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  • wzuccarello@yahoo.com
    Distilled water. Sent from my HTC ... From: Jim Graves jimbull34@yahoo.com [new_distillers] To:
    Message 1 of 7 , May 9 6:28 AM
      Distilled water.

      Sent from my HTC

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      From: "Jim Graves jimbull34@... [new_distillers]" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
      To: <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment
      Date: Fri, May 9, 2014 7:35 AM

      If nothing illegal happens on Moonshiners, then what are they making?
      
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      On Thu, 5/8/14, RLB <last2blast@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment To: "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, May 8, 2014, 3:54 PM   National Geographic has clearly stated that nothing illegal happens on the "Moonshiner", so that should tell ever one a great deal about them.  What about the legality of producing hobby distilling in front of a camera?  Everyone involved could potentially be arrested and face prison. Robert ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From: Alli Bugger <allibugger@...> To: "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>; "Distillers@yahoogroups.com" <Distillers@yahoogroups.com>; "tomcowdrey@..." <tomcowdrey@...> Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 3:28 PM Subject: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment [1 Attachment]   Hello,As an active member of the Hobby Distiller's Association, I was contacted recently by Jesse Aitchison with Paperny Entertainment - they have offices in  Vancouver and New York and produce non-fiction TV shows. When I first spoke with Jesse he said they were interested in producing a show that told the real story behind small batch distilling.  They recognize the current show "The Moonshiners" is lies and misinformation about lowlife hillbillies selling low quality spirits while running from the law.  Jesse understands that legalization is a huge piece of the puzzle in easing up the process of transitioning from hobby distilling to craft distilling and that is the story he wants to tell.  I encourage you to click http://www.papernyentertainment.com/ and check them out.  Woodshed on the HomeDistiller forum is working closely with Jesse to get this story out. I have attached Jesse's request for personal stories to use on his show.  He promises confidentiality. I hope many will take this opportunity to tell your story and encourage everyone to get behind our efforts to legalize our hobby.  Questions or comments are welcome as always.  Tom Tom CowdreyHobby Distiller's Associationtomcowdrey@...@... #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493 -- #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp #yiv9942663493hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp #yiv9942663493ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp .yiv9942663493ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp .yiv9942663493ad p { margin:0;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp .yiv9942663493ad a { color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-sponsor #yiv9942663493ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv9942663493 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    • Alli Bugger
      I was told it was acceptable. On Friday, May 9, 2014 9:28 AM, wzuccarello@yahoo.com wzuccarello@yahoo.com [new_distillers]
      Message 2 of 7 , May 9 6:37 AM
        I was told it was acceptable.
        On Friday, May 9, 2014 9:28 AM, "'wzuccarello@...' wzuccarello@... [new_distillers]" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


        Distilled water.

        Sent from my HTC

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        From: "Jim Graves jimbull34@... [new_distillers]" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
        To: <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment
        Date: Fri, May 9, 2014 7:35 AM

        If nothing illegal happens on Moonshiners, then what are they making?
        
