Loading ...
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.

newbie question

Expand Messages
  • wea5148
    Hello fellow distillars. I say this toungue in cheak because I have not yet done any distilling but I would like to learn. I have purchased a small distiller
    Message 1 of 14 , Mar 27 2:00 PM
    • 0 Attachment
      Hello fellow distillars. I say this toungue in cheak because I have not yet done any distilling but I would like to learn. I have purchased a small distiller and have reviewed several recipes but I am having trouble finding the details to the processes for distilling and making the mash. Can someone lend me a hand with this? I would like to learn the basics such as cooking temparatures, how cool the mash should be before adding the yeast, during fermentation should the container be sealed? etc. Thank you much for any assistance?
    • Harry
      All you need for starters... http://www.artisan-distiller.net/presentations/moonshine/img0.html Slainte! regards Harry
      Message 2 of 14 , Mar 27 10:52 PM
      • 0 Attachment
        All you need for starters...

        http://www.artisan-distiller.net/presentations/moonshine/img0.html


        Slainte!
        regards Harry
        =========================================

        --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "wea5148" <wea5148@...> wrote:
        >
        > Hello fellow distillars. I say this toungue in cheak because I have not yet done any distilling but I would like to learn. I have purchased a small distiller and have reviewed several recipes but I am having trouble finding the details to the processes for distilling and making the mash. Can someone lend me a hand with this? I would like to learn the basics such as cooking temparatures, how cool the mash should be before adding the yeast, during fermentation should the container be sealed? etc. Thank you much for any assistance?
        >
      • Bob Glicksman
        There are many good books that you can find in the on-line library: http://distillers.tastylime.net/newSite/homepage.html#. Click on production and you can
        Message 3 of 14 , Mar 28 10:32 AM
        • 0 Attachment
          There are many good books that you can find in the on-line library:  http://distillers.tastylime.net/newSite/homepage.html#.  Click on "production" and you can read these books online at no cost.  You can also get yourself a copy of "Alcohol Can Be A Gas" by David Blume (e.g. on Amazon.com).  This book is about making fuel rather than spirits, but it has lots of information about processing a whole variety of feedstock.

          Although spirit distilling has its own set of quality parameters, what you are doing is essentially making either wine or beer and then distilling it to produce a higher proof spirit (perhaps then coloring and flavoring the spirit after distillation).  Therefore, any book on wine or beer making will get you started.  Wine is made by fermenting sugars occurring naturally in plants (i.e. fruit juices).  Beer is made from plant starch, which is essentially a plant's way of storing sugar for when the sun doesn't shine.  Plants (particularly in their sprouted stage) contain natural enzymes which convert the starches back into sugars.  You "mash up" the starchy material in water (the mash), cook the mash in  enzymes to convert the starches to sugars, and then ferment it, just like fermenting fruit juice to wine. 



          -----Original Message-----
          From: wea5148 <wea5148@...>
          To: new_distillers <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:34 pm
          Subject: [new_distillers] newbie question

           
          Hello fellow distillars. I say this toungue in cheak because I have not yet done any distilling but I would like to learn. I have purchased a small distiller and have reviewed several recipes but I am having trouble finding the details to the processes for distilling and making the mash. Can someone lend me a hand with this? I would like to learn the basics such as cooking temparatures, how cool the mash should be before adding the yeast, during fermentation should the container be sealed? etc. Thank you much for any assistance?

        • wea5148
          Friendly Distillers. Thank you much for your advise and recommendations. I will definately continue to educate myself. I am learning that distilling is more of
          Message 4 of 14 , Mar 28 6:35 PM
          • 0 Attachment
            Friendly Distillers. Thank you much for your advise and recommendations. I will definately continue to educate myself. I am learning that distilling is more of an art versus a science. Perhaps I shopuld call you professors "distilling artist". Again, I greatly appreciate you taking the time to help a newbie out.

