Loading ...
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.
 

New poll for novial-discussion

Expand Messages
  • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
    Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: Jespersen selekted sink por signifikar 5 (angl-ezi five ). Li
    Message 1 of 23 , Nov 24, 2004
      Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
      novial-discussion group:

      Jespersen selekted 'sink' por
      signifikar 5 (angl-ezi 'five').
      Li "Novial-98 Revision Group" voted at
      changar hum a 'pent' pro ke les kreded
      ke li 's' in 'sink' fiked lum desfasil
      at rekogniar. Kelkes preferar 'quint'
      pro ke 'pent' semblar stranji kom li
      suli (uni) grek-ezi numerum. (Li
      altris es omni latin-ezi.) Quum vu
      pensar? Bonvol selektar un vokablum
      sub-au.

      Se vu selektar 'altrum', bonvol
      kontaktar me por diktar a me kel
      vokablum vu preferar. Me va forsan
      adiar lum a li listum de respondation.
      Altrikas, me va lasar li "poll"
      apertat permanentim.

      Vus vol pov-es konsiderar hums avant
      ke vu respondar:
      sink --> sinkanti (50), un sinkonum
      (1/5)
      pent --> pentanti (50), un pentonum
      (1/5)
      quint --> quintanti (50), un quintonum
      (1/5)


      o sink
      o pent
      o quint
      o altrum (none of the above)


      To vote, please visit the following web page:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=1517031

      Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
      not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
      web site listed above.

      Thanks!
    • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
      Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: Jespersen kreded ke Novial non bezonar signum de akusativ. Sed le kreed li
      Message 2 of 23 , Nov 29, 2004
        Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
        novial-discussion group:

        Jespersen kreded ke Novial non bezonar
        signum de akusativ. Sed le kreed li
        finationum '-m' kel on pov utilizar
        kun nomums e pronomums pro ke le voled
        ke Novial es flektabli. Kelki
        Esperantistes a kel non plesar li
        Esperanti finationum '-n' preferar li
        prepositionum 'na'. Sed altris kredar
        ke on non bezonar nek fination ni
        preposition se on ordinar li vokablums
        in li satsum omni-tem samim. Hum es
        posibli se on utilizar nur li ordinums
        SVO (Me amar vu. I love you.) e OSV
        (Vu me amar. You I love.) Quum vu
        opinar?

        o Tenar li -m finationum.
        o Adoptar li novi prepositionum 'na' de Novi Esperanto.
        o Postular ke omni satsums dev utilizar li ordinum SVO o OSV.
        o Altrum (Nuli del selektionums superau.)


        To vote, please visit the following web page:
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=1524608

        Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
        not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
        web site listed above.

        Thanks!
      • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
        Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: Jespersen kreded ke li pronuntiationum de MS in LUMS o EXEMPLUMS
        Message 3 of 23 , Nov 29, 2004
          Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
          novial-discussion group:

          Jespersen kreded ke li pronuntiationum
          de 'MS' in 'LUMS' o 'EXEMPLUMS' esud
          tro desfasil, dunk le proposed ke li
          plurali formum de ambi LU e LUM devud
          es LUS. Sed kelkes kredar ke li
          pronuntiationum del 'PS'
          in 'PSIKOLOGE' es sami-man desfasil o
          max desfasil kam lum del 'MS'
          in 'LUMS'. Quum vu opinar?


          o LUS devud es li plurali formum de LU e LUMS de LUM
          o LUS devud es li plurali formum de ambi LU e LUMS


          To vote, please visit the following web page:
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=1524629

          Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
          not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
          web site listed above.

          Thanks!
        • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
          Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: Li max multi europi linguums usar li perfekt por deskriptar kum non
          Message 4 of 23 , Mar 9, 2005
            Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
            novial-discussion group:

            Li max multi europi linguums usar li
            perfekt por deskriptar kum non evented
            preteritim mo kum povud ha eventar
            (subjunktiv). Ekz, ME VUD HA VISITAR
            VU SI ME VUD HA SAVAR KE VUS LOJAR HI-
            LOK.

            On povud expresar hum novialez per "ME
            VUD DID VISITAR VU SI ME VUD DID SAVAR
            KE VUS LOJAR HI-LOK" e mem "ME
            VUDED/DIDUD VISITAR VU SI ME
            VUDED/DIDUD SAVAR KE VUS LOJAR HI-LOK."

