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RE: [NTO] Hard Drive Problems

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  • Bob Janes
    Hi Larry, ... Sounds to me like the CMOS battery has run down and you ve lost the settings for the hard drive. (The CMOS holds the information on how the hard
    Message 1 of 6 , Apr 27, 2000
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      Hi Larry,

      > It has 4 MB Ram, I remember when that was a lot!, and a 117 MB Hard
      > Drive. My problem is that the hard drive appears to be toast.

      Sounds to me like the CMOS battery has run down and you've lost the settings
      for the hard drive. (The CMOS holds the information on how the hard drive is
      formatted in terms of cylinders, platters, heads, etc.) I had this happen
      once with similar symptoms and trashed the data on the hard drive before I
      worked out what had happened.

      If this is the problem then the cure is to replace the CMOS battery, later
      ones are clip in, some early ones are soldered -- all are replaceable. Boot
      from a floppy, enter the CMOS set-up (sometimes easier said than done) and
      re-set the hard disk parameters to match up with your disk. Sometimes the
      parameters are printed on the disk, sometimes on a scrap of paper that's
      long since lost -- in the latter case you could try Samsung with the drive
      model number, or better go to your local PC store and buy a replacement
      (probably bigger) HDD for a few dollars.

      Best wishes

      Bob

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      Bob Janes
      Webster & Janes Ltd
      PO Box 211 Welwyn AL6 0EX UK
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    • Jim Hall
      Hi Larry, If you have to reset the time and date everytime you power up the computer then the battery on the motherboard needs replacing and it will not
      Message 2 of 6 , Apr 27, 2000
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        Hi Larry,


        If you have to reset the time and date everytime you power up the computer then the battery on the motherboard needs replacing and it will not remember your BIOS setup (the type of hard drive you have etc).

        To get to the BIOS (NVR Non Volatile Ram) settings on that vintage you might have to run a NVRsetup.EXE or something similar

        If pressing DEL at bootup don't work try one of these:

        F1 thru F4
        Shift + F1 thru F4
        Ctrl+ F1 thru F4

        for more info check out these sites

        http://www.sosimple.com/service/bbs.htm

        http://www.driverguide.com/boards/samsung/index.htm

        http://www.ncsc.dni.us/fun/user/tcc/cmuseum/helpline/cartman.htm



        Run FDISK AND check out your partitions see below


        TECHNICAL NOTE
        RE: HARD DRIVES LARGER THAN 528 MILLION BYTES


        BEFORE BEGINNING YOUR HARD DRIVE INSTALLATION, YOU WILL
        NEED TO VERIFY WHETHER OR NOT YOUR CMOS SETTINGS POSSESS
        THE LBA (LOGICAL BLOCK ADDRESSING) OPTION (CONTACT YOUR
        COMPUTER'S MANUFACTURER OR DEALER). IF THE COPYRIGHT OF
        YOUR BIOS IS OLDER THAN 1994, IT IS LIKELY THAT YOU DO NOT
        HAVE LBA. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE LBA, YOU WILL NEED THE DISK
        MANAGER PROGRAM. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE DISK MANAGER, CALL
        (800)446-0262 AND A COPY OF DISK MANAGER FOR SAMSUNG HARD
        DRIVES WILL BE PROVIDED AT YOUR REQUEST. YOU WILL NEED
        TO ENABLE LBA OR RUN DISK MANAGER IN ORDER TO SEE THE FULL
        CAPACITY OF YOUR NEW HARD DRIVE!

        IF DRIVE HAS ALREADY BEEN FORMATTED TO 528 MEGABYTES:

        A) RUN DISK MANAGER

        OR

        B) FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS BELOW

        1) Check for correct cylinders heads and sectors. Enable LBA in CMOS.
        2) Run FDISK option 4 to display partition information. Make
        sure that drive is at the correct capacity and showing 100%
        usage.
        3) If CMOS settings are correct but FDISK shows a drive
        capacity of 504Mb or less, you will need to delete all pre-
        existing partitions by running FDISK option #3..
        4) After verifying that no partitions exist (FDISK option
        #4), type FDISK/MBR from a DOS prompt. If there is a "Cannot
        write to boot sector" or similar error message before returning
        to your DOS prompt, disable "BOOT SECTOR PROTECT" in your CMOS.
        Then try again.
        5) FDISK and create primary DOS partition. After verifying
        the correct capacity via FDISK option 4, format your hard
        drive.