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        On Thu, 5/8/14, RLB <last2blast@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment To: "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, May 8, 2014, 3:54 PM   National Geographic has clearly stated that nothing illegal happens on the "Moonshiner", so that should tell ever one a great deal about them.  What about the legality of producing hobby distilling in front of a camera?  Everyone involved could potentially be arrested and face prison. Robert ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From: Alli Bugger <allibugger@...> To: "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>; "Distillers@yahoogroups.com" <Distillers@yahoogroups.com>; "tomcowdrey@..." <tomcowdrey@...> Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 3:28 PM Subject: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment [1 Attachment]   Hello,As an active member of the Hobby Distiller's Association, I was contacted recently by Jesse Aitchison with Paperny Entertainment - they have offices in  Vancouver and New York and produce non-fiction TV shows. When I first spoke with Jesse he said they were interested in producing a show that told the real story behind small batch distilling.  They recognize the current show "The Moonshiners" is lies and misinformation about lowlife hillbillies selling low quality spirits while running from the law.  Jesse understands that legalization is a huge piece of the puzzle in easing up the process of transitioning from hobby distilling to craft distilling and that is the story he wants to tell.  I encourage you to click http://www.papernyentertainment.com/ and check them out.  Woodshed on the HomeDistiller forum is working closely with Jesse to get this story out. I have attached Jesse's request for personal stories to use on his show.  He promises confidentiality. I hope many will take this opportunity to tell your story and encourage everyone to get behind our efforts to legalize our hobby.  Questions or comments are welcome as always.  Tom Tom CowdreyHobby Distiller's Associationtomcowdrey@...@... #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493 -- #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp #yiv9942663493hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp #yiv9942663493ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp .yiv9942663493ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp .yiv9942663493ad p { margin:0;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-mkp .yiv9942663493ad a { color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} #yiv9942663493 #yiv9942663493ygrp-sponsor #yiv9942663493ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv9942663493 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      • Jim Graves
        That does sound about right!!!!! Still my favorite program. ... On Fri, 5/9/14, wzuccarello@yahoo.com wzuccarello@yahoo.com [new_distillers]
        Message 3 of 7 , May 9 9:22 AM
          That does sound about right!!!!! Still my favorite program.


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          On Fri, 5/9/14, 'wzuccarello@...' wzuccarello@... [new_distillers] <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

          Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment
          To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Friday, May 9, 2014, 8:28 AM


           










          Distilled water.
          Sent from my HTC
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          From: "Jim Graves
          jimbull34@... [new_distillers]"
          <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
          To:
          <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
          Subject: [new_distillers] Paperny
          Entertainment
          Date: Fri, May 9, 2014 7:35
          AM

          If nothing illegal happens on Moonshiners, then what are
          they making?

          --------------------------------------------
          On Thu, 5/8/14, RLB <last2blast@...> wrote:

          Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment
          To: "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com"
          <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
          Date: Thursday, May 8, 2014, 3:54 PM


           









          National Geographic has
          clearly stated that nothing illegal happens on the
          "Moonshiner", so that should tell ever one a
          great
          deal about them.  What about the legality of producing
          hobby distilling in front of a camera?  Everyone involved
          could potentially be arrested and face
          prison.
          Robert


          ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
          From:
          Alli Bugger <allibugger@...>

          To:
          "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com"
          <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>;
          "Distillers@yahoogroups.com"
          <Distillers@yahoogroups.com>;
          "tomcowdrey@..."
          <tomcowdrey@...>
          Sent: Thursday, May 8,
          2014 3:28 PM
          Subject:
          [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment [1 Attachment]

















           







          Hello,As an
          active member of the Hobby Distiller's Association, I
          was contacted recently by Jesse Aitchison with Paperny
          Entertainment - they have offices in  Vancouver and New
          York and produce non-fiction TV shows. When I first spoke
          with Jesse he said they were interested in producing a show
          that told the real story behind small batch distilling. 
          They recognize the current show "The Moonshiners"
          is lies and misinformation about lowlife hillbillies
          selling
          low quality spirits while running from the law.  Jesse
          understands that legalization is a huge piece of the puzzle
          in easing up the process of transitioning from hobby
          distilling to craft distilling and that is the story he
          wants to tell.  I encourage you to click
          http://www.papernyentertainment.com/
          and check
          them out.  Woodshed on the HomeDistiller forum is working
          closely with Jesse to get this story out.
          I
          have attached Jesse's request for personal stories to
          use on his show.  He promises confidentiality. I hope many
          will take this opportunity to tell your story and encourage
          everyone to get behind our efforts to legalize our hobby. 
          Questions or comments are welcome as always.  Tom

          Tom
          CowdreyHobby
          Distiller's
          Associationtomcowdrey@...@...











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        • Jerry McCullough
          FYI: In some states, Alabama for example, it is illegal to own a still or the components when assembled make a still.. Silly I know. On Friday, May 9, 2014
          Message 4 of 7 , May 10 6:01 AM
            FYI:

            In some states, Alabama for example, it is illegal to own a still or the components when assembled make a still..
            Silly I know.


             

            On Friday, May 9, 2014 11:23 AM, "Jim Graves jimbull34@... [new_distillers]" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
             
            That does sound about right!!!!! Still my favorite program.