            Li duesmi es max akurati mo, kontrau,
            non konosat ye nusen linguums.
            Bonvolim selektar kum vu preferar.

            o traditionali vest-europi VUD HA FAR
            o max logikali VUD DID FAR e VUDED
            o altrim ordinat DID VUD FAR e DIDUD
            o 2 & 3
            o omnis


            To vote, please visit the following web page:
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=1700473

            Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
            not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
            web site listed above.

            Thanks!
          • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
            Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: Jespersen kustomed usar li infinitivi form del verb kun HA e BLI mo non
            Message 5 of 23 , Mar 19, 2005
              Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
              novial-discussion group:

              Jespersen kustomed usar li infinitivi
              form del verb kun HA e BLI mo non kun
              ES. Tum es des-naturali, den li
              germani e latinidi linguums on
              permisar tum. Quum vu pensar pri tum?

              o On devud usar li infinitivi form (FAT) kun HA, BLI e ES.
              o On devud usar li pasivi form (FAT) kun HA, BLI e ES kom on far ye li naturi linguums.
              o On devud usar li pasivi form (FAT) kun ES e li infinitivi form BLI e HA kom Jespersen stad far.
              o Altrum (Let vu bonvolim skriptar lum a me)


              To vote, please visit the following web page:
              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=1720026

              Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
              not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
              web site listed above.

              Thanks!
            • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
              Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: Dave ha proposar ke on usar UNANTI, UNANTI-UN, ets. insted DEK, DEK-UN,
              Message 6 of 23 , Apr 25, 2005
                Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
                novial-discussion group:

                Dave ha proposar ke on usar UNANTI, UNANTI-UN, ets. insted
                DEK, DEK-UN, ets. Le kredar ke hum es max boni pro ke lum
                reglifikar li numeral sistem. Mo altres preferar li max
                natural DEK. Bruce akseptar ambis pro ke le kredar ke irgi
                vokablum kreat ek li radik kel Jespersen ha krear dev es
                akseptat kom boni Novial. Quum vu pensar? Si vu selektar 4
                (altri), let vu non olvidar informar me pri kel vun vol
                proposar. Dank, Dave

                o unanti
                o dek
                o ambi
                o altri


                To vote, please visit the following web page:
                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=1791029

                Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
                not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
                web site listed above.

                Thanks!
              • Donald Gasper
                Li svedi Novial-pionere Valter Ahlstedt ha mori in maye. James Chandler ha skripte pri lo in altri liste: Here is flashback to Auxlang past times: the letter I
                Message 7 of 23 , Aug 2, 2005

                  Li svedi Novial-pionere Valter Ahlstedt ha mori in maye.

                  James Chandler ha skripte pri lo in altri liste:

                  Here is flashback to Auxlang past times: the letter I received from
                  Valter
                  Ahlstedt...

                  Date:         Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:23:34 GMT
                  Reply-To:     International Auxiliary Languages
                  <AUXLANG@...>
                  Sender:       International Auxiliary Languages
                  <AUXLANG@...>
                  From:         James Chandler <chandler@...>
                  Subject:      Reply from Valter Ahlstedt


                  Dear all,

                  When Jay Bowks communicated to us the address of Valter Ahlstedt, the
                  last known remaining Novialist, I decided to write him a letter.  I
                  have been honoured to receive a quick reply.  Jay asked me if I could
                  post any reply from him on Auxlang, and I see no problem with that.
                  So here it is:

                  Estimat siniore,

                  Cordiali dankes pro vun letre del 30.10.1997!  It is tre interesanti
                  ke Novial, depos multi yares in silentie, sembla to fir vivificat in
                  nor dies.  Com vu scripte, on pove per inter-rete trovar
                  informationes pri Novial e li mondelingual movemente.  Tali
                  activitates es tre laudandi!

                  Men activi labore pro Novial finad in 1939, quand comensad li duesmi
                  monde-guere.  In Novialiste 10, 1936 a 26/27 1939 me scripted multi
                  articules, criticanti diversi punctues in li gramatike de Novial
                  (ortografie, flexione, vordformatione etc.)  In LJN (Lingue Jurie
                  Novialisti) nos discused disi e otri formes proposit, e multes fid
                  aprobat da profesore Jespersen.  Ma anke disi discusiones fid
                  interruptet per li guere.  Pos li guere nek me ni Ahlberg laborad
                  pro Novial.