            --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, Bob Glicksman <bobg542492@...> wrote:
            >
            > There are many good books that you can find in the on-line library: http://distillers.tastylime.net/newSite/homepage.html#. Click on "production" and you can read these books online at no cost. You can also get yourself a copy of "Alcohol Can Be A Gas" by David Blume (e.g. on Amazon.com). This book is about making fuel rather than spirits, but it has lots of information about processing a whole variety of feedstock.
            >
            >
            > Although spirit distilling has its own set of quality parameters, what you are doing is essentially making either wine or beer and then distilling it to produce a higher proof spirit (perhaps then coloring and flavoring the spirit after distillation). Therefore, any book on wine or beer making will get you started. Wine is made by fermenting sugars occurring naturally in plants (i.e. fruit juices). Beer is made from plant starch, which is essentially a plant's way of storing sugar for when the sun doesn't shine. Plants (particularly in their sprouted stage) contain natural enzymes which convert the starches back into sugars. You "mash up" the starchy material in water (the mash), cook the mash in enzymes to convert the starches to sugars, and then ferment it, just like fermenting fruit juice to wine.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: wea5148 <wea5148@...>
            > To: new_distillers <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
            > Sent: Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:34 pm
            > Subject: [new_distillers] newbie question
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Hello fellow distillars. I say this toungue in cheak because I have not yet done any distilling but I would like to learn. I have purchased a small distiller and have reviewed several recipes but I am having trouble finding the details to the processes for distilling and making the mash. Can someone lend me a hand with this? I would like to learn the basics such as cooking temparatures, how cool the mash should be before adding the yeast, during fermentation should the container be sealed? etc. Thank you much for any assistance?
            >
          • Richard Costa
            I want to second that sentiment. There is no substitute for experience and thank you to all who share that.  BTW, I had some of Junior Johnson s Midnight
            Message 5 of 14 , Mar 29 6:56 AM
            • 0 Attachment
              I want to second that sentiment. There is no substitute for experience and thank you to all who share that. 

              BTW, I had some of Junior Johnson's Midnight Moonshine cranberry a couple nights ago, which is sold legally. It's sold at 100 proof and was very good but left me with a bit of a dull headache. I'd like to hear some expert opinions on this. Is this because of the yeasts, the alcohol, or was it me? My daughter insists it's just basic dehydration from alcohol. Comments?

              Richard




              From: wea5148 <wea5148@...>
              To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:35 PM
              Subject: [new_distillers] Re: newbie question

               
              Friendly Distillers. Thank you much for your advise and recommendations. I will definately continue to educate myself. I am learning that distilling is more of an art versus a science. Perhaps I shopuld call you professors "distilling artist". Again, I greatly appreciate you taking the time to help a newbie out.

              --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, Bob Glicksman <bobg542492@...> wrote:
              >
              > There are many good books that you can find in the on-line library: http://distillers.tastylime.net/newSite/homepage.html#. Click on "production" and you can read these books online at no cost. You can also get yourself a copy of "Alcohol Can Be A Gas" by David Blume (e.g. on Amazon.com). This book is about making fuel rather than spirits, but it has lots of information about processing a whole variety of feedstock.
              >
              >
              > Although spirit distilling has its own set of quality parameters, what you are doing is essentially making either wine or beer and then distilling it to produce a higher proof spirit (perhaps then coloring and flavoring the spirit after distillation). Therefore, any book on wine or beer making will get you started. Wine is made by fermenting sugars occurring naturally in plants (i.e. fruit juices). Beer is made from plant starch, which is essentially a plant's way of storing sugar for when the sun doesn't shine. Plants (particularly in their sprouted stage) contain natural enzymes which convert the starches back into sugars. You "mash up" the starchy material in water (the mash), cook the mash in enzymes to convert the starches to sugars, and then ferment it, just like fermenting fruit juice to wine.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > -----Original Message-----
              > From: wea5148 <wea5148@...>
              > To: new_distillers <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
              > Sent: Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:34 pm
              > Subject: [new_distillers] newbie question
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Hello fellow distillars. I say this toungue in cheak because I have not yet done any distilling but I would like to learn. I have purchased a small distiller and have reviewed several recipes but I am having trouble finding the details to the processes for distilling and making the mash. Can someone lend me a hand with this? I would like to learn the basics such as cooking temparatures, how cool the mash should be before adding the yeast, during fermentation should the container be sealed? etc. Thank you much for any assistance?
              >



