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  • Lee Underwood
    Another good site for some basic templates to get you started is: http://www.code-sucks.com/css%20layouts/index.php Lee On 9/9/2006 07:23 PM, Patricia Tidmarsh
    Message 1 of 16 , Sep 9 5:24 PM
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      Another good site for some basic templates to get you started is:

      http://www.code-sucks.com/css%20layouts/index.php

      Lee



      On 9/9/2006 07:23 PM, Patricia Tidmarsh wrote:
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      >Could you supply a couple of URLs for up-to-date designs with CSS.
      >Thanks
      >
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    • sisterscape
      You can judge for yourself how up-to-date they are but all my sites are 99.9% tableless, with CSS separated from HTML markup. You can browse from this page
      Message 2 of 16 , Sep 9 5:56 PM
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        You can judge for yourself how "up-to-date" they are but all my sites
        are 99.9% tableless, with CSS separated from HTML markup. You can
        browse from this page - http://www.eartherdesigns.com/portfolio.html
        Take a look at the style sheets too.

        Keep in mind that I'm not designing much anymore so don't know quite
        what they're doing in current browser versions. I did see a problem
        with IE 7 on one of them that I'm hoping M$ will fix before the final
        release.

        sisterscape

        --- Patricia Tidmarsh <patricia@...> wrote:

        >
        > Could you supply a couple of URLs for up-to-date designs with CSS.
        > Thanks
        >
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        >
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        >
        > On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, sisterscape wrote:
        >
        > > First off, the code doesn't validate -
        > >
        >
        http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fgpayne2.home.mindspring.com%2Findex.html
        > >
        > > Second, it contains many deprecated elements.
        > >
        > > Third, CSS is under-utilized.
        > >
        > > You didn't ask but . . . aesthetically, the look is very retro,
        > > mid-90s. The colors are a bit too vibrant for my taste and hurt my
        > > eyes.
        > > And sorry but I can't really say there is a design there at all.
        > >
        > > Can't comments on the pages you requested because all the links are
        > > bringing up a 500 Internal Server Error. I am even unable to
        > access
        > > your style sheet.
        > >
        > > sisterscaoe
        > >
        > > --- gane423 <gane423@...> wrote:
        > >
        > >> at http://gpayne2.home.mindspring.com/index.html
        > >>
        > >> and see if anything serious is wrong with the Source coding,
        > >> Particularly for the "Family Pictures" and "Radio" pages and how
        > what
        > >>
        > >> problems are found could be fixed?
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      • sisterscape
        Yes, Zen Garden is the BEST example of all. I should have thought of it myself . . . I really am out of the designing loop these days . . . LOL!! ...
        Message 3 of 16 , Sep 9 5:59 PM
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          Yes, Zen Garden is the BEST example of all. I should have thought of it
          myself . . . I really am out of the designing loop these days . . .
          LOL!!

          --- Margaret Peloquin <peloquin@...> wrote:

          > Most commercial and university sites now use CSS so examples are all
          > over the
          > place. One of my favorite places to see the power of CSS is
          > http://www.csszengarden.com/
          > There you can see the same page information rendered to look
          > different with a
          > variety of style sheets (CSS).
          >
          > If you want to learn more about CSS, here are some places to start:
          > http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp
          >
          http://www.westciv.com/style_master/academy/hands_on_tutorial/index.html
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        • sisterscape
          OK, I started thinking about this question a little more . . . Here s one more very useful URL - http://www.pmob.co.uk/ The site itself is not the point. But
          Message 4 of 16 , Sep 9 8:58 PM
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            OK, I started thinking about this question a little more . . .

            Here's one more very useful URL - http://www.pmob.co.uk/ The site
            itself is not the point. But the list of the CSS tips and tricks
            (including layouts) is about the best available. It is pure genius!

            sisterscape

            --- Patricia Tidmarsh <patricia@...> wrote:

            >
            > Could you supply a couple of URLs for up-to-date designs with CSS.
            > Thanks
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          • Lee Underwood
            I couldn t get the URL to load ... problem on my end? Lee On 9/9/2006 11:58 PM, sisterscape wrote: ... ........................................................
            Message 5 of 16 , Sep 9 9:30 PM
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              I couldn't get the URL to load ... problem on my end?