                  Me creda ke li maxim bon interlingue deve eser un combinatione del
                  maxim boni tretes in Ido/Novial e Occidental/Interlingua.  Li
                  comense de un tal unificatione esed li discusione inter Jespersen
                  (Novial) e de Wahl (Occidental) in 1935 (Novialiste 6, 1935).
                  Segun men opinione nos besona un lingue, quel combina un plu
                  naturalisanti Novial/Ido con un plu regularisanti Occidental/
                  Interlingua.  Let nos laborar in un tali directione!

                  In januare 1998 me have ninanti (90) yares.  Com vu certim
                  comprende, men activitate interlingual es tre limitat.  Mey li
                  movemente interlingual supervivar nor curti vives!

                                                       Con cordiali salutes
                                                            Valter Ahlstedt

                  It occurs to me that this might indeed be an example of the
                  compromise between Novial and Occidental that he reportedly
                  worked on after the war.  Unfortunately he doesn't answer my
                  question about what Ahlberg did after the war, although I can
                  deduce from this that Ahlberg survived the war.  Does anyone
                  know any more?
                  Still, I think we all ought to salute Valter Ahlstedt for his
                  continued interest in interlinguistics, even at the age of
                  nearly 90.

                  James Chandler.

                   

                   

                    






                  MSN Premium gives you PC protection, junk-mail filters, advanced communication tools and great software like MSN Encarta� Premium. Click here for a FREE trial!
                • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
                  Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: Harry ha sugerar (sujerar) ke on chanjar li Jespersenali
                  Message 8 of 23 , Oct 8, 2005
                    Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
                    novial-discussion group:

                    Harry ha sugerar (sujerar) ke on chanjar li Jespersenali preposition-finationum "-U" al "-AU" por evitar konfusionum ye li fination "-U" ye konkreti, non-animati nomums. Exemplim, in traditionali Novial on pov usar "extru" insted "exter li hausu", mo Harry vud chanjar hum (disum) a "extrau" o "exterau". Seterim, Harry vol extendar hum (disum) a verbums anke. Dunke, on povud diktar a mikri infant od "Let vu non batar vun fratre!" o "Let vu non batar-au!" (kel semblar, strukuralim, anglezi "Don't hit!") Quum vu pensar pri hum? Let vu bonvolim selektar uni o plus del selektionums subu/sub-au.


                    o Let -U ye preposition devenir -AU e let lum bli usar ye verb anke.
                    o Let -U ye preposition devenir -AU mo non let vu bli usar ye verb.
                    o Let -U restar kom lum es, e non let vu bli usar ye verb.
                    o Let -U restar kom lum es, mo let lum bli usar ye verb anke.
                    o Altrum. (Me non prisar uli selektionums superu/super-au.)


                    To vote, please visit the following web page:
                    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=2002240

                    Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
                    not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
                    web site listed above.

                    Thanks!
                  • Bruce Gilson
                    On 8 Oct 2005 12:20:24 -0000, novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
                    Message 9 of 23 , Oct 8, 2005
                      On 8 Oct 2005 12:20:24 -0000, novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com < novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                      Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
                      novial-discussion group:

                      Harry ha sugerar (sujerar) ke on chanjar li Jespersenali preposition-finationum "-U" al "-AU" por evitar konfusionum ye li fination "-U" ye konkreti, non-animati nomums. Exemplim, in traditionali Novial on pov usar "extru" insted "exter li hausu", mo Harry vud chanjar hum (disum) a "extrau" o "exterau". Seterim, Harry vol extendar hum (disum) a verbums anke. Dunke, on povud diktar a mikri infant od "Let vu non batar vun fratre!" o "Let vu non batar-au!" (kel semblar, strukuralim, anglezi "Don't hit!") Quum vu pensar pri hum? Let vu bonvolim selektar uni o plus del selektionums subu/sub-au.


                      o Let -U ye preposition devenir -AU e let lum bli usar ye verb anke.
                      o Let -U ye preposition devenir -AU mo non let vu bli usar ye verb.
                      o Let -U restar kom lum es, e non let vu bli usar ye verb.
                      o Let -U restar kom lum es, mo let lum bli usar ye verb anke.
                      o Altrum. (Me non prisar uli selektionums superu/super-au.)
                       
