Re: [NTB] Upgrade from 4.95 to 5.1 not overwriting the old copy
- essinger2001 wrote:
> Thanks for the response, but it does not address the question. IJim,
> don't need 4.95 and 5.1 on my computer. I have backed up 4.95 to
> restore if needed, and I still have the 4.95 install backed up as
> well. I want to PRESERVE the clips and settings, and have them in
> 5.1. Even running side by side, how do I get my settings and clips
> from 4.95 to 5.1?
> The question is how can I do all of that? The online help seems to be
> not helpful in this upgrade.
> I also have replaced notepad with NoteTab in Windows XP Pro, and want
> it to use the 5.1 version when I start the editor by clicking on a
> .txt or .html file. It does not do that currently. It uses the old
> version. The upgrade should give me the option of replaceing the 4.95
> version with the new and maintaining the clips I have created, and my
You're getting decent advice if you want to retain both versions. I
installed 5.1 over the old version and recommend that process. This
will adapt all the support files for the new version without changing
paths, saves time and trouble if you already have shortcuts for
NoteTab. Installing the new version over the old is the way I've always
Later, if you plan to try using NotePro in a multi-user environment,
after closing NotePro you can temporarily move NotePro.ini out of the
NotePro main folder, restart NotePro. Without the ini file NoteTab will
act as if it's a brand new install no settings at all, other than the
default settings. The next step will return your settings.
That will create the necessary NoteTab folders under the 'applications'
folder, then simply close NoteTab again, replace the newly created
inifile with your original in the NoteTab folder and your settings will
I would, however, be sure to save the 4.95 installer package, just for
emergencies. Also, safeguard the v5.1 installer.
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hrs ø hsavage@...
- Hi All,
>The simplest solution is to instruct the Setup program to installWhat I did after that was installed to a new location after
>NoteTab 5 in the same folder as your version 4.95. In other
>words, you will be overwriting your old program file with the
>new. The only downside of this method is that you will not have
>copies of the latest Clipbook library files installed.
installing over 4.95 and then copied the Libraries folder over
the new 4.95-5.10 folder. I suggest that if you do that, that is
install to a new folder to get the new Libraries is to make a
folder and in it make a file called NotePro.ini (or NoteTab.ini
for Std) so that you don't get all the stuff under the Documents
and Settings folder for the user logged on and then under his/her
Application Data folder for NoteTab. I suppose you could delete
that just as easy thought.
(Oh, that howtoupdate.htm page is very old; I'll try to find time
to update it.)
Now, if you are really bored and want to understand it all a bit
better., read the following. It should be accurate.
Here's some tips I wrote up for people asking about how to
install v5.00, their Clips in 4.95, and where to install to, etc.
You might find some of it useful...
You can do one or more of a few things, but first, some notes...
If you install directly over v4.95 everything should be the same.
If you had Clips in a Library that NoteTab upgraded, you should
find them in a folder underneath NoteTab's Libraries folder.
There's a screen in the installation process that gives you some
more information about where NoteTab will be installed to. I also
put it in this message towards the bottom right above the
discussion mailing list information. I preceded it with: A NOTE
FROM INSTALLATION SCREEN.
If you install NoteTab v5.xx to a new location you find the data
files, settings, etc. such a NotePro.ini under Documents and
Settings | Application Data | User it was installed under | and
in the NoteTab Pro folder. That folder will contain the
following, but instead of Jody, it will be the user you are
logged in as:
C:\Documents and Settings\Jody\Application Data\NoteTab Pro\NotePro.fpr
C:\Documents and Settings\Jody\Application Data\NoteTab Pro\NotePro.ini
C:\Documents and Settings\Jody\Application Data\NoteTab Pro\Tips.ndx
C:\Documents and Settings\Jody\Application Data\NoteTab Pro\Favorites
C:\Documents and Settings\Jody\Application Data\NoteTab Pro\Libraries
C:\Documents and Settings\Jody\Application Data\NoteTab Pro\Spelling
C:\Documents and Settings\Jody\Application Data\NoteTab Pro\Templates
(Note: Some things like your Favorites will have to be copied from
your old v4.95 Favorites folder to the new one in the Application
Data folder under NoteTab Pro; see above. You can Copy the folder
itself such as Favorites under NoteTab Pro 4.95 and then Paste it
into the NoteTab Pro Application Data folder.)
