to clarify a few issues from your email:
- The NewsML 2 Architecture breaks out functions from the "NewsML 1
conglomerate" into clearly defined chunks. E.g. a NewsItem is for conveying
news content, a PackageItem is for conveying how NewsItems relate to each other
to make a package, a Topic Item is for conveying knowledge about a concept ...
This is intended to tackle - and tame - the complexity issue with NewsML 1.
- The NewsItem of NewsML 2 is still a wrapper for different kinds of content -
one may be "tagged text". But NewsML 2 does not require a specific tagging = a
specific XML language for text markup. You have to use the "type" attribute of
the <directContent>, <encodedContent> or <remoteContent> elements to specify
with tagging format is used for thist text.
- NITF was developed about 10 years ago, about five years prior to NewsML 1.
Hence it had like all IPTC news exchange formats two use cases in mind: a/ to
format text and b/ to provide means for metadata about this text. (Later NewsML
1 had a focus on the metadata and left open the tagging of text.)
- Hence think about this, even when the final version of NewsML 2 standards are
out: Use the NewsML 2 standard for "general news markup" (the name for this is
still discussed inside the IPTC) which will not *require* a specific markup
(possibly it will recommend one) as a wrapper for your text and use the text
markup portions of NITF for the tagging of text. This will perfectly fit into
the NewsML 2 environment.
See examples for this in the Files section of this Yahoo group,
eg the "SmallArticle" ones.
On 17 Jan 2006 at 21:55 esafran01 wrote:
I am involved in selecting an xml standard to represent text news for
internal use in my company, and I faced the problem of NITF vs NewsML
1. Until now, we use propietary formats with some problems, so we
decided to move to a standar. When I look at NITF and NewsML specs, I
see NITF fits very well for press news but, in the long term I want to
represent multimedia news, so I understand NewsML (with NITF inside
it) is the solution.
The drawback in the short term is the complexity I see in NewsML 1,
when we don´t have experience with this kind of standard and, by now,
we don´t need it.
Then, I see this discussion. (Remember the main problem I see with
NewsML 1 is its complexity).
So, I begin to think a good approach may be to use NITF in the short
term, and wait for NewsML 2.
Comments are welcome!
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Michael Steidl/MDir IPTC"
> Some IPTC members discussed the "pros" of NewsML 2, what this new
> gives an edge over older ones like NewsML 1, in an internal email
> Read a summary of this discussion below and come up with your own
> to this NewsML-2 group - any comment is welcome.
> **************** Summary of the email discussion:
> *** Johan Lindgren, kicked off the discussion by saying:
> Maybe this is like cursing in church - but what is really better with
> NewsML2 compared to NewsML (1).
> And then I don't mean a lot of technical details. More of
> tangible arguments why anyone presently using NewsML would look into
> NewsML2 instead.
> I mean we are using NewsML for some stuff. But even beeing somewhat
> involved in the process you still have to spend some time finding
> to move that stuff to NewsML2. And that is because I want to. What
> real benefit of actually doing it.
> *** Michael Steidl, IPTC's Managing Director, replied:
> First to clarify: There is no "NewsML 2" - there is only a family of
> standards which form "NewsML 2" and these standards are built on the
> "NewsML 2 Architecture". (I have to add: currently we have no standard
> built on the NAR, hope a successor to NewsML 1 in terms of news
> EventsML will be the first ones, followed by a "synchronised" version of
> Hence my first "pro" is having a clear modular design. That means:
> a module for conveying news or knowledge (the NewsItem and the
> another one for packaging other items (PackageItem) and finally an
> optional envelope for the transmission (NewsMessage). NewsML 1 was
> one", e.g. I remember having troubles explaining a person why to
> a mandatory envelope in NewsML 1 if the item has not been transmitted at
> all, or was not even intended for transmission (e.g. for internal use
> 2nd pro: the improved packaging design alone is a good reason to
> NewsML 2 standards.
> 3rd pro: a completely new model for metadata expression. It is still
> complex as I consider the metadata business as complex - but it is
> flexible and it does not continue this unmanagable controlled vocabulary
> mechanism from NewsML1.
> 4th pro: even the core specifications and documentation available
> much better than the ones of NewsML 1.
> Finally I invite you to look into Part 1 of the "About NAR EP1" document
> provided with the Experimental Phase 1 package.
> *** Jayson Lorenzen of BusinessWire added some practical views:
> I did a test a while back taking a real BW press release in NewsML1.x
> format and converting it to the most recent NAR schema format at the
> (NAR schema v0.3) and found the 1.x releae to be 211 lines and the NAR
> v.03 schema compliant version was only 125 lines for the same story. So
> compact is a Pro, no? Also my coworkers seemed pretty impressed to see
> everything packed up againsts the left side of the document (the nested
> Components were not a big hit around here). People who do not really
> understand NewsML at all were able to find the data they understood
> quickly in the new format. So I would say Simple is a Pro. I think
> had this in there someplace too.
> Michael replied to Jayson's statement about "simplicity":
> Jayson: I had "simplicity" in mind - but it is hard to assert it:
> 2 is 50 per cent more simple than NewsML 1" - how to meter this?!?!?
> *** Misha Wolf of Reuters added on "how to meter this":
> Put 20 programmers in a room and give them five NewsML 1.x
> tasks to code.
> Then give them five NewsML 2 tasks to code.
> Then compare the timings.
> ========= THE END for now ========== to be continued
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