                      My own preference is not to use -au but to use -im. Note that in Jespersen's Novial, when an adverb is made from an adjective, -im is the ending, but when an adverb is made from a preposition, the ending is -u. Could we add this choice to the poll?
                       
                       
                      --
                                                
                                                                                           Bruce R. Gilson
                                                                                           brg1942@...
                                                                                           brg@...
                                                                                          
                    • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
                      Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: Jespersen non inklused Z in Novial pro ke le kreded ke diferentiar /s/
                      Message 10 of 23 , Oct 29, 2005
                        Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
                        novial-discussion group:

                        Jespersen non inklused 'Z' in Novial pro ke le kreded ke diferentiar /s/ fro /z/ vud es tro desfasil a spanezes. Dunke, on pov pronunsar (devud es 'pronuntiar' kel me non prisar) 'S' kom et /s/ e /z/. Le sami-man omised 'W' pro ke pluri europani linguums non diferentiar /v/ fro /w/. Similim, 'CH' e 'SH' blid grupar kunim kom uni fonemum kel bli pronuntiar od /tsh/ o /sh/. Ob vus konkordar? O ob vu preferar chanjar omni o kelki kasums super-au/supru? ***Let vu atentar ke on pov selektar plus kam uni! (***Please note that you can choose more than one answer!)



                        o Let 'Z' bli adir e let lum bli pronuntiar kom /z/ konter 'S' kel devud bli omni-foy pronuntiar kom /s/. (***Let vu bonvolim selektar nur uni preferatum pri S/Z***)
                        o Let 'Z' non bli adir, e let 'S' kontinuar bli pronuntiar kom et /z/ e /s/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar.
                        o Let 'Z' bli adir, mo let 'S' e 'Z' bli pronuntiar kom od /z/ o /s/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar (kom nus ja far ye CH/SH).
                        o Let 'W' bli adir e let lum bli pronuntiar kom /w/ konter 'V' kel devud bli omni-foy pronuntiar kom /v/. (***Let vu bonvolim selektar nur uni preferatum pri V/W***)
                        o Let 'W' non bli adir, e let 'V' bli pronuntiar kom et /v/ e /w/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar.
                        o Let 'W' non bli adir, e let 'V' kontinuar bli pronuntiar nur kom /v/.
                        o Let 'W' bli adir, mo let 'V' e 'W' bli pronuntiar kom od /v/ o /w/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar (kom hi-temp ye CH/SH).
                        o Let li situation ye CH/SH restar kom lum es. (Ambi letrus e ambi suonus es akseptat, e ambis es konsiderat kom li sami fonem.) ***Let vu bonvolim selektar nur uni preferatum pri CH/SH***
                        o Let nus for-jetar CH e usar nur SH kel devud bli pronuntiar nur kom /sh/ ('C' non existar sulim/solim/non-dependantim, dunke nus povud talim eliminar lu totim fro skriptet Novial.)
                        o Let nus for-jetar CH e usar nur SH kel nus vud pronuntiar od kom /sh/ o kom /tsh/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar. (Me prediktar ke nule va selektar hum!)
                        o Let nus for-jetar SH e usar nur CH kel nus vud pronuntiar od kom /sh/ o kom /tsh/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar.
                        o Let omnum restar kom lum es. (Vu pov selektar li tre apti option super-au/supru o jus hum/dise por sparar vun temp.)


                        To vote, please visit the following web page:
                        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=2026929

                        Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
                        not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
                        web site listed above.

                        Thanks!
                      • jacquesdehe
                        Hi everybody I just voted for seeing what decided the majority of the confirmed members. My votes without being to consider does not change the decision of the
                        Message 11 of 23 , Oct 30, 2005
                          Hi everybody

                          I just voted for seeing what decided the majority

                          of the confirmed members.

                          My votes without being to consider

                          does not change the decision of the majority:

                          Incidentally my votes just coincide with those

                          already expressed by the majority !

                          I don't know wether the votes are closed.

                          Are they ?