            --------------------------------------------
            On Fri, 5/9/14, 'wzuccarello@...' wzuccarello@... [new_distillers] <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

            Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment
            To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Friday, May 9, 2014, 8:28 AM


             










            Distilled water.
            Sent from my HTC
            ----- Reply
            message -----
            From: "Jim Graves
            jimbull34@... [new_distillers]"
            <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
            To:
            <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
            Subject: [new_distillers] Paperny
            Entertainment
            Date: Fri, May 9, 2014 7:35
            AM

            If nothing illegal happens on Moonshiners, then what are
            they making?

            --------------------------------------------
            On Thu, 5/8/14, RLB <last2blast@...> wrote:

            Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment
            To: "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com"
            <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
            Date: Thursday, May 8, 2014, 3:54 PM


             









            National Geographic has
            clearly stated that nothing illegal happens on the
            "Moonshiner", so that should tell ever one a
            great
            deal about them.  What about the legality of producing
            hobby distilling in front of a camera?  Everyone involved
            could potentially be arrested and face
            prison.
            Robert


            __________________________________________________________
            From:
            Alli Bugger <allibugger@...>

            To:
            "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com"
            <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>;
            "Distillers@yahoogroups.com"
            <Distillers@yahoogroups.com>;
            "tomcowdrey@..."
            <tomcowdrey@...>
            Sent: Thursday, May 8,
            2014 3:28 PM
            Subject:
            [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment [1 Attachment]

















             







            Hello,As an
            active member of the Hobby Distiller's Association, I
            was contacted recently by Jesse Aitchison with Paperny
            Entertainment - they have offices in  Vancouver and New
            York and produce non-fiction TV shows. When I first spoke
            with Jesse he said they were interested in producing a show
            that told the real story behind small batch distilling. 
            They recognize the current show "The Moonshiners"
            is lies and misinformation about lowlife hillbillies
            selling
            low quality spirits while running from the law.  Jesse
            understands that legalization is a huge piece of the puzzle
            in easing up the process of transitioning from hobby
            distilling to craft distilling and that is the story he
            wants to tell.  I encourage you to click
            http://www.papernyentertainment.com/
            and check
            them out.  Woodshed on the HomeDistiller forum is working
            closely with Jesse to get this story out.
            I
            have attached Jesse's request for personal stories to
            use on his show.  He promises confidentiality. I hope many
            will take this opportunity to tell your story and encourage
            everyone to get behind our efforts to legalize our hobby. 
            Questions or comments are welcome as always.  Tom

            Tom
            CowdreyHobby
            Distiller's
            Associationtomcowdrey@...@...











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          • Alli Bugger
            Sorry guys but it is indeed a federal offense to own a still if you have not registered it with the TTB.  The simple act of still possession does not carry
            Message 5 of 7 , May 10 7:35 AM
              Sorry guys but it is indeed a federal offense to own a still if you have not registered it with the TTB.  The simple act of still possession does not carry fines or arrests but they (the TTB) will confiscate you equipment as demonstrated in Florida in March. 

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              TTB | Distilled Spirits | Penalties for Illegal Distilli...
              There is no personal use or home distilling exemption for Distilled Spirits. This page describes the penalties for making distilled spirits without a permit.
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              On Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:01 AM, "Jerry McCullough jkmccull@... [new_distillers]" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


              FYI:

              In some states, Alabama for example, it is illegal to own a still or the components when assembled make a still..
              Silly I know.


               

              On Friday, May 9, 2014 11:23 AM, "Jim Graves jimbull34@... [new_distillers]" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
               
              That does sound about right!!!!! Still my favorite program.

              --------------------------------------------
              On Fri, 5/9/14, 'wzuccarello@...' wzuccarello@... [new_distillers] <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

              Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment
              To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Friday, May 9, 2014, 8:28 AM


               










              Distilled water.
              Sent from my HTC
              ----- Reply
              message -----
              From: "Jim Graves
              jimbull34@... [new_distillers]"
              <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
              To:
              <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
              Subject: [new_distillers] Paperny
              Entertainment
              Date: Fri, May 9, 2014 7:35
              AM

              If nothing illegal happens on Moonshiners, then what are
              they making?

