Re: [NTO] Re: [NTB] What is NoteTab for?
- As I was reading this thread, I remembered back to my use of WordStar 3 (I
think, I still have a copy on 5-1/4" floppy, but do not have a drive for
it.), back in college in the mid-80's. It is basically a text editor with
commands like ^Y, or whatever, wrapped around the desired text. We also had
some funky editor on the mainframe that was a major pain to use. Anyway,
the way WordStar wrapped commands around desired text, made it easy for me
to make sense of HTML. Currently, NoteTab only allows such "command
wrappers" in HTML documents, which are just plain text files, but the
HTML/HTM extension tells the browser that it needs to interpret the
document as a web page. In WordStar the "command wrappers" told the printer
how to print the document. If you look at a WordStar file, it looks much
like an HTML file, but with ^ instead of <>.
As Paul Harder wrote, unless Eric adds a method of adding such printer
control, and/or display control, NoteTab will not do what you ask. One
option I have seen on the list is to save it as an HTML document then open
it in your browser and print it. That would save having to copy it to Word
and then format and print it.
If all you want is underlining, Eric has a clip in the Utilities library
that comes with NoteTab, called underline. Basically it puts an overline on
the line below the text. I use it often, when I need an underline, but do
not need any fancy formatting. I also use it in web pages to have an
underline in text with <pre></pre> tags so that I can keep space or tab
delimited text lined up without any fancy tables, that slow down the
loading of the page.
My wife earns herself lots of frustration using Word, because she wants to
format it as she goes, and cannot get it the way she wants it, then I have
to fix it. (For some reason, I cannot say the words that there is an easier
way, without her hearing some value judgement about her. But that's WAAAAY
I think as has been pointed out, in its current state, NoteTab does not
have the features you desire, for the way you work with documents. For now,
patience for the Gold version, or a change in procedures would get you
closer to what you desire. (I started off working with "format as you go",
and it is hard to unlearn. It affects the way I do web pages, if I get
rushed. So I, and many others know how hard that way of working with
documents is to unlearn.)
At 10:22 AM 01/01/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>I wouldn't need to display actual italics on the screen. Just some wayLarry Hamilton, Jr.
>to mark which text needs to be italicized. Underlining would do (that's
>how I used to do it on my typewriter). Or highlighting or a different
>color type face. Anything to set the italicized text off from the rest
>of the text. For that matter it wouldn't even have to display
>differently. Back in my WordStar days, it just displayed a ^Y character
>(I think that's what it was) at the beginning and end of each string of
>italicized text. And that told the printer to italicize the string.
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- Larry Hamilton wrote:
>If Eric can program a clip or routine that will placate/pacify
> My wife earns herself lots of frustration using Word, because she wants to
> format it as she goes, and cannot get it the way she wants it, then I have
> to fix it. (For some reason, I cannot say the words that there is an easier
> way, without her hearing some value judgement about her. But that's WAAAAY
> off topic!)
spouses, he will be able to retire tomorrow! ... <VBG> from a very
happily married guy!
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(o o) "Starting slow, and coasting downhill from there"
- Hi Clueless in Seattle,
> I still regret that because I got in at the last minute, andWhat am I missing here? Why can't you press the return/enter key?
> hurriedly compiled my list for Eric, I overlooked what is
> probably the most useful of all WordStar commands, Ctrl-N, for
> inserting a blank line in the text.
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- Hi Clueless in Seattle,
>I wouldn't need to display actual italics on the screen. JustWell, then, the HTML solution I provided is the easiest for you,
>some way to mark which text needs to be italicized. Underlining
>would do (that's how I used to do it on my typewriter). Or
>highlighting or a different color type face. Anything to set the
>italicized text off from the rest of the text. For that matter
>it wouldn't even have to display differently. Back in my
>WordStar days, it just displayed a ^Y character (I think that's
>what it was) at the beginning and end of each string of
>italicized text. And that told the printer to italicize the
perhaps, and I or somebody could build you a small simple Library
for it to get started with. Once you learned the code, you could
manually type it like many people do.
But hey, you want ^Y, then you can have it, if you get me the
printer control codes for bold, italic, underline, and some
colors for your printer. Most all, if not all, at least home use
type HPs will use the same code. I do not expect you to
understand the following, but it would be the approach I would
take if I were to build a script to do it.
^!DirectPrint "Title" Data
Prints text directly to the printer, bypassing NoteTab's print
procedure. Uses default printer settings. Title is the text shown
in the Print manager and Data is the text to send directly to the
printer. Data can contain printer control codes.
Eric posted this Clip which does italics on his and my HP. One
would just need to replace your characters first with the correct
printer control codes.
^!Set %Landscape%=^%Esc%&l1O; %Italic%=^%Esc%(s1S; %Normal%=^%Esc%(s0S
^!DirectPrint "Testing..." ^%Landscape%Hello ^%Italic%sunny^%Normal%
The italic code would be the control character "¬" (ESC) plus "(s1S"
Dec Hex Oct Binary Chr % HTML Name
27 1B 33 00011011 ¬ · · ESC - Escape
However, it would be much easier for you to use your ^Y and even
more so Y^ for the stop and convert it to HTML and print from
your browser. :) But why not ^i?i^ <g>
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- Clueless in Seattle wrote in part:
> At least one of the respondents mentioned that that is the job ofAt least one of the respondents was wrong. This is the job of a writer, not
> editors. But I don't write for publication, just for my own amusement, and
> so I don't have an editor who will go through my text and find every string
> that needs to be italicized. That's a job I'd like to turn over to my
an editor, nor a copy editor nor a proofer.
- How about a language interpreter from male left brain to female right brain .... I have the same problem Margie gets something exactly opposite from what I said ... hmmmm is this an epifany ...
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