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Trucks in NorCal vs Bay Area

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  • Jake Hickok
    Yup - rural here. 1 truck in 40mile radius, for a grand total of 3 trucks in 3 counties. And I think Redding is the northern most aerial. We don t deal with
    Message 1 of 20 , Apr 7, 2002
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      Yup - rural here. 1 truck in 40mile radius, for a grand total of 3
      trucks in 3 counties. And I think Redding is the northern most
      aerial. We don't deal with rescuing people up here from roofs or
      second stories. There isn't a building tall enough for that ;) We use
      our truck for aerial fire attack/defense, moving firefighters to the
      roof and back (if ground ladders are not feasible) and for making a
      crane out of it so we can do hoisting and rescuing with rope/pulley
      systems.

      Two different worlds. ;)

      Jake
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    • Harry Marnell
      Say what? ... From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 16:10 Subject: Re: [NorCalFire] Redding Truck out of
      Message 2 of 20 , Apr 7, 2002
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        Say what?

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: <caladded@...>
        To: <norcalfire@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 16:10
        Subject: Re: [NorCalFire] Redding Truck out of service


        > Sorry, but as I just pointed out, Jake does NOT make a good point. ...
        < sniped> ..

        ..Unless you have time in a fire service, you
        > shouldn't be "guessing" at things you obviously don't know too enough
        about.
        > Listen to those on this list who have experience thanks

        I alway remember that principle when doing research on dinosaurs or the
        outer planets. I don't trust ANY information except that which I get
        from people who lived with the dinosaurs or who have spent time on Pluto
        or Uranus.

        harry
      • Tim Tribble
        Well, when the City Council does not support Emergency Services.......guess they have to look in the mirror. Tim ... ===== Donald Tim Tribble KD6MDV
        Message 3 of 20 , Apr 8, 2002
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          Well, when the City Council does not support Emergency
          Services.......guess they have to look in the mirror.

          Tim
          --- Jake Hickok <jake@...> wrote:
          > Redding's Truck 1 is out of service indefinitely due
          > to the damages
          > inflicted upon it (see previous e-mails sent to this
          > list a while
          > ago). This leaves Redding without a ladder truck at
          > all.
          >
          > Red Bluff and Tehama County Fire (co-owners of Red
          > Bluff Truck 4)
          > have graciously offered Truck 4 to Redding if they
          > need it for an
          > incident. The incident will have to be a prolonged
          > incident where the
          > truck is highly needed due to the 45 minute ETA from
          > the station to
          > the middle of Redding. All radios on Truck 4 have
          > been programmed
          > with Redding frequencies also.
          >
          > Hmm, I wonder who's head is on a platter in
          > Redding...
          >
          > Jake


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          Sacramento, CA
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        • Tim Tribble
          Technically one would call this a Service Truck. Tim ... ===== Donald Tim Tribble KD6MDV Sacramento, CA Our Blessed Lady of Acceleration, don t fail me
          Message 4 of 20 , Apr 8, 2002
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            Technically one would call this a Service Truck.

            Tim
            --- Jake Hickok <jake@...> wrote:
            > I think I worded it wrong. Sorry and thanks for the
            > note there. The
            > Ladder portion of Truck 1 is inoperable. I think
            > Truck 1 is still
            > operable as a pump, and portable ladder storage and
            > as a regular fire
            > truck, but you might as well call it an Engine and
            > not a Truck since
            > the Ladder on top is inoperable.
            >
            > This info from Red Bluff City since our Truck is now
            > responding on
            > their calls that need aerial action. The word was
            > indefinite until a
            > new truck is purchased or they come across funds to
            > fix the 20-25 yr
            > old truck once again.
            >
            > Jake


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            KD6MDV
            Sacramento, CA
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          • Harry Marnell
            I haven t lived in Redding since 1991, but back then it sure seemed they were awfully cheap with the FD s budget. Whenever they had an actual fire, they had
            Message 5 of 20 , Apr 8, 2002
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              I haven't lived in Redding since 1991, but back then it sure seemed they
              were awfully cheap with the FD's budget. Whenever they had an actual
              fire, they had to call about 5 engines to get 6 or 7 firefighters.
              Seemed everything was a one- or two- person rig.

