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  • Steve Howes
    I downloaded the latest version of it and see that my License is Permanent and Registration: Full and the way I read it the program is now free. I wish I had
    Message 1 of 18 , Aug 30, 2001
      I downloaded the latest version of it and see that my License is Permanent and Registration: Full and the way I read it the program is now free. I wish I had found this email program sooner! And it is a shame that development will not be continuing... though I see the source code is up for grabs...

      LnL,
      Steve - Cheltenham, UK

      PS Is there a reason this group is HTML when the other NTB groups are text only... or is it my settings? Anyone know ? Jody ?

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      On 30/08/01 at 04:28 Marcus wrote:
      Hey folks,

      I just went to upgrade Calypso E-Mail and it says development is being
      discontinued. I wonder if you can use it for free now?

      Since I'm registered I can't verify. It's worth checking out. I used
      the previous version for months and it was very stable, and I've used
      the program for almost 4 years now.

      Marcus



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    • Marcus
      ... I think the program is excellent and the main problem was that they did not market Calypso enough. I was always surprised that other programs which were no
      Message 2 of 18 , Aug 30, 2001
        On 30.08.01 at 08:13 Steve Howes wrote:
        >I wish I had found this email program sooner! And it is a shame
        >that development will not be continuing...

        I think the program is excellent and the main problem was that they did
        not market Calypso enough. I was always surprised that other programs
        which were no where near as professional had more presence...but their
        marketing was the reason for sure.

        On the other hand I was surprised they developed Calypso in the first
        place because MCS actually specialised in Unix to Windows
        communication/networking tools, and not Windows desktop applications.

        >though I see the source code is
        >up for grabs...

        Maybe someone will take it up. On the other hand, what would there be
        to add feature-wise anyway ? :-)

        Btw, I discovered quite late that Calypso has seamless PGP 6+
        integration, but you might not notice until you install PGP 6 and a new
        menu and buttons appear.

        Marcus
      • LaurieK
        ... only... or is it my settings? Anyone know ? Jody ? ... Yes, Steve, its your settings... I just realized this last week, thanks to help from others. Go
        Message 3 of 18 , Aug 30, 2001
          > Steve - Cheltenham, UK
          >
          > PS Is there a reason this group is HTML when the other NTB groups are text
          only... or is it my settings? Anyone know ? Jody ?
          >

          Yes, Steve, its your settings... I just realized this last week, thanks to
          help from others. Go to http://groups.yahoo.com and then to MY GROUPS,
          select the NTO group and then go to your preferences and select plain or
          HTML .. select to get individual emails or sent in a digest.

          my NTB was coming in digest and I thought that was the way to go. Then when
          I joined the bazillion others, i was getting individual emails and getting
          flooded, thought this is for the birds, checked preferences and sure enough,
          it was not JODY sending out a digest but my PREFERENCES dictated so... I
          made them all digests. Hated it and all are no individual emails. Its
          easier to reply if its individual and easier to read, not having to scroll
          endlessly when there are a lot of posts at once.

          Just some FYI stuff :)

          Laurie
          From the Dallas, Texas region of the world... Are you close to
          Manchester/London?
        • alice ttlg
          ... And then go to MyPreferences and make your default setting Don t change the format of email sent to me , then when you join a new group, you ll
          Message 4 of 18 , Aug 30, 2001
            LaurieK wrote:
            > Yes, Steve, its your settings... I just realized this last week, thanks to
            > help from others. Go to http://groups.yahoo.com and then to MY GROUPS,
            > select the NTO group and then go to your preferences and select plain or
            > HTML .. select to get individual emails or sent in a digest.

            And then go to MyPreferences and make your default setting "Don't change the
            format of email sent to me", then when you join a new group, you'll
            automatically be set to plain text.

            alice ttlg

            http://www.populli.net/
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            Instant gratification takes too long. -- Carrie Fisher
          • Steve Howes
            I went to Yahoogroups... and discovered ntb-offtopic wasn t in my lists of groups... I guess I joined by email and somehow it wasn t added to my list. LnL,
            Message 5 of 18 , Aug 30, 2001
              I went to Yahoogroups... and discovered ntb-offtopic wasn't in my lists of groups... I guess I joined by email and somehow it wasn't added to my list.

              LnL,
              Steve - Cheltenham, UK


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              On 30/08/01 at 10:22 alice ttlg wrote:
              LaurieK wrote:
              > Yes, Steve, its your settings... I just realized this last week, thanks to
              > help from others. Go to http://groups.yahoo.com and then to MY GROUPS,
              > select the NTO group and then go to your preferences and select plain or
              > HTML .. select to get individual emails or sent in a digest.

              And then go to MyPreferences and make your default setting "Don't change the
              format of email sent to me", then when you join a new group, you'll
              automatically be set to plain text.



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            • Jody
              Hi LaurieK, ... Yes, very true and you don t stand the chance of forgetting to rename the subject thread. You also don t have to wait 24hrs or till the
              Message 6 of 18 , Aug 30, 2001
                Hi LaurieK,

                >Its easier to reply if its individual and easier to read, not
                >having to scroll endlessly when there are a lot of posts at once.

