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Re: [new_distillers] Post Fermentation Specific Gravity

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  • Ric Cunningham
    Post fermentation SG will depend on what the wash components are. A typical sugar was will finish around 0.95 but a grain wash may only come down to 1.010.
    Message 1 of 8 , May 3, 2013
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      Post fermentation SG will depend on what the wash components are.  A typical sugar was will finish around 0.95 but a grain wash may only come down to 1.010. The health of the yeast will help determine how low it will finish.


      On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:12 AM, allibugger <allibugger@...> wrote:
       

      I have a copy of ZB's chart on pre-fermentation wort SG and the recommended yeasts at each level at SG going from 1.00 to 1.65. What about post fermentation SG. I am getting a reading of .95 on my hydrameter after all fermentation stops in my sugar water mash. Is there a chart for this? Will it vary depending on the type of mash?

      Thanks for insight. Alli




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    • allibugger
      Thanks Ric. My question was not very well asked and for that I apologise. How do I calculate the %ABV in a suger wash with a .95 SP? Alli
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        Thanks Ric. My question was not very well asked and for that I apologise. How do I calculate the %ABV in a suger wash with a .95 SP?

        Alli

        --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, Ric Cunningham <wilypig@...> wrote:
        >
        > Post fermentation SG will depend on what the wash components are. A
        > typical sugar was will finish around 0.95 but a grain wash may only come
        > down to 1.010. The health of the yeast will help determine how low it will
        > finish.
        >
        >
        > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:12 AM, allibugger <allibugger@...> wrote:
        >
        > > **
        > >
        > >
        > > I have a copy of ZB's chart on pre-fermentation wort SG and the
        > > recommended yeasts at each level at SG going from 1.00 to 1.65. What about
        > > post fermentation SG. I am getting a reading of .95 on my hydrameter after
        > > all fermentation stops in my sugar water mash. Is there a chart for this?
        > > Will it vary depending on the type of mash?
        > >
        > > Thanks for insight. Alli
        > >
        > >
        > >
        >
        >
        >
        > --
        > US Navy - 100% on watch
        >
      • jsducote
        http://homedistiller.org/calcs/alcohol_content
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          http://homedistiller.org/calcs/alcohol_content


          --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "allibugger" <allibugger@...> wrote:
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          > Thanks Ric. My question was not very well asked and for that I apologise. How do I calculate the %ABV in a suger wash with a .95 SP?
          >
          > Alli
        • Chris Cameron
          Use Dave s dreaded actual specific gravity calculator It s here on the site somewhere
          Message 4 of 8 , May 3, 2013
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            Use "Dave's dreaded actual specific gravity calculator" It's here on the site somewhere


            On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 7:12 AM, allibugger <allibugger@...> wrote:
             

            I have a copy of ZB's chart on pre-fermentation wort SG and the recommended yeasts at each level at SG going from 1.00 to 1.65. What about post fermentation SG. I am getting a reading of .95 on my hydrameter after all fermentation stops in my sugar water mash. Is there a chart for this? Will it vary depending on the type of mash?

            Thanks for insight. Alli


          • Bob Glicksman
            Note, though, that if you had only a sugar and water solution, SG would measure the sugar content pre-fermentation (therefore you can estimate the alcohol
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              Note, though, that if you had only a sugar and water solution, SG would measure the sugar content pre-fermentation (therefore you can estimate the alcohol content after fermentation).  After fermentation, the SG of ethanol is around 0.985 and distilled water is, by definition, 1.000, so you can calculate your actual ethanol content if the sugar is fully converted during fermentation.  Outside of sugar-water, and for grains in particular, SG before fermentation gives you a reasonable, but not precise, estimate of sugar (therefore, potential alcohol) but post fermentation SG will be higher than the alcohol/water content because other dissolved substances will impact the reading.  SG is a measure of density of a solution, and does not discriminate between substances which create the same density ("thickness").