                          Best regards,

                          Jacques

                          * * * * * * *


                          --- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, novial-
                          discussion@yahoogroups.com wrote:
                          >
                          >
                          > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
                          > novial-discussion group:
                          >
                          > Jespersen non inklused 'Z' in Novial pro ke le kreded ke
                          diferentiar /s/ fro /z/ vud es tro desfasil a spanezes. Dunke, on
                          pov pronunsar (devud es 'pronuntiar' kel me non prisar) 'S' kom
                          et /s/ e /z/. Le sami-man omised 'W' pro ke pluri europani linguums
                          non diferentiar /v/ fro /w/. Similim, 'CH' e 'SH' blid grupar kunim
                          kom uni fonemum kel bli pronuntiar od /tsh/ o /sh/. Ob vus
                          konkordar? O ob vu preferar chanjar omni o kelki kasums super-
                          au/supru? ***Let vu atentar ke on pov selektar plus kam uni!
                          (***Please note that you can choose more than one answer!)
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > o Let 'Z' bli adir e let lum bli pronuntiar kom /z/ konter 'S'
                          kel devud bli omni-foy pronuntiar kom /s/. (***Let vu bonvolim
                          selektar nur uni preferatum pri S/Z***)
                          > o Let 'Z' non bli adir, e let 'S' kontinuar bli pronuntiar kom
                          et /z/ e /s/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar.
                          > o Let 'Z' bli adir, mo let 'S' e 'Z' bli pronuntiar kom od /z/
                          o /s/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar (kom nus ja far ye CH/SH).
                          > o Let 'W' bli adir e let lum bli pronuntiar kom /w/ konter 'V'
                          kel devud bli omni-foy pronuntiar kom /v/. (***Let vu bonvolim
                          selektar nur uni preferatum pri V/W***)
                          > o Let 'W' non bli adir, e let 'V' bli pronuntiar kom et /v/
                          e /w/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar.
                          > o Let 'W' non bli adir, e let 'V' kontinuar bli pronuntiar nur
                          kom /v/.
                          > o Let 'W' bli adir, mo let 'V' e 'W' bli pronuntiar kom od /v/
                          o /w/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar (kom hi-temp ye CH/SH).
                          > o Let li situation ye CH/SH restar kom lum es. (Ambi letrus e
                          ambi suonus es akseptat, e ambis es konsiderat kom li sami fonem.)
                          ***Let vu bonvolim selektar nur uni preferatum pri CH/SH***
                          > o Let nus for-jetar CH e usar nur SH kel devud bli pronuntiar
                          nur kom /sh/ ('C' non existar sulim/solim/non-dependantim, dunke nus
                          povud talim eliminar lu totim fro skriptet Novial.)
                          > o Let nus for-jetar CH e usar nur SH kel nus vud pronuntiar od
                          kom /sh/ o kom /tsh/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar. (Me prediktar
                          ke nule va selektar hum!)
                          > o Let nus for-jetar SH e usar nur CH kel nus vud pronuntiar od
                          kom /sh/ o kom /tsh/ segun ke chaki parlere preferar.
                          > o Let omnum restar kom lum es. (Vu pov selektar li tre apti
                          option super-au/supru o jus hum/dise por sparar vun temp.)
                          >
                          >
                          > To vote, please visit the following web page:
                          > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=2026929
                          >
                          > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
                          > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
                          > web site listed above.
                          >
                          > Thanks!
                          >
                        • Darwood Horace
                          ... Jacques e altres: Voting stays open indefinetly, and you can change your vote whenever you want. I see no reason to close voting since new members may come
                          Message 12 of 23 , Oct 31, 2005
                            --- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, "jacquesdehe"
                            <jacquesdehe@y...> wrote:
                            > I don't know wether the votes are closed.
                            > Are they ?

                            Jacques e altres:

                            Voting stays open indefinetly, and you can change your vote whenever
                            you want. I see no reason to close voting since new members may come
                            at any time and we can already see the results at any given time
                            without closing the vote.

                            Dave
                          • jacquesdehe
                            Dave, I read: To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=2026929 At the end one can read: Your
                            Message 13 of 23 , Oct 31, 2005
                              Dave,

                              I read: 'To vote, please visit the following web page:
                              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=2026929'
                              At the end one can read:
                              'Your vote is shown above. You can change your vote until the poll
                              is closed.'

                              UNTIL THE POLL IS CLOSED ! ! !