                Yes, very true and you don't stand the chance of forgetting to
                rename the subject thread. You also don't have to wait 24hrs or
                till the threshold is met before a digest is sent out.

                Happy Topics,
                Jody

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              • Jody
                Hi Steve, ... I show you on the list; give it some time to update everything. Happy Topics, Jody The NoteTab Off-Topic List
                Message 7 of 18 , Aug 30, 2001
                  Hi Steve,

                  >I went to Yahoogroups... and discovered ntb-offtopic wasn't in my lists of groups... I guess I joined by email and somehow it wasn't added to my list.

                  I show you on the list; give it some time to update everything.


                  Happy Topics,
                  Jody

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                • Steve Howes
                  I set my settings to no conversion as I have on all the lists I am subscribed to and still the posts are in HTML... will give it a couple of days as I know
                  Message 8 of 18 , Aug 30, 2001
                    I set my settings to no conversion as I have on all the lists I am subscribed to and still the posts are in HTML... will give it a couple of days as I know Yahoo can be not all that quick at times :-)

                    LnL,
                    Steve - Cheltenham, UK

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                    On 30/08/01 at 14:24 Jody wrote:
                    Hi Steve,

                    >I went to Yahoogroups... and discovered ntb-offtopic wasn't in my lists of groups... I guess I joined by email and somehow it wasn't added to my list.

                    I show you on the list; give it some time to update everything.


                    Happy Topics,
                    Jody



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                  • alice ttlg
                    ... There is a way to change from digest to individual emails and vice versa and also to no-mail thru email commands. But if you want plain text and you ve
                    Message 9 of 18 , Aug 30, 2001
                      > Do I really need to go through that if I haven't been linked through
                      > Yahoo? Is there a way to get the digest instead of individual e-mails
                      > without linking through Yahoo? (I went to their site and began the
                      > process -- then began to wonder...
                      >
                      > Melvin

                      There is a way to change from digest to individual emails and vice versa and
                      also to no-mail thru email commands. But if you want plain text and you've
                      never linked your address to a Yahoo ID, then the messages will all be html
                      with banner ads because the only way to change to "no conversion" is at the
                      website.

                      Send an email to (blank or not, doesn't matter), be sure to change "listname"
                      to the actual name of the list:

                      subscribe
                      listname-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

                      unsubscribe
                      listname-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

                      digest
                      listname-digest@yahoogroups.com

                      no-mail/web read
                      listname-nomail@yahoogroups.com

                      individual emails
                      listname-normal@yahoogroups.com

                      help (gets you the list description and info about these email commands)
                      listname-help@yahoogroups.com

                      alice ttlg

                      http://www.populli.net/
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                      Instant gratification takes too long. -- Carrie Fisher
                    • Jody
                      Hi Melvin, ... I have not looked at Nettamer. My two most favorite shareware programs are Eudora and PocoMail (even over the freeware). I have Calypso since
                      Message 10 of 18 , Aug 31, 2001
                        Hi Melvin,

                        > Can you say how this compares with Pegasus? Nettamer?

                        I have not looked at Nettamer. My two most favorite shareware
                        programs are Eudora and PocoMail (even over the freeware). I
                        have Calypso since a year or so before MailBag Assistant came out
                        and do not particularly care for it.

                        I think Pegasus is the best freeware I ever played with. If I
                        wasn't so hooked on Eudora for a few features it has, I would
                        even consider running it (but think I would go with PocoMail first.
                        Is Nettamer freeware and if so, do you have a URL handy?

                        Happy Topics,
                        Jody

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                      • Andy Young
                        Hi, I downloaded Calypso. I thought there was a lot of good things about it. I was wondering though ... I am I right in thinking that you can only have one
                        Message 11 of 18 , Aug 31, 2001
                          Hi,
                          I downloaded Calypso. I thought there was a lot of good things about
                          it. I was wondering though ... I am I right in thinking that you can
                          only have one filter for each folder (mailbox)? I use 15 different
                          folders in Outlook and some of those folders have 15 or more filters
                          which send email to those files. Thanks
                          Andy
                        • Steve Howes
                          As I understand the setup you have a set of filters for each mail account. LnL, Steve - Cheltenham, UK * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
                          Message 12 of 18 , Aug 31, 2001
                            As I understand the setup you have a set of filters for each mail account.

                            LnL,
                            Steve - Cheltenham, UK

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                            On 31/08/01 at 12:06 Andy Young wrote:

                            >Hi,
                            >I downloaded Calypso. I thought there was a lot of good things about
                            >it. I was wondering though ... I am I right in thinking that you can
                            >only have one filter for each folder (mailbox)? I use 15 different
                            >folders in Outlook and some of those folders have 15 or more filters
                            >which send email to those files. Thanks
                            >Andy
                          • Melvin Woody
                            Can you say how this compares with Pegasus? Nettamer? Melvin
                            Message 13 of 18 , Aug 31, 2001
                              Can you say how this compares with Pegasus? Nettamer?