              And Station 5 at "4 corners" covered the entire eastern half of the city
              all by itself (except for the airport station, if HE was on duty).

              That was the impression I got, anyway. Am I off base on this?

              Harry



              ----- Original Message -----
              From: "Tim Tribble" <tcomm_specialist@...>
              To: <norcalfire@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 00:09
              Subject: Re: [NorCalFire] Redding Truck out of service


              > Well, when the City Council does not support Emergency
              > Services.......guess they have to look in the mirror.
              >
              > Tim
              > --- Jake Hickok <jake@...> wrote:
              > > Redding's Truck 1 is out of service indefinitely due
              > > to the damages
              > > inflicted upon it (see previous e-mails sent to this
              > > list a while
              > > ago). This leaves Redding without a ladder truck at
              > > all.
              > >
              > > Red Bluff and Tehama County Fire (co-owners of Red
              > > Bluff Truck 4)
              > > have graciously offered Truck 4 to Redding if they
              > > need it for an
              > > incident. The incident will have to be a prolonged
              > > incident where the
              > > truck is highly needed due to the 45 minute ETA from
              > > the station to
              > > the middle of Redding. All radios on Truck 4 have
              > > been programmed
              > > with Redding frequencies also.
              > >
              > > Hmm, I wonder who's head is on a platter in
              > > Redding...
              > >
              > > Jake
              >
              >
              > =====
              > Donald "Tim" Tribble
            • Ed Nowlin
              Nope Harry...I was in the ROP Program at #5 in 1990-1991, and I can tell you from that, plus living a block away from 5 that the city (Save Station 1 and
              Message 6 of 20 , Apr 8, 2002
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                Nope Harry...I was in the ROP Program at #5 in 1990-1991, and I can tell you
                from that, plus living a block away from 5 that the city (Save Station 1 and
                possibly 7, tho 1 is the only one I am sure about) were running 2 man crews.

                Ed

                > I haven't lived in Redding since 1991, but back then it sure seemed they
                > were awfully cheap with the FD's budget. Whenever they had an actual
                > fire, they had to call about 5 engines to get 6 or 7 firefighters.
                > Seemed everything was a one- or two- person rig.
                >
                > And Station 5 at "4 corners" covered the entire eastern half of the city
                > all by itself (except for the airport station, if HE was on duty).
                >
                > That was the impression I got, anyway. Am I off base on this?
              • Jake Hickok
                Well, speaking from knowledge, acquired in a 2000 dept annual report (current one online maybe?) http://www.norcalscan.org/shasta/rfdstations.html has the
                Message 7 of 20 , Apr 8, 2002
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                  Well, speaking from knowledge, acquired in a 2000 dept annual report
                  (current one online maybe?)

                  http://www.norcalscan.org/shasta/rfdstations.html has the latest
                  staffing levels for all units in the department.

                  Also looking at the response times shows an average of 6.28 minutes.
                  Station 1 and 3 are at 5.5 minutes, Station 2 just under 6, Station 4
                  is 6.5, Station 5 (busiest along with Station1) is 6 minutes, Station
                  7 up there with 7.5 minute response (they're the airport station,
                  give them a minute to exit the airport)

                  Response times have risen by a minute since 1997/98 it looks like.

                  Also search archives at http://www.redding.com/news/ for the latest
                  bonehead decisions made on funding for the next 10 years or so.
                  Articles have been coming through in March and April.

                  Jake
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                  KF6KDD Tehama County EC - ARES
                  Red Bluff City Fire Dept - Photo/Videographer

                  jake@...
                  http://www.norcalscan.org
                  Northern California Scanning and Ham Radio

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                • caladded@aol.com
                  Message 8 of 20 , Apr 8, 2002
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                  • caladded@aol.com
                    Thats an OLD term Tim, but close. They used to call them City Service Trucks prior to Aerials. Ed [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    Message 9 of 20 , Apr 8, 2002
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                      Thats an OLD term Tim, but close. They used to call them City Service Trucks
                      prior to Aerials.
                      Ed


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