                              * * * * * * *

                              --- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, "Darwood Horace"
                              <novialist@g...> wrote:
                              >
                              > --- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, "jacquesdehe"
                              > <jacquesdehe@y...> wrote:
                              > > I don't know wether the votes are closed.
                              > > Are they ?
                              >
                              > Jacques e altres:
                              >
                              > Voting stays open indefinetly, and you can change your vote
                              whenever
                              > you want. I see no reason to close voting since new members may
                              come
                              > at any time and we can already see the results at any given time
                              > without closing the vote.
                              >
                              > Dave
                              >
                            • Darwood Horace
                              ... As I mentioned, I plan to leave all the polls open indefinitely. Dave
                              Message 14 of 23 , Oct 31, 2005
                                --- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, "jacquesdehe"
                                <jacquesdehe@y...> wrote:
                                > I read: 'To vote, please visit the following web page:
                                > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=2026929'
                                > At the end one can read:
                                > 'Your vote is shown above. You can change your vote until the poll
                                > is closed.'
                                >
                                > UNTIL THE POLL IS CLOSED ! ! !

                                As I mentioned, I plan to leave all the polls open indefinitely.

                                Dave
                              • Bruce Gilson
                                ... That language is supplied by Yahoo! Obviously, whoever runs the group -- in our case, Dave -- has the option to close or not to close the poll at any time.
                                Message 15 of 23 , Nov 1, 2005
                                  On 10/31/05, jacquesdehe <jacquesdehe@...> wrote:
                                  Dave,

                                  I read: 'To vote, please visit the following web page:
                                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=2026929'
                                  At the end one can read:
                                  'Your vote is shown above. You can change your vote until the poll
                                  is closed.'

                                  UNTIL THE POLL IS CLOSED ! ! !

                                  * * * * * * *
                                   
                                  That language is supplied by Yahoo! Obviously, whoever runs the group -- in our case, Dave -- has the option to close or not to close the poll at any time. His preference is unlimited time, but he obviously cannot change boilerplate text that Yahoo! provides!
                                   
                                  --
                                                            
                                                                                                       Bruce R. Gilson
                                                                                                       brg1942@...
                                                                                                       brg@...
                                                                                                      
                                • jacquesdehe
                                  Hi everybody, * A vote -never closed- decides nothing and so Novial would remain totally unprotected. * Best regards, Jacques * ... id=2026929 ... poll ...
                                  Message 16 of 23 , Nov 1, 2005
                                    Hi everybody,

                                    *

                                    A vote -never closed- decides nothing

                                    and so Novial would remain totally unprotected.

                                    *

                                    Best regards,

                                    Jacques

                                    *
                                    --- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Gilson
                                    <brg1942@g...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > On 10/31/05, jacquesdehe <jacquesdehe@y...> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > Dave,
                                    > >
                                    > > I read: 'To vote, please visit the following web page:
                                    > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?
                                    id=2026929'
                                    > > At the end one can read:
                                    > > 'Your vote is shown above. You can change your vote until the
                                    poll
                                    > > is closed.'
                                    > >
                                    > > UNTIL THE POLL IS CLOSED ! ! !
                                    > >
                                    > > * * * * * * *
                                    >
                                    > That language is supplied by Yahoo! Obviously, whoever runs the
                                    group -- in
                                    > our case, Dave -- has the option to close or not to close the poll
                                    at any
                                    > time. His preference is unlimited time, but he obviously cannot
                                    change
                                    > boilerplate text that Yahoo! provides!
                                    > --
                                    >
                                    > Bruce R. Gilson
                                    > brg1942@g...
                                    > brg@p...
                                    >
                                  • nov_ialiste
                                    ... Hi Jacques, I feel at present we are at discussion level kicking ideas around. Around 98- 99 there was a Novial Reform Group. The archives are here:
                                    Message 17 of 23 , Nov 1, 2005
                                      --- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, "jacquesdehe"
                                      <jacquesdehe@y...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > Hi everybody,
                                      >
                                      > *
                                      >
                                      > A vote -never closed- decides nothing
                                      >
                                      > and so Novial would remain totally unprotected.
                                      >
                                      > *
                                      >
                                      > Best regards,
                                      >
                                      > Jacques

                                      Hi Jacques,

                                      I feel at present we are at discussion level kicking ideas around.

                                      Around '98-'99 there was a Novial Reform Group. The archives are here:

                                      http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/novial.html

                                      I was not involved and only began to study Novial 2 years ago in late
                                      '03. It seems that that reform group disbanded due to loss of some
                                      important members and disagreement.

                                      I for one am proceeding cautiously and admittedy I am conservative in
                                      my use of Novial so far.