                              Melvin

                              Marcus wrote:
                              >
                              > On 30.08.01 at 08:13 Steve Howes wrote:
                              > >I wish I had found this email program sooner! And it is a shame
                              > >that development will not be continuing...
                              >
                              > I think the program is excellent and the main problem was that they did
                              > not market Calypso enough. I was always surprised that other programs
                              > which were no where near as professional had more presence...but their
                              > marketing was the reason for sure.
                              >
                              > On the other hand I was surprised they developed Calypso in the first
                              > place because MCS actually specialised in Unix to Windows
                              > communication/networking tools, and not Windows desktop applications.
                              >
                              > >though I see the source code is
                              > >up for grabs...
                              >
                              > Maybe someone will take it up. On the other hand, what would there be
                              > to add feature-wise anyway ? :-)
                              >
                              > Btw, I discovered quite late that Calypso has seamless PGP 6+
                              > integration, but you might not notice until you install PGP 6 and a new
                              > menu and buttons appear.
                              >
                              > Marcus
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
                            • Melvin Woody
                              Do I really need to go through that if I haven t been linked through Yahoo? Is there a way to get the digest instead of individual e-mails without linking
                              Message 14 of 18 , Aug 31, 2001
                                Do I really need to go through that if I haven't been linked through
                                Yahoo? Is there a way to get the digest instead of individual e-mails
                                without linking through Yahoo? (I went to their site and began the
                                process -- then began to wonder...

                                Melvin

                                alice ttlg wrote:
                                >
                                > LaurieK wrote:
                                > > Yes, Steve, its your settings... I just realized this last week, thanks to
                                > > help from others. Go to http://groups.yahoo.com and then to MY GROUPS,
                                > > select the NTO group and then go to your preferences and select plain or
                                > > HTML .. select to get individual emails or sent in a digest.
                                >
                                > And then go to MyPreferences and make your default setting "Don't change the
                                > format of email sent to me", then when you join a new group, you'll
                                > automatically be set to plain text.
                                >
                                > alice ttlg
                                >
                                > http://www.populli.net/
                                > ~ * ~ * ~ ~ * ~ * ~ ~ * ~ * ~ ~ * ~ * ~ ~ * ~ * ~
                                > Instant gratification takes too long. -- Carrie Fisher
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
                              • Marcus
                                ... I think you are looking for filter definitions . Each filter can have as many definitions as you like, afaik. I define one filter and place all my
                                Message 15 of 18 , Sep 1 6:07 AM
                                  On 31.08.01 at 12:06 Andy Young wrote:
                                  >Hi,
                                  >I downloaded Calypso. I thought there was a lot of good things about
                                  >it. I was wondering though ... I am I right in thinking that you can
                                  >only have one filter for each folder (mailbox)?

                                  I think you are looking for "filter definitions". Each filter can have
                                  as many definitions as you like, afaik. I define one filter and place
                                  all my definitions in there, by right-clicking on the email with "add
                                  to filter" and filling in the info. It makes sense this way because
                                  each account then has a set of definitions in its filter which apply to
                                  it. You can also select that same filter for any other account.

                                  Each Mailbox can have many accounts. Each account has one default
                                  "Filter" which runs at startup.

                                  The Junkyard is a separate filter for spam, which you can run before or
                                  after the other filter. Make sense?
                                  The filters are very configurable.

                                  Marcus
                                • Steve Howes
                                  Also look at the switch to filter and continue filtering options in filter modification dialog. LnL, Steve - Cheltenham, UK * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
                                  Message 16 of 18 , Sep 1 7:47 AM
                                    Also look at the "switch to filter" and "continue filtering" options in filter modification dialog.

                                    LnL,
                                    Steve - Cheltenham, UK

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                                    On 31/08/01 at 19:21 Steve Howes wrote:

                                    >As I understand the setup you have a set of filters for each mail account.
                                    >
                                    >LnL,
                                    >Steve - Cheltenham, UK
                                    >
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                                    >On 31/08/01 at 12:06 Andy Young wrote:
                                    >
                                    >>Hi,
                                    >>I downloaded Calypso. I thought there was a lot of good things about
                                    >>it. I was wondering though ... I am I right in thinking that you can
                                    >>only have one filter for each folder (mailbox)? I use 15 different
                                    >>folders in Outlook and some of those folders have 15 or more filters
                                    >>which send email to those files. Thanks
                                    >>Andy
                                  • Marcus
                                    ... Nettamer looks like a very different kind of package, being a collection of DOS based tools. All the top email programs should be roughly the same in
                                    Message 17 of 18 , Sep 1 4:05 PM
                                      On 31.08.01 at 21:54 Melvin Woody wrote:
                                      >Can you say how this compares with Pegasus? Nettamer?

                                      Nettamer looks like a very different kind of package, being a
                                      collection of DOS based tools.

                                      All the top email programs should be roughly the same in stability and
                                      speed (?). Beyond sending and receiving mail, it's all about mail
                                      management and how that is done. I tried Pegasus and Eudora last year,
                                      but didn't like them more than Calypso. No doubt, both programs are
                                      very good. I'll take a look at some others some time. I think it's all
                                      a matter of personal preferences.

                                      All the more reason to keep recommending our various favourites to each
                                      other so we can try them out.

                                      Marcus
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