Clipbooks, Clipbars, etc. will still be in NoteTab's program
folder structure, but when edited, a copy is placed in the
associated Application Data folder for NoteTab Pro. (FYI, if
NoteTab sees NotePro.ini in the folder you install to, no
appearance will be in your Application Data folder as mentioned
This is an example of the installation folders of NoteTab Pro to a
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\Sounds
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\Templates
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\Dictionaries
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\Libraries
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\Samples
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\Scripts
...and *some* of the files for an example only:
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\WhatsNew.txt
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\Browsers.dat
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\ClipCode.chm
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\ClipCode.hlp
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\ClipHelp.clh
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\Glossary.otl
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\NotePro.exe
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\NoteTab.chm
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\NoteTab.hlp
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\ReadMe.otl
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\ReadMe.txt
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\Shortcuts.dat
You can copy v4.95 Libraries over to the v5.0 location:
1. Copy your old Clipbooks that you changed to the Clipboard from
the Libraries folder in v4.95 and then paste them into the v5
Libraries folder. You should do that with NoteTab closed. Note:
if any of the Libraries were NoteTab's and they were updated in
the upgrade, you will loose those new changes. I do not know
exactly what was changed.
You can move a Clip at a time:
2. The best way would be to open v4.95 and right click over the
Clip and choose Copy to Clipboard. Switch to v5, right click over
the Library where you want to add the Clip and choose Add from
You can do multiple Clips using the PasteBoard:
3. Setup v5 with a PasteBoard open if you have a lot to change.
Right click over v4.95's Clipbook and choose "Show Headers," 3 up
from the bottom if not checked. Right click over Edit Clip... for
a Clip you want to migrate to v5. Press Ctrl+A to Select All (or
use a Select All tool from wherever you have it setup). It's also
under the Edit menu. Press your Copy icon or Ctrl+C. Continue
doing that for every Clip you want to migrate. When you are done
switch to v5 and in front of every Clip name add "H=" without the
quotes. For instance if you have something like:
A note and some review/reminders...
This assumes that when you installed, you did not have a copy of
NotePro.ini (for NoteTab Pro and NoteTab.ini for NoteTab
Standard/Light). In v5 changes made to Libraries are kept in the
Application Data folder for NoteTab even though the Libraries are
kept in the Libraries folder in the NoteTab installation folder.
NotePro.ini or NoteTab.ini is also kept in NoteTab's Application
Data folder under Documents and Settings for the logged on user
of Windows. If you had a copy of the INI file in the folder you
installed to, then all changes are kept under NoteTab's
installation folder. In other words, it acts just like v4.95 did.
A NOTE FROM INSTALLATION SCREEN:
You can install this release over a previous copy of NoteTab Pro.
We recommend that you choose a different folder if you are
upgrading from version 4.x so that you can benefit from all new
features. See below for an explanation on where NoteTab Pro saves
If you have a trial version of NoteTab Pro on your computer, it
is preferable that you uninstall it before installing this copy.
Storage Location for User Data
NoteTab 5 is designed to work under multi-user environments and
stores user settings and data under the Application Data folder.
Previous versions of NoteTab stored such files by default under
the NoteTab program folder. If you are not working in a multi-
user environment and have an account with administrator
privileges (as opposed to a Windows limited account), you can
instruct NoteTab to use the program folder as the main storage
location instead of the Application Data folder. To do so, simply
place the program NotePro.ini file in the same folder as the
NoteTab program file. An empty INI file will do the trick.
If you install NoteTab 5.0 over an earlier version of NoteTab,
then user data will be stored in the same folders as before; if
you want to have user data stored under the Application Data
folder, then simply move the INI file to the "Application
Data\NoteTab Pro" folder.
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- No downaide here.. Thanks Eric for the tip....
As luck would have it, I installed 5.1 in a new directory so I can reinstall it into the 4.9x directlry and THEN copy the clipbooks over and I'll have the new ones!!!
WOO HOO, this rules!
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Fookes
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [NTB] Upgrade from 4.95 to 5.1 not overwriting the old copy
The simplest solution is to instruct the Setup program to install
NoteTab 5 in the same folder as your version 4.95. In other words, you
will be overwriting your old program file with the new. The only
downside of this method is that you will not have copies of the latest
Clipbook library files installed.
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