                                      I have been short of time recently, but am definitely preparing more
                                      comments and suggestions to help your multilingual dictionary project.

                                      Thanks, and keep up the good work!

                                      nov_ialiste
                                    • jacquesdehe
                                      I am waiting for your comments and suggestions concerning the proposed vordes por diskusione e modifikationes with impatience. I am not surprised by what
                                      Message 18 of 23 , Nov 1, 2005
                                        I am waiting for your comments and suggestions

                                        concerning the proposed

                                        'vordes por diskusione e modifikationes'

                                        with impatience.

                                        I am not surprised by what happened

                                        to the reform group

                                        but

                                        * Future is as powerful as a tsunami

                                        * and esperantists' and interlinguaists'

                                        * unfair protectionisms

                                        * are pathetic feathers against Future.

                                        * * * * * * *

                                        In my opinion, even revived,

                                        the mark of Novial must remain

                                        its natural comprehensibility.

                                        *

                                        I hope that in Wiki

                                        no cryptogram will usurp Novial.

                                        Tre kordialim,

                                        Jacques

                                        * * * * * * *

                                        --- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, "nov_ialiste"
                                        <nov_ialiste@y...> wrote:
                                        >
                                        > --- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, "jacquesdehe"
                                        > <jacquesdehe@y...> wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > Hi everybody,
                                        > >
                                        > > *
                                        > >
                                        > > A vote -never closed- decides nothing
                                        > >
                                        > > and so Novial would remain totally unprotected.
                                        > >
                                        > > *
                                        > >
                                        > > Best regards,
                                        > >
                                        > > Jacques
                                        >
                                        > Hi Jacques,
                                        >
                                        > I feel at present we are at discussion level kicking ideas around.
                                        >
                                        > Around '98-'99 there was a Novial Reform Group. The archives are
                                        here:
                                        >
                                        > http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/novial.html
                                        >
                                        > I was not involved and only began to study Novial 2 years ago in
                                        late
                                        > '03. It seems that that reform group disbanded due to loss of some
                                        > important members and disagreement.
                                        >
                                        > I for one am proceeding cautiously and admittedy I am conservative
                                        in
                                        > my use of Novial so far.
                                        >
                                        > I have been short of time recently, but am definitely preparing
                                        more
                                        > comments and suggestions to help your multilingual dictionary
                                        project.
                                        >
                                        > Thanks, and keep up the good work!
                                        >
                                        > nov_ialiste
                                        >
                                      • Bruce Gilson
                                        ... The actual problem was that I was in charge, but because of serious personal problems hat to go away. I tried to install as my successor somewone who I
                                        Message 19 of 23 , Nov 3, 2005
                                          On 11/1/05, nov_ialiste <nov_ialiste@...> wrote:
                                          [...]

                                          Around '98-'99 there was a Novial Reform Group. The archives are here:

                                          http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/novial.html

                                          I was not involved and only began to study Novial 2 years ago in late
                                          '03. It seems that that reform group disbanded due to loss of some
                                          important members and disagreement.
                                           
                                          The actual problem was that I was in charge, but because of serious personal problems hat to go away. I tried to install as my successor somewone who I thought would be worthy, Don Blaheta, but while the transfer was taking place, my contact with him got broken. I still don't really know what happened to Don, but with neither him nor I able to carry on, the group died off.
                                           
                                          I'm still not in a position to give the kind of leadership I was providing, unfortunately.
                                           
                                          There was some disagreement -- James Chandler and Marcus Franco had started their own, somewhat different, Novial-derived languages, but the majority of the group had a common direction, and had I not had my problems or had Don been able to take over, we would probably have had a final product in 1999 or 2000. 

                                          --
                                                                    
                                                                                                               Bruce R. Gilson
                                                                                                               brg1942@...
                                                                                                               brg@...
                                                                                                              
                                        • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
                                          Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: Among the changes made by the Novial-98 Revision Group several years ago
                                          Message 20 of 23 , Dec 2, 2005
                                            Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
                                            novial-discussion group:

                                            Among the changes made by the Novial-98 Revision Group several years ago was that the
                                            -ATR- suffix, meaning "similar to, resembling" was changed to
                                            -OID- in an effort to provide a more universally recognizable form. Which form do you prefer? If you vote "ALTRUM", please email Dave to let him know what you have in mind. Thanks.
                                            **-***-**-***-**-***-**-***-**-***-**-***-**-***-**-***
                                            Uni ek li revision kel li membres del grup "Novial 98" fad ante kelki yar esed ke li sufix
                                            -ATR- blid remplasar ye -OID- kel sembled max rekogni-bli a omnes. Qui form vu preferar? Si vu votar "ALTRUM", let vu informar Dave pri vun preferation. Dank.

