in
bright sunlight. You can not compare the screen on the jetBook with
screens on cameras or mobile phones. They are different types. The only
thing you may discover if you are reading in bright sunlight is that the
tekst on the screen will -- sort of -- wobble a bit. Some *few* people
finds this annoying, but if you turn the screen in a different angel in
the sunlight it will go away. Or you can choose to sit in the shadow on
the very hot summerdays. All reflective TFT-screens do this and thats it.
Acctually the jetBook have a very easily viewed display that is kind on
the eyes. So easy to see and read, jetBook Lite can be used anywhere -
in the bright midday sun or the subdued lighting at home.
You should try one of these if have the opportunity.
> Torben Joergensen wrote:
>> The only fault with this screen is because of its reflectiveness.
> That the main reason I want e-ink. I want high readability outside in
> strong ligth.
>> All it takes is just a simple reading light so you can read."
> Why would a reading light be needed if it's a TFT?
- Torben Joergensen wrote:
>I think you maybe is confused by the TFT-type screen.Yeah, though I didn't know I was. Thanks for explaining.
>You should try one of these if have the opportunity.That's the problem. Shops hardly have a thing anymore and the stuff
they actually have you have to fight to get a look at. They don't
want to break the package! When it comes to e-book readers I haven't
seen them in shops yet. Ordering over the net is the only solution.
Pretty much sucks.
- loro wrote:
> Ordering over the net is the only solution. Pretty much sucks.That depends. In an ideal world you're right. On the other hand, how
much do you understand by just looking - they'll hardly let you sit down
and use it for half an hour. And the so called Fachverkäufer (Not even
LEO knows an equivalent term. It means knowledgeable sales person,
educated about the stuff they sell.) are a joke or a chimera. On the net
OTOH you do find meaningful tests and enlightening comments from actual
users. The best thing would be to find someone who's already got one and
For me a thing like that would need a screen with a size of A4, not A5
like the ipad (they mostly quote outer size for that, not the actual
screen). The resolution needs to be at least 768X1024 (a fax is ca.
1600x2400) and scrolling backwards and forwards has to be quick, i.e. no
epaper. Annotation for PDF is another must.
I wouldn't dream of using something like for anything, books and
magazines, that's easily available on paper. But I get very many
scientific mags and articles from them free through the university and
would love to be able to read them in comfort.
I don't need gaming, browsing and whatnot - for all that a real computer
- Hi Lotta,
I whish I were on my way to Sweden. Then maybe we could meet over a cup
of coffee somewhere, and I would gladly let you have a closer look at my
jetBook Lite. It's not that I'm that far away as I live on the island
Bornholm, but I have no errands in Sweden for the time being.
Also please understand that I had no intension to start some war whether
e-ink or a reflective TFT screen is the best choice for you. If you know
what is best in use for you, I couldn't be happier -- I hope you
understand what I'm trying to say here.
>> You should try one of these if have the opportunity.
> That's the problem. Shops hardly have a thing anymore and the stuff
> they actually have you have to fight to get a look at. They don't
> want to break the package! When it comes to e-book readers I haven't
> seen them in shops yet. Ordering over the net is the only solution.
> Pretty much sucks.
- Torben Joergensen wrote:
>I whish I were on my way to Sweden. Then maybe we could meet over a cupThat's very nice of you, but I'm afraid I'm too shy for IRL
>of coffee somewhere, and I would gladly let you have a closer look at my
>jetBook Lite. It's not that I'm that far away as I live on the island
>Bornholm, but I have no errands in Sweden for the time being.
encounters anyway. ;-o)
>Also please understand that I had no intension to start some war whetherNo no, I didn't take it that way at all. Hope something I said didn't
>e-ink or a reflective TFT screen is the best choice for you. If you know
>what is best in use for you, I couldn't be happier -- I hope you
>understand what I'm trying to say here.
make you think so. I'm genuinely grateful for the information. You've
helped me a lot with this and given me a few new ideas.
All these portable things are mainly summer toys for me and the
summer is 7 months away. Come that time, maybe prices will be lower
and more stuff available in shops so I can check some out physically.
You've given me much to ponder until then.
BTW that eKitaab was rather nice but turned out to be abandoned.
Found two others that could work, simple but OK. eLibrary (another SF
project) and the freeware bookTome.