Re: [NTO] Thanks for your support and concern
- Hi Ian,
> Replying to Jody from the HTML list.Thanks for bringing it over here! You might want to brief
through this before replying, because you might only feel like me
that the end of it is all that needs replying to. Thank for
admitting when you were wrong. ;)
> ...Garret...It might be called that, but the label is false as we saw from
> With the recent out break of these programs, they have finally
> gained a name now. It's now called 'Spyware'.
the links I posted. We can put names on a lot of things, but
that does not mean what they do or are.
> THE problem is attaching it to the browser and not their ownWell, yes, then keep the focus on it instead of coming up with
> This is THE issue for the whole discussion.
these other things like Shareware authors putting "Spyware" on
their Shareware products and calling them all kinds of names. ;)
>> I believe you are extremely over exaggerating here. Also, II agree, but you did not go into this in your second post. Your
>> believe you are stepping on the rights of a programmer to use
>> whatever legal means he wants to use to make a living.
> Jody, I am raising a ETHICAL / MORAL objection. Suppose you
> work hard to deliver a product to some customer. Then the
> customer calls you to say the product is behaving in ways you
> did neither write nor intend. When you investigated you found
> that some tech-wiz decided he could put his advertizing on your
> program. Would you not be livid?
accusations were unjustified giving Shareware authors a bad name
and since this started with NetCaptor, Adam Stiles in particular.
>> I personally do not use Bannerware because it is veryTrue, we have been over this, but for the benefit of the others
>> distracting for me.
> When NetCaptor was praised, I went to the site and took the
> tour. It looked promising. It said it was add supported. It did
> not say that it used Banerware. If it did, I would not have
> know what it meant. IT DID NOT SAY THAT IT WOULD ADD A PARASITE
> TO IE5.
reading this when Adam Styles was informed about the WEB3000
banner being put on IE5 he immediately took action because he
realized it was wrong and is having the WEB3000 people make him a
>> I am a consumer of Shareware and user of Freeware. I seeCertainly not. I have used it in the past, so I know what it
>> absolutely no threat to the Shareware Industry or to Freeware
>> because of Bannerware.
> If you do not, then I have failed to make the case.
behaves like. It would not matter if I never used it to make a
point, in fact, by me not using it makes my point more valid,
because I am not biased. If I don't use it because it distracts
me and since there is software using it that I would like to use
but don't, I'd rather see it not allowed. However, I *do not*
want to see that happen for the reasons I have stated. Software
programmers should have the right to offer their software in any
form or fashion as long as it is not illegal.
> What more can I say?Well, if you want to say my argument is no good because I do not
use Bannerware, then you might as well throw out 95% of the
reviews you read on software since the writers just try it out
for the most part and are done with it, except NoteTab of course. :)
>> I believe in liberty for people no matter what walk of lifeWith NetCaptor, that is being corrected. As far as the other
>> they are in so long as it does not harm others.
> My premise it that they HAVE BEEN HARMED by the banner
> advertising on IE5 when not being used by the sponsored site.
software, you should get with WEB3000 on that. I agree that
software should not attached itself to other programs without the
user given an option like WebWord does with MS Word. Or like
ClipWriter does with NoteTab.
> Okay we are still confusing his product (or other author's)Re: WEB3000 above. Our fight should be with those people and
> product with a sea change tampering of our environment which is
> larger than any one's product.
perhaps posts to authors that se stuff like WEB3000 did to
encourage them not to use invasive products. NetSonic might be
WEB3000, but I am not sure.
>> Also, I believe thanking the authors for being concerned about:-)
>> their users is in line as well to let them know they are
>> appreciated. Everybody sure knows we sure need more authors
>> like that!!!
> And I like to thank you for you very generous patience with myGreat! So, we have a happy ending? FWIW, Adam Styles is 27 years
> concerns on this whole issue.
> My first response was outrage.
> I followed up by trying to be Paul Revere and warn everyone.
> By now, I hope everyone has the message
old so he wasn't even in his parents mind when you had already
been developing for a few years, so I think he handled the
situation quite well. :) You might want to thank him for that
and give him some suggestions since you feel so strong about it.
The NoteTab Off-Topic List