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Some word order questions

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  • Deep Stream
    Thanks for your response, Haukur! *A FEW LESSON THREE SOLUTIONS FOLLOW - YOU MAY WANT TO SAVE READING THIS FOR LATER* ... No matter how long I proofread, I
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      Thanks for your response, Haukur!

      *A FEW LESSON THREE SOLUTIONS FOLLOW - YOU MAY
      WANT TO SAVE READING THIS FOR LATER*

      --- haukurth@... wrote:
      > Quite alright; probably needed
      > more proofreading though:)

      No matter how long I proofread, I never get it
      *all* right (not even in English <s>).

      I see most of my mistakes, but have some
      questions about a few corrections which I'd like
      to share with the list:

      (note I say "idiomatic" to mean a word order that
      is not strictly compulsory, but nevertheless more
      common, while "arbitrary" indicates an
      arbitrarily chosen word order that is in no way
      more "common" than any other grammatically
      allowable word order)

      > > e) �Ek s� marga �j�fa! Ek vil �eir vega
      > alla!�
      >
      > Ek vil �� alla vega.

      Yes, I see that I should have used �� instead of
      �eir, and that "alla" must *immediately* follow
      it (I thought it could follow it at *any point*).
      But you put "vega" at the end (rather than after
      "vil")arbitrarily, right? This seems very
      arbitrary to me... Are

      "Ek vil �� alla vega"
      and
      "Ek vil vega �� alla"

      both correct (or is one more idiomatic?)?

      From you corrections, it looks like you can put
      the infinitive at any point after the modal (but
      never between a personal pronoun and "all" or
      "marg"). Is this correct?

      > > illr! �� vei�ir marga fiska en etr �eir alla
      > > eigi.
      >
      > etr �� eigi alla

      Hmmm... now you *do* have a word (eigi) between
      the personal pronoun and "all"... The first
      correction above indicates an infinitive can
      *not* go in-between - but what else can go
      in-between?

      a. Just the word "eigi" (see correction)
      b. any adverbs which refer to "alla":
      "�� etr �� (hardly) alla"
      (don't know the word for "hardly" yet)
      c. any adverbs at all:
      "�� etr �� n� alla"

      Further, is it *necessary* to place eigi between
      the pronoun and "alla"? Is it just idiomatic, or
      completely arbitrary?

      a. "�� etr �� eigi alla" ok.
      b. "�� etr �� alla eigi" ok?
      c. "�� etr eigi �� alla" ok?



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