        NOTE: MEGABYTES = MILLIONS OF BYTES/1024/1024




        Try the settings for a 105MB or a 120MB drive


        Samsung Hard Disk Paramaters Quick Reference Guide


        Ú MODEL CAPACITY CYLINDERS HEADS SECTORS AVG SEEK TRANSFER TYPE ÄÄÄÄ¿
        SHD-2040N 43MB 820 4 26 39ms 7.5MB/sec ST-506/412
        SHD-2041B 47MB 900 6 17 25ms IDE
        SHD-3061A 60MB 977 7 17 16ms 6MB/sec IDE
        SHD-3062A 120MB 917 or 927 15 17 16ms 6MB/sec IDE
        SHD-3101A 105MB 776 8 33 16ms 6MB/sec IDE
        SHD-3121A 125MB 615 16 25 16ms 8MB/sec IDE
        SHD-3122A 251MB 937 15 35 16ms 8MB/sec IDE
        SHD-3122S 250MB SCSI
        SHD-3171A 178MB 968 8 45 13ms 8MB/sec IDE
        SHD-3172A 356MB 968 16 45 13ms 8MB/sec IDE
        SHD-3172S 350MB SCSI
        SHD-3201S 212MB 1376 7 43 16ms SCSI
        SHD-3202S 212MB 1376 7 43 16ms SCSI
        SHD-3211A 213MB 1002 8 52 13ms 8MB/sec IDE
        SHD-3212A 426MB 1002 16 52 13ms 8MB/sec IDE
        SHD-3281A 280MB IDE
        SHD-3281S 280MB SCSI
        SHD-3282A 560MB IDE
        SHD-3282S 560MB SCSI
        SHD-30280A 280MB 869 10 63 12ms 11MB/sec EIDE
        SHD-30420A 420MB 856 16 60 12ms 11MB/sec EIDE
        SHD-30560A 560MB 1024 Ä¿ 16 63 12ms 11MB/sec EIDE
        ÀÄ 1086 w/Enhanced IDE controller or LBA
        PLS-30424A 420MB? 823 16 63 11ms 11MB/sec EIDE
        PLS-30540A 540MB 11ms 11MB/sec EIDE
        PLS-30730A 730MB 11ms 11MB/sec EIDE
        PLS-30850A/S 850MB 11ms 11-A/10-S EIDE/SCSI
        PLS-30854A/S 850MB 1647 16 63 11ms 13-A/10-S EIDE/SCSI
        PLS-31084A/S 1080MB 2093 16 63 11ms 13-A/10-S EIDE/SCSI
        PLS-31274A 1273MB 2466 16 63 11ms 11MB/sec EIDE
        À MODEL CAPACITY CYLINDERS HEADS SECTORS AVG SEEK TRANSFER TYPE ÄÄÄÄÙ
        úúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúú
        ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ IDE Jumper Settings ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

        SHD Series Drives ÄÄÄÄÄ 1 Drive 2 Drive Master 2 Drive Slave

        ø ø DXX ø ø DXX ø ø DXX
        ø ø DCF ø ø DCF ø ø DCF
        ø ø DSP ßßß DSP ø ø DSP
        ßßß C/D ßßß C/D ø ø C/D
        úúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúú
        PLS Series Drives ÄÄÄÄÄ 1 Drive 2 Drive Master 2 Drive Slave

        ø ø ø ø ø ø
        ø ø ø ø ø ø
        ø ø ø ø ø ø
        ø ø CSEL ø ø CSEL ø ø CSEL
        ø ø DXX ø ø DXX ø ø DXX
        ø ø DCF ø ø DCF ø ø DCF
        ø ø DSP ø ø DSP ø ø DSP
        ßßß C/D ßßß C/D ø ø C/D

        Note: The DSP jumper on a PLS drive is only jumpered if the slave
        drive does not use DASP technology. This means that if the slave
        drive does not have a jumper to signal that it is a slave, then the
        DSP jumper is used on the PLS drive. A CD-ROM would be an example
        of this.




        Regards,

        Jim


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