            • Alex Netherton
              Did you get the headache directly after drinking, or the next morning? Remember that Junior s stuff is not the same as his daddy s, which was traditionally
              Message 6 of 14 , Mar 30 12:58 PM
              • 0 Attachment
                Did you get the headache directly after drinking, or the next morning? Remember that Junior's "stuff" is not the same as his daddy's,  which was traditionally distilled, was not adulterated, and was sold at about 150 proof, and was quite likely more "pure". Plus, in that day, people didn't make stuff as on TV's "Moonshiners" (this stuff ain't fer drinkin', it's fer sellin'), but made it the same for family and for sale.

                I would suspect a possible sensitivity to cranberry, and maybe something that got "pulled" out of the berries by the alcohol. Try some straight Midnight Moon.

                I am scandalized by these moonshines; a fifth of Jack, Beam, or Turkey will cost you less than $20, and Makers Mark will cost about $25. All of them are bonded and barrel aged, with Bourbon laws (aged at least 2 years in a NEW charred White Oak barrel, and at a set proof in the barrel, bonded by the US Government, etc. etc.) These "Moonshines" cost about as much as a very good Bourbon or a decent Malt Scotch (an even more convoluted and expensive aging process), and are not aged, or anything. You can go out in the hills, find a moonshiner making it right, and get a gallon for about $20. Somebody is making money off raw whiskey...
                Alex Netherton
                Blue Ridge Discovery

                On 3/29/2013 9:56 AM, Richard Costa wrote:
                 
                I want to second that sentiment. There is no substitute for experience and thank you to all who share that. 

                BTW, I had some of Junior Johnson's Midnight Moonshine cranberry a couple nights ago, which is sold legally. It's sold at 100 proof and was very good but left me with a bit of a dull headache. I'd like to hear some expert opinions on this. Is this because of the yeasts, the alcohol, or was it me? My daughter insists it's just basic dehydration from alcohol. Comments?

                Richard




                From: wea5148 <wea5148@...>
                To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:35 PM
                Subject: [new_distillers] Re: newbie question

                 
                Friendly Distillers. Thank you much for your advise and recommendations. I will definately continue to educate myself. I am learning that distilling is more of an art versus a science. Perhaps I shopuld call you professors "distilling artist". Again, I greatly appreciate you taking the time to help a newbie out.

                --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, Bob Glicksman <bobg542492@...> wrote:
                >
                > There are many good books that you can find in the on-line library: http://distillers.tastylime.net/newSite/homepage.html#. Click on "production" and you can read these books online at no cost. You can also get yourself a copy of "Alcohol Can Be A Gas" by David Blume (e.g. on Amazon.com). This book is about making fuel rather than spirits, but it has lots of information about processing a whole variety of feedstock.
                >
                >
                > Although spirit distilling has its own set of quality parameters, what you are doing is essentially making either wine or beer and then distilling it to produce a higher proof spirit (perhaps then coloring and flavoring the spirit after distillation). Therefore, any book on wine or beer making will get you started. Wine is made by fermenting sugars occurring naturally in plants (i.e. fruit juices). Beer is made from plant starch, which is essentially a plant's way of storing sugar for when the sun doesn't shine. Plants (particularly in their sprouted stage) contain natural enzymes which convert the starches back into sugars. You "mash up" the starchy material in water (the mash), cook the mash in enzymes to convert the starches to sugars, and then ferment it, just like fermenting fruit juice to wine.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: wea5148 <wea5148@...>
                > To: new_distillers <new_distillers@yahoogroups.com>
                > Sent: Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:34 pm
                > Subject: [new_distillers] newbie question
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > Hello fellow distillars. I say this toungue in cheak because I have not yet done any distilling but I would like to learn. I have purchased a small distiller and have reviewed several recipes but I am having trouble finding the details to the processes for distilling and making the mash. Can someone lend me a hand with this? I would like to learn the basics such as cooking temparatures, how cool the mash should be before adding the yeast, during fermentation should the container be sealed? etc. Thank you much for any assistance?
                >




              Your message has been successfully submitted and would be delivered to recipients shortly.