              Thus, for starchy feedstock, post fermentation SG is not a good measure of either how complete fermentation is nor the actual alcohol yield.  For that matter, even fruity feedstock has this problem -- winemakers do not measure post fermentation SG (they have something called a Vintometer for this purpose).  After distillation, most of the dissolved material will be left behind and the high proof product can be measured with an alcohol hydrometer to determine proof reasonably well.  Note that an alcohol hydrometer and a sugar (or triple scale) hydrometer are two different instruments.  They both work the same way (measure SG), but the scales are completely different.


              -----Original Message-----
              From: Chris Cameron <gonagin58@...>
              To: new_distillers <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Fri, May 3, 2013 10:12 am
              Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Post Fermentation Specific Gravity

               
              Use "Dave's dreaded actual specific gravity calculator" It's here on the site somewhere


              On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 7:12 AM, allibugger <allibugger@...> wrote:
               
              I have a copy of ZB's chart on pre-fermentation wort SG and the recommended yeasts at each level at SG going from 1.00 to 1.65. What about post fermentation SG. I am getting a reading of .95 on my hydrameter after all fermentation stops in my sugar water mash. Is there a chart for this? Will it vary depending on the type of mash?

              Thanks for insight. Alli


            • Ric Cunningham
              http://abvcalculator.com/ or the full calculation is at this wiki site: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_by_volume You must know your starting gravity ...
              Message 6 of 8 , May 4, 2013
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                or the full calculation is at this wiki site:
                 
                You must know your starting gravity


                On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:22 AM, allibugger <allibugger@...> wrote:
                 

                Thanks Ric. My question was not very well asked and for that I apologise. How do I calculate the %ABV in a suger wash with a .95 SP?

                Alli



                --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, Ric Cunningham <wilypig@...> wrote:
                >
                > Post fermentation SG will depend on what the wash components are. A
                > typical sugar was will finish around 0.95 but a grain wash may only come
                > down to 1.010. The health of the yeast will help determine how low it will
                > finish.
                >
                >
                > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:12 AM, allibugger <allibugger@...> wrote:
                >
                > > **

                > >
                > >
                > > I have a copy of ZB's chart on pre-fermentation wort SG and the
                > > recommended yeasts at each level at SG going from 1.00 to 1.65. What about
                > > post fermentation SG. I am getting a reading of .95 on my hydrameter after
                > > all fermentation stops in my sugar water mash. Is there a chart for this?
                > > Will it vary depending on the type of mash?
                > >
                > > Thanks for insight. Alli
                > >
                > >
                > >
                >
                >
                >
                > --
                > US Navy - 100% on watch
                >




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              • allibugger
                Thanks Ric. I had a brain fart and forgot about the formula. I have it taped on the wall in my garage now so I won t forget it again. Alli
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                  Thanks Ric. I had a brain fart and forgot about the formula. I have it taped on the wall in my garage now so I won't forget it again. Alli
                  --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, Ric Cunningham <wilypig@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > http://abvcalculator.com/
                  > or the full calculation is at this wiki site:
                  > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_by_volume
                  >
                  > You must know your starting gravity
                  >
                  >
                  > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:22 AM, allibugger <allibugger@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > > **
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Thanks Ric. My question was not very well asked and for that I apologise.
                  > > How do I calculate the %ABV in a suger wash with a .95 SP?
                  > >
                  > > Alli
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, Ric Cunningham <wilypig@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > Post fermentation SG will depend on what the wash components are. A
                  > > > typical sugar was will finish around 0.95 but a grain wash may only come
                  > > > down to 1.010. The health of the yeast will help determine how low it
                  > > will
                  > > > finish.
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:12 AM, allibugger <allibugger@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > > **
                  > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > > I have a copy of ZB's chart on pre-fermentation wort SG and the
                  > > > > recommended yeasts at each level at SG going from 1.00 to 1.65. What
                  > > about
                  > > > > post fermentation SG. I am getting a reading of .95 on my hydrameter
                  > > after
                  > > > > all fermentation stops in my sugar water mash. Is there a chart for
                  > > this?
                  > > > > Will it vary depending on the type of mash?
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Thanks for insight. Alli
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > --
                  > > > US Navy - 100% on watch
                  > > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > --
                  > US Navy - 100% on watch
                  >
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