              --------------------------------------------
              On Thu, 5/8/14, RLB <last2blast@...> wrote:

              Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment
              To: "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com"
              <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
              Date: Thursday, May 8, 2014, 3:54 PM


               









              National Geographic has
              clearly stated that nothing illegal happens on the
              "Moonshiner", so that should tell ever one a
              great
              deal about them.  What about the legality of producing
              hobby distilling in front of a camera?  Everyone involved
              could potentially be arrested and face
              prison.
              Robert


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              From:
              Alli Bugger <allibugger@...>

              To:
              "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com"
              <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>;
              "Distillers@yahoogroups.com"
              <Distillers@yahoogroups.com>;
              "tomcowdrey@..."
              <tomcowdrey@...>
              Sent: Thursday, May 8,
              2014 3:28 PM
              Subject:
              [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment [1 Attachment]

















               







              Hello,As an
              active member of the Hobby Distiller's Association, I
              was contacted recently by Jesse Aitchison with Paperny
              Entertainment - they have offices in  Vancouver and New
              York and produce non-fiction TV shows. When I first spoke
              with Jesse he said they were interested in producing a show
              that told the real story behind small batch distilling. 
              They recognize the current show "The Moonshiners"
              is lies and misinformation about lowlife hillbillies
              selling
              low quality spirits while running from the law.  Jesse
              understands that legalization is a huge piece of the puzzle
              in easing up the process of transitioning from hobby
              distilling to craft distilling and that is the story he
              wants to tell.  I encourage you to click
              http://www.papernyentertainment.com/
              and check
              them out.  Woodshed on the HomeDistiller forum is working
              closely with Jesse to get this story out.
              I
              have attached Jesse's request for personal stories to
              use on his show.  He promises confidentiality. I hope many
              will take this opportunity to tell your story and encourage
              everyone to get behind our efforts to legalize our hobby. 
              Questions or comments are welcome as always.  Tom

              Tom
              CowdreyHobby
              Distiller's
              Associationtomcowdrey@...@...











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            • RLB
              Bummer!  What the TTB doesn t know.  :-) Robert ________________________________ From: Alli Bugger allibugger@yahoo.com [new_distillers]
              Message 6 of 7 , May 10 9:08 AM
                Bummer!  What the TTB doesn't know.  :-)

                Robert



                From: "Alli Bugger allibugger@... [new_distillers]" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
                To: "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:35 AM
                Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment

                 
                Sorry guys but it is indeed a federal offense to own a still if you have not registered it with the TTB.  The simple act of still possession does not carry fines or arrests but they (the TTB) will confiscate you equipment as demonstrated in Florida in March. 

                image
                TTB | Distilled Spirits | Penalties for Illegal Distilli...
                There is no personal use or home distilling exemption for Distilled Spirits. This page describes the penalties for making distilled spirits without a permit.
                Preview by Yahoo
                 
                On Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:01 AM, "Jerry McCullough jkmccull@... [new_distillers]" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


                FYI:

                In some states, Alabama for example, it is illegal to own a still or the components when assembled make a still..
                Silly I know.


                 

                On Friday, May 9, 2014 11:23 AM, "Jim Graves jimbull34@... [new_distillers]" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                 
                That does sound about right!!!!! Still my favorite program.

                --------------------------------------------
                On Fri, 5/9/14, 'wzuccarello@...' wzuccarello@... [new_distillers] <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment
                To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Friday, May 9, 2014, 8:28 AM


                 










                Distilled water.
                Sent from my HTC
                ----- Reply
                message -----
                From: "Jim Graves
                jimbull34@... [new_distillers]"
                <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
                To:
                <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
                Subject: [new_distillers] Paperny
                Entertainment
                Date: Fri, May 9, 2014 7:35
                AM

                If nothing illegal happens on Moonshiners, then what are
                they making?

