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Re: [NTO] Squiggly fonts on TFT

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  • sisterscape
    Have you enabled font smoothing?
    Message 1 of 42 , Aug 23 8:40 AM
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      Have you enabled font smoothing?

      --- On Sun, 8/23/09, loro <tabbie@...> wrote:

      > From: loro <tabbie@...>
      > Subject: [NTO] Squiggly fonts on TFT
      > To: ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 10:22 AM
      > Hi!
      > Believe it or not, but until recently I've only used CRT
      > screens, so
      > I don't know much about TFT ones. Earlier this summer I
      > bought a
      > small ASUS EEE. I noticed fonts sometimes were sort of
      > squiggly and
      > hard to read. I thought, well, it's such a tiny screen and
      > the whole
      > thing didn't cost very much, you get what you pay for.
      > This week I bought a 24" BenQ. What an improvement over my
      > old tired
      > CRT! But it has exactly the same problem as the small
      > Netbook. OK,
      > BenQ isn't top of the line maybe and their screens are
      > cheapish, but
      > they are supposed to be good. It's too odd that it has
      > exactly the
      > same problem as the 10" ASUS.
      > I'll try to describe the problem a little closer. It's
      > especially
      > noticeable for fonts used in program interfaces. Alas
      > Notetab is
      > affected. The menu bar and the menus are almost totally
      > unaffected.
      > The captions on the tabs are definitely affected and also
      > text in
      > Options. It gets worse if the document is focused so the
      > tab
      > background turns to a lighter gray. At least I can read,
      > but I have
      > other programs where it's even worse.
      > I think I've narrowed it down. It seems to happen when the
      > font is
      > very thin, has very thin lines. I originally used MS Sans
      > Serif for
      > the Clip list and the Quick List. I've always found that
      > font very
      > crisp and readable at small sizes. Not now - horrible. I
      > changed to
      > Arial at the same small size, 8pt, and all is well again.
      > To describe how it looks, well, it looks squiggly, jaggy,
      > not
      > pixelated but close to, and it makes the letters look
      > fainter, not as
      > black as they should be. If there is a colored background,
      > as the
      > classic gray I use for programs, you can also see what
      > looks like
      > white artefacts. Small spots of white close to some
      > letters. It also
      > happens to some icons where it shows as very thin white
      > "shadow" line
      > or small white blotches, I think where the icon already has
      > a very
      > thin line. For example the W(ordwrap) and Spell checker
      > icons in Notetab.
      > The undesirable effect can also be seen otherwise, for
      > example on web
      > pages, but it isn't common. Then there can also be colored
      > blotches.
      > On one site where I noticed it, every instance of double l
      > had a
      > turquoise color between the two letters. The background was
      > white but
      > probably not pure white, so I guess the color of the
      > blotches are
      > picked up from the background.
      > Now to my questions. Is this problem typical for TFT
      > screens and can
      > something be done about it? I can't believe that two so
      > different
      > screens would be faulty in exactly the same way. Oh, I
      > should mention
      > I have font smoothing on and use ClearType.
      > Sorry for the long post, but I didn't know how to describe
      > it.
      > Lotta
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    • Axel Berger
      ... The main thing is that all that asks the wrong question. What one really needs to know ist what the window dimensions are, the screen is beside the point.
      Message 42 of 42 , Aug 27 11:45 AM
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        Greg Chapman wrote:
        > Someone will have to tell me exactly how those figures are
        > derived and whether they have any meaning in the modern world.

        The main thing is that all that asks the wrong question. What one really
        needs to know ist what the window dimensions are, the screen is beside
        the point. There even are people running a virtual screen several times
        the size of the physical one so they can scroll between their windows or
        for a two-screen setup. Imagine their joy, when some script opens a
        window at full screen and without resize.

        Sadly it is far easier to ask for the screen dimensions than the window
        ones, which are one the things older IE versions did differently from
        everybody else. All too many Javascripters ask for screen dimensions and
        do things that are wrong for the window. Zooming in new IE and Opera
        versions makes things even more difficult but manageable.

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