                                            o -ATR-
                                            o -OID-
                                            o altrum


                                            To vote, please visit the following web page:
                                            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=2064721

                                            Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
                                            not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
                                            web site listed above.

                                            Thanks!
                                          • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
                                            Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: Expresion signifikant There is / There are / Il y a / Es gibt / Hay
                                            Message 21 of 23 , Dec 4, 2005
                                              Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
                                              novial-discussion group:

                                              Expresion signifikant "There is"/"There are"/"Il y a"/"Es gibt"/"Hay" mankar ye Novial. Kelkes usar "Es X" malgrey ke tum violar li korekti ordinum de SVO/OSV. Alternativi idey es ke on usar "Hav X" kel semblar fransezi "Il y a" e non-standard jermanezi "Es hat". Triesmi idey es usar "X existar" kel es forsan li max universal inter li vest-europani linguums. Let vu bonvolim selektar nur uni sub-au/subu.

                                              o Es X
                                              o Hav X
                                              o X existar
                                              o Et 'Hav X' e 'X existar'
                                              o Et 'Es X' e 'X existar'
                                              o Et 'Es X' e 'Hav X'
                                              o Omnis


                                              To vote, please visit the following web page:
                                              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=2066503

                                              Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
                                              not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
                                              web site listed above.

                                              Thanks!
                                            • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
                                              Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: Kelki listanes kredar ke Novial devud es basat totim ye romanidi/latinidi
                                              Message 22 of 23 , Jan 13, 2006
                                                Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
                                                novial-discussion group:

                                                Kelki listanes kredar ke Novial devud es basat totim ye romanidi/latinidi radik. Les vol ekartar/for-jetar germanidi vortums e remplasar lums ye fransezums o ultri latinidums. Altres preferar ke Novial restar ambi-formi. Ankore altres pov-es preferar ke Novial adoptar slavezi vokablums pro ke li germanidi e romanidi grup non es li suli/soli linguums de Europ. Quum vu preferar?
                                                -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
                                                Some list members believe Novial should be based completely on Romance forms and that all "Germanisms" (items deriving from Germanic languages) should be thrown out and replaced by Romance forms. Others prefer that Novial retain its dual (Romance/Germanic) nature. Yet others might prefer that Novial adopt Slavic items and those from yet other groups in the view that the Germanic and Romance families are not the only ones existing in Europe. What is your opinion?


                                                o Novial should be Romance-based.
                                                o Novial should be based primarily on Romance and Germanic forms.
                                                o Novial should be based primarily on English and French, the two most international European languages.
                                                o Novial should be based on all the language families of Europe, including Slavic and others.
                                                o Other choice (Please let me know. Perhaps I'll add it.)


                                                To vote, please visit the following web page:
                                                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=2103386

                                                Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
                                                not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
                                                web site listed above.

                                                Thanks!
                                              • novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
                                                Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the novial-discussion group: What kind of texts in Novial would be interesting for you? Qui textes in
                                                Message 23 of 23 , Dec 22, 2008
                                                  Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
                                                  novial-discussion group:

                                                  What kind of texts in Novial would be interesting for you?
                                                  Qui textes in Novial vud interesa vu?

                                                  o We should write original literature in Novial / Nus deve skripte originali literature in Novial
                                                  o Translations of famous novels / Traduktiones fro famosi romanes
                                                  o Translations of short stories / Traduktiones fro kurti rakontes
                                                  o Translations of poems / Tradutiones fro poemes
                                                  o Fairy tales / Fea rakontes
                                                  o Newspaper articles / Jurnal artikles
                                                  o Short news texts / Kurti novim textes
                                                  o Linguistic texts / Lingual textes
                                                  o Something else / Kelkum altrum
                                                  o I am not interested in Novial texts / Me non have interese pri Novial textes


                                                  To vote, please visit the following web page:
                                                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novial-discussion/surveys?id=2804911

                                                  Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
                                                  not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
                                                  web site listed above.

                                                  Thanks!
                                                Your message has been successfully submitted and would be delivered to recipients shortly.