              Lee


              On 9/9/2006 11:58 PM, sisterscape wrote:
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              >OK, I started thinking about this question a little more . . .
              >
              >Here's one more very useful URL - http://www.pmob.co.uk/ The site
              >itself is not the point. But the list of the CSS tips and tricks
              >(including layouts) is about the best available. It is pure genius!
              >
              >sisterscape
              >
              >--- Patricia Tidmarsh <patricia@...> wrote:
              >
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            • sisterscape
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                Pops right up here. :)

                --- Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:

                > I couldn't get the URL to load ... problem on my end?
                >
                > Lee
                >
                >
                > On 9/9/2006 11:58 PM, sisterscape wrote:
                > ........................................................
                >
                > >OK, I started thinking about this question a little more . . .
                > >
                > >Here's one more very useful URL - http://www.pmob.co.uk/ The site
                > >itself is not the point. But the list of the CSS tips and tricks
                > >(including layouts) is about the best available. It is pure genius!
                > >
                > >sisterscape
                > >


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              • Lee Underwood
                Ah, it s working now. Thanks! Lee On 9/10/2006 01:52 AM, sisterscape wrote: ... ........................................................
                Message 7 of 16 , Sep 10 8:10 AM
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                  Ah, it's working now. Thanks!

                  Lee


                  On 9/10/2006 01:52 AM, sisterscape wrote:
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                  >Pops right up here. :)
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                  >--- Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:
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                  > > I couldn't get the URL to load ... problem on my end?
                  > >
                  > > Lee
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > On 9/9/2006 11:58 PM, sisterscape wrote:
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                  > >
                  > > >OK, I started thinking about this question a little more . . .
                  > > >
                  > > >Here's one more very useful URL - http://www.pmob.co.uk/ The site
                  > > >itself is not the point. But the list of the CSS tips and tricks
                  > > >(including layouts) is about the best available. It is pure genius!
                  > > >
                  > > >sisterscape
                  > > >
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                • gane423
                  That is odd about not being able to access it -- don t know what to suggest. This is first time I ve tried to put up a site, so naturally I guess, has a lot of
                  Message 8 of 16 , Sep 11 1:11 PM
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                    That is odd about not being able to access it -- don't know what to
                    suggest. This is first time I've tried to put up a site, so naturally I
                    guess, has a lot of errors.

                    Finally got into the W3 validator site, and found a few pages of things
                    wrong -- including a couple where major error seemed to be I'd typed in
                      instead of   :)

                    Question: I thought I was using css on my site, what with the line in
                    the index page source code which includes

                    mindspring.com/style.css" type="text/css" rel="stylesheet"/>

                    so to convert to css I'd have to take the site down & completely redo
                    it, or what?
                  • sisterscape
                    I am now able to access the links on your site but still not the style sheet at - http://gpayne2.Home.mindspring.com/style.css . . . getting a page not found.
                    Message 9 of 16 , Sep 11 1:48 PM
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                      I am now able to access the links on your site but still not the style
                      sheet at - http://gpayne2.Home.mindspring.com/style.css . . . getting a
                      page not found. So I can't check what you have going on in your CSS.

                      You wouldn't have to take the site down to improve the code. Just
                      revise one page at a time and overwrtite what you currently have up.

                      All of these tags (and all similar ones) are deprecated. The attributes
                      should instead be set in the CSS.

                      <body bgcolor="#00aaFF" text="#ffffff" link="#000fff" vlink="#008800"
                      alink="ffcc00">
                      <div align="center">
                      <font face="Arial, Times New Roman, Helvetica, Courier New, Sans Serif"
                      color="#ffff00" size="+1">

                      Likewise huge chunks of   can be eliminated by setting margins on
                      various elements in the CSS. All these changes will make the code much
                      cleaner and up-to-date.

                      sisterscape

                      PS You can put an   into a document by clicking on the "non
                      breaking space" under "other elements" in the HTML clipbook library.
                      No need to do a lot of typing. ;)


                      --- gane423 <gane423@...> wrote:

                      > That is odd about not being able to access it -- don't know what to
                      > suggest. This is first time I've tried to put up a site, so naturally
                      > I
                      > guess, has a lot of errors.
                      >
                      > Finally got into the W3 validator site, and found a few pages of
                      > things
                      > wrong -- including a couple where major error seemed to be I'd typed
                      > in
                      >   instead of   :)
                      >
                      > Question: I thought I was using css on my site, what with the line in
                      >
                      > the index page source code which includes
                      >
                      > mindspring.com/style.css" type="text/css" rel="stylesheet"/>
                      >
                      > so to convert to css I'd have to take the site down & completely
                      > redo
                      > it, or what?
                      >


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                    • Jody
                      Hi gane423, Could you all bring this discussion over to the HTML list please? You can signup for it at the bottom on any [NTB] message. ... I ve got
                      Message 10 of 16 , Sep 11 2:30 PM
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                        Hi gane423,

                        Could you all bring this discussion over to the HTML list please? You can
                        signup for it at the bottom on any [NTB] message.

                        >at http://gpayne2.home.mindspring.com/index.html
                        >
                        >and see if anything serious is wrong with the Source coding,
                        >Particularly for the "Family Pictures" and "Radio" pages and how what
                        >problems are found could be fixed?


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