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  • Damion Pseudonym
    Yeah, I gotta say, I kinda really wish this one came with pictures.... ... -- ... I am riding in the Aids Life Cycle SF --- LA ride this year, Please Consider
    Message 1 of 13 , Feb 22, 2013
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      Yeah, I gotta say, I kinda really wish this one came with pictures....

      On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 5:32 PM, <self.adhesive@...> wrote:
       

      wow what a thought banana everywhere



       

      I just tried a banana mash just 5 gal, thank god it was in my shower about 1:00am a big boom brought me up out of the bed lol I had banana mash all over the bath room what whint wrong added no shugar and used on pack of yeast the brew store give me what tha hell man ????????




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    • tgfoitwoods
      I think it s because so many of us started as winemakers and brewers, where it s important that whatever you bottle and put away for a while, at 4-14%ABV,
      Message 2 of 13 , Feb 23, 2013
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        I think it's because so many of us started as winemakers and brewers, where it's important that whatever you bottle and put away for a while, at 4-14%ABV, needs to be pretty sanitary, and the smaller the fermenter (the hobbyists 5 or 6 gallons as opposed to a commercial 3,000 or 5,000 gallon) is harder to keep sanitary.

        Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller Making Fine Spirits

        --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, RLB <last2blast@...> wrote:
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        > I kind of wonder why we use airlocks too!  I watched a Seagram vid and they had a 10,000 gal vats room that were wide open.  Moonshines never seem to use them either.  My first guess would be wild yeast and bacteria.  Years ago, I made a sugar wine that was 19 abv and my containers were never sealed and used an airlock.  I will say one thing about using an airlock is that it keeps the odor down if you live in an apartment building.
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        > In my next experiment, I will test 5 gal. airlock sugar wash verses 5 gal sugar wash with a cover loosely placed on top.  I am waiting for warmer weather before using grains,so my windows can stay open 24/7
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        > Robert 
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      • RLB
        With that said, I will make adjustments to that part of my wash and wort process accordingly.  I will have to try bananas because a local store sells spotted
        Message 3 of 13 , Feb 23, 2013
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          With that said, I will make adjustments to that part of my wash and wort process accordingly.  I will have to try bananas because a local store sells spotted bananas half price.  We talk about grains a great deal as in corn, so I really need to try fresh corn right out of the field , canned corn, and cracked corn in my experiments.  My hope is to avoid boiling with fresh and canned corn.

          Robert



          From: tgfoitwoods <zymurgybob@...>
          To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 2:09 PM
          Subject: [new_distillers] Re: ok

           
          I think it's because so many of us started as winemakers and brewers, where it's important that whatever you bottle and put away for a while, at 4-14%ABV, needs to be pretty sanitary, and the smaller the fermenter (the hobbyists 5 or 6 gallons as opposed to a commercial 3,000 or 5,000 gallon) is harder to keep sanitary.

          Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller Making Fine Spirits

          --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, RLB <last2blast@...> wrote:
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          > I kind of wonder why we use airlocks too!  I watched a Seagram vid and they had a 10,000 gal vats room that were wide open.  Moonshines never seem to use them either.  My first guess would be wild yeast and bacteria.  Years ago, I made a sugar wine that was 19 abv and my containers were never sealed and used an airlock.  I will say one thing about using an airlock is that it keeps the odor down if you live in an apartment building.
          >
          > In my next experiment, I will test 5 gal. airlock sugar wash verses 5 gal sugar wash with a cover loosely placed on top.  I am waiting for warmer weather before using grains,so my windows can stay open 24/7
          >
          > Robert 
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        • Ric Cunningham
          corn mash is traditionally made with corn grits or course ground corn meal. To access the starch you need to gelatinize the meal. Mix with water cook at a low
          Message 4 of 13 , Feb 25, 2013
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            corn mash is traditionally made with corn grits or course ground corn meal. To access the starch you need to gelatinize the meal. Mix with water cook at a low boil for about 15 minutes. Mix this with the rest of your grain mash at 150 degrees F for conversion. This is how the big boys (ABInbev/SABMiller) make most of their beer.

            On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 2:19 PM, RLB <last2blast@...> wrote:
             

            With that said, I will make adjustments to that part of my wash and wort process accordingly.  I will have to try bananas because a local store sells spotted bananas half price.  We talk about grains a great deal as in corn, so I really need to try fresh corn right out of the field , canned corn, and cracked corn in my experiments.  My hope is to avoid boiling with fresh and canned corn.

            Robert



            From: tgfoitwoods <zymurgybob@...>
            To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 2:09 PM
            Subject: [new_distillers] Re: ok

             
            I think it's because so many of us started as winemakers and brewers, where it's important that whatever you bottle and put away for a while, at 4-14%ABV, needs to be pretty sanitary, and the smaller the fermenter (the hobbyists 5 or 6 gallons as opposed to a commercial 3,000 or 5,000 gallon) is harder to keep sanitary.

            Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller Making Fine Spirits

            --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, RLB <last2blast@...> wrote:
            >
            > I kind of wonder why we use airlocks too!  I watched a Seagram vid and they had a 10,000 gal vats room that were wide open.  Moonshines never seem to use them either.  My first guess would be wild yeast and bacteria.  Years ago, I made a sugar wine that was 19 abv and my containers were never sealed and used an airlock.  I will say one thing about using an airlock is that it keeps the odor down if you live in an apartment building.
            >
            > In my next experiment, I will test 5 gal. airlock sugar wash verses 5 gal sugar wash with a cover loosely placed on top.  I am waiting for warmer weather before using grains,so my windows can stay open 24/7
            >
            > Robert 
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            >
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          • daryl_bee
            This sounds like the time I added a heap of DAP (di-amonium phosphate) nutrient to a stuck 10 gallon ferment (stuck at about 12%) at near midnight. It seemed a
            Message 5 of 13 , Feb 25, 2013
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              This sounds like the time I added a heap of DAP (di-amonium phosphate) nutrient to a stuck 10 gallon ferment (stuck at about 12%) at near midnight. It seemed a reasonable idea at the time. The fermentor (totally open to add the DAP) was on the kitchen table inside a 2ft x 4ft x 3in catch tray. I was totally unprepared for the resulting "volcano". There must have been 4 cubic feet of frothing mash exiting the fermentor (do the math on the catch tray). It started like the Bellagio and subsided like a cascading 4 sided waterfall out of the fermentor, off the kitchen table and chairs onto the floor. Clean-up was like walking with moon boots given all the stickiness. I was in the dog-house for a while after that one.

              FWIW the bomb effect is due to rapid CO2 release out of solution. "A little DAP will do ya" :-)



              --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "Donnie" <streetroddonnie@...> wrote:
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              > I just tried a banana mash just 5 gal, thank god it was in my shower about 1:00am a big boom brought me up out of the bed lol I had banana mash all over the bath room what whint wrong added no shugar and used on pack of yeast the brew store give me what tha hell man ????????
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            • RLB
              12%?  It s ready to distill, so not likely stuck.  Rather finished fermenting.  I only use 1 tbsp DAP per gal. with EC-1118 yeast.  If you use too much DAP
              Message 6 of 13 , Feb 25, 2013
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                12%?  It's ready to distill, so not likely stuck.  Rather finished fermenting.  I only use 1 tbsp DAP per gal. with EC-1118 yeast.  If you use too much DAP with ec-1118 you can make a turbo like yeast, but that turbo yeast might take an added charcoal filter step to remove a stale taste.

                Robert



                From: daryl_bee <darylbender@...>
                To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 3:39 PM
                Subject: [new_distillers] Re: ok

                 
                This sounds like the time I added a heap of DAP (di-amonium phosphate) nutrient to a stuck 10 gallon ferment (stuck at about 12%) at near midnight. It seemed a reasonable idea at the time. The fermentor (totally open to add the DAP) was on the kitchen table inside a 2ft x 4ft x 3in catch tray. I was totally unprepared for the resulting "volcano". There must have been 4 cubic feet of frothing mash exiting the fermentor (do the math on the catch tray). It started like the Bellagio and subsided like a cascading 4 sided waterfall out of the fermentor, off the kitchen table and chairs onto the floor. Clean-up was like walking with moon boots given all the stickiness. I was in the dog-house for a while after that one.

                FWIW the bomb effect is due to rapid CO2 release out of solution. "A little DAP will do ya" :-)

                --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "Donnie" wrote:
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                > I just tried a banana mash just 5 gal, thank god it was in my shower about 1:00am a big boom brought me up out of the bed lol I had banana mash all over the bath room what whint wrong added no shugar and used on pack of yeast the brew store give me what tha hell man ????????
                >



              • Stephen Arnold
                well that was one of the more entertaining posts I ve read lol. volcano? bilagio? cascading waterfall? you ve just about talked me into trying this
                Message 7 of 13 , Feb 26, 2013
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                  well that was one of the more entertaining posts I've read lol. volcano? bilagio? cascading waterfall? you've just about talked me into trying this

                  From: daryl_bee <darylbender@...>
                  To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 3:39 PM
                  Subject: [new_distillers] Re: ok
                   
                  This sounds like the time I added a heap of DAP (di-amonium phosphate) nutrient to a stuck 10 gallon ferment (stuck at about 12%) at near midnight. It seemed a reasonable idea at the time. The fermentor (totally open to add the DAP) was on the kitchen table inside a 2ft x 4ft x 3in catch tray. I was totally unprepared for the resulting "volcano". There must have been 4 cubic feet of frothing mash exiting the fermentor (do the math on the catch tray). It started like the Bellagio and subsided like a cascading 4 sided waterfall out of the fermentor, off the kitchen table and chairs onto the floor. Clean-up was like walking with moon boots given all the stickiness. I was in the dog-house for a while after that one.

                  FWIW the bomb effect is due to rapid CO2 release out of solution. "A little DAP will do ya" :-)

                  --- In mailto:new_distillers%40yahoogroups.com, "Donnie" wrote:
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                  > I just tried a banana mash just 5 gal, thank god it was in my shower about 1:00am a big boom brought me up out of the bed lol I had banana mash all over the bath room what whint wrong added no shugar and used on pack of yeast the brew store give me what tha hell man ????????
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