                --------------------------------------------
                On Thu, 5/8/14, RLB <last2blast@...> wrote:

                Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment
                To: "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com"
                <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
                Date: Thursday, May 8, 2014, 3:54 PM


                 









                National Geographic has
                clearly stated that nothing illegal happens on the
                "Moonshiner", so that should tell ever one a
                great
                deal about them.  What about the legality of producing
                hobby distilling in front of a camera?  Everyone involved
                could potentially be arrested and face
                prison.
                Robert


                __________________________________________________________
                From:
                Alli Bugger <allibugger@...>

                To:
                "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com"
                <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>;
                "Distillers@yahoogroups.com"
                <Distillers@yahoogroups.com>;
                "tomcowdrey@..."
                <tomcowdrey@...>
                Sent: Thursday, May 8,
                2014 3:28 PM
                Subject:
                [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment [1 Attachment]

















                 







                Hello,As an
                active member of the Hobby Distiller's Association, I
                was contacted recently by Jesse Aitchison with Paperny
                Entertainment - they have offices in  Vancouver and New
                York and produce non-fiction TV shows. When I first spoke
                with Jesse he said they were interested in producing a show
                that told the real story behind small batch distilling. 
                They recognize the current show "The Moonshiners"
                is lies and misinformation about lowlife hillbillies
                selling
                low quality spirits while running from the law.  Jesse
                understands that legalization is a huge piece of the puzzle
                in easing up the process of transitioning from hobby
                distilling to craft distilling and that is the story he
                wants to tell.  I encourage you to click
                http://www.papernyentertainment.com/
                and check
                them out.  Woodshed on the HomeDistiller forum is working
                closely with Jesse to get this story out.
                I
                have attached Jesse's request for personal stories to
                use on his show.  He promises confidentiality. I hope many
                will take this opportunity to tell your story and encourage
                everyone to get behind our efforts to legalize our hobby. 
                Questions or comments are welcome as always.  Tom

                Tom
                CowdreyHobby
                Distiller's
                Associationtomcowdrey@...@...











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              • RLB
                It has come to my attention that owning a still is illegal in some states, and TTB has a right to confiscate any unregistered stills.  For this reason, I
                Message 7 of 7 , May 10 8:29 PM
                  It has come to my attention that owning a still is illegal in some states, and TTB has a right to confiscate any unregistered stills.  For this reason, I would suggest that no one purchase a still from anywhere there is a paper trail that can be be followed back to you.  Even better, make your own still, and make it so it doesn't look like a still.  Moonshiners as an example: A still was made to look like a barbeque.

                  I have a feeling that one of the requirements of legalized Hobby Distilling will be that every home-made, store, and internet purchased still must be turned into a TTB Regional Office for destruction.  I am sure that we will be required to register with the TTB and states, so we are not arrested as moonshiners.  Once we achieve Hobby Distilling, we will then be allowed to purchase TTB registered, approved, and serial numbered stills.  It doesn't seem reasonable that TTB will ever allow us to legally use a home-made or un-serial numbered still without having to register as a still manufacturer.  If we build our own still that doesn't look like a still, they will be easy to hide in plain sight, and we only need to purchase one of those TTB approved stills as a means of being Hobby Distilling legal.

                  Right now, we are moonshiners to them.  TTB will make us jump through hoops to prove that we are Hobby Distillers rather than moonshiners.  As far as they are concerned, we are stealing their revenue, and we (US Hobby Distillers) will become as regulated as pica distilleries.  Moonshiners have no regulation, but there are regulations for both Hobby Wine and Beer production.  I foresee a huge amount of Hobby Distilling regulations as a means of distinguishing us from moonshiners.  We can forget about making spirits on our kitchen stoves, garage, or basements.  Legalizing Hobby Distilling is the easy part.

                  Robert


                  From: "Alli Bugger allibugger@... [new_distillers]" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
                  To: "new_distillers@yahoogroups.com" <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
                  Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:35 AM
                  Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Paperny Entertainment

                   
                  Sorry guys but it is indeed a federal offense to own a still if you have not registered it with the TTB.  The simple act of still possession does not carry fines or arrests but they (the TTB) will confiscate you equipment as demonstrated in Florida in March. 

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