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  • tgfoitwoods
    I d say the answer is the same as How many times do I use a Kleenex? . The first time is always the best, and it gets less satisfactory each time you use it.
    Message 1 of 9 , Sep 4, 2012
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      I'd say the answer is the same as "How many times do I use a Kleenex?". The first time is always the best, and it gets less satisfactory each time you use it. That's why part of the bourbon specification is aging in "a new charred oak barrel". You don't get as much flavor addition from aging in a used charred oak barrel, but you do get some improvement. Whether or not that good enough for you is up to you, kinda like the Kleenex.

      While I like used toasted oak for aging some liquors, I always make new char for aging bourbon.

      Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller Making Fine Spirits

      --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "jsducote" <jsducote@...> wrote:
      >
      > I just googled 'how many times to reuse a whiskey barrel' and found some information that should give you a rough idea. Amazing how that works.
      >
      > In the end, you're probably going to have to experiment on your own and figure out what works (tastes) best for you. Once you've distilled your wash you're leaving science behind.
      > -j
      >
      > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" johnjab01@ wrote:
      > >
      > > Any advice anyone??
      > >
      > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" <johnjab01@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > This is my first post. I have successfully ran 2 batches of sugar wash through my 5 gallon pot still.
      > > >
      > > > I have done alot of reading & planning before I ran(I'm glad I did).
      > > > Both runs turned out well.
      > > >
      > > > I filtered the finished product through hickory chunks that I charred in a campfire, which really seemed to smooth the drink.
      > > >
      > > > Now my question is how many times can I re-use the same charcoled hickory? Can it be used forever? Will I need to made new chars? if so, how often? I have used my original hickory both times. I just rinse it with water & let dry & put it in a ziplock bag for next time.
      > > >
      > > > Any advice buy you pro's is appreciated.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Thanks..........John
      >
    • waljaco
      I thought for bourbon maple charcoal is used. It imparts flavor from residual sugars etc. For more efficient filtering you need activated charcoal which can be
      Message 2 of 9 , Sep 4, 2012
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        I thought for bourbon maple charcoal is used. It imparts flavor from residual sugars etc. For more efficient filtering you need activated charcoal which can be reused by boiling.
        wal

        --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "jsducote" <jsducote@...> wrote:
        >
        > I just googled 'how many times to reuse a whiskey barrel' and found some information that should give you a rough idea. Amazing how that works.
        >
        > In the end, you're probably going to have to experiment on your own and figure out what works (tastes) best for you. Once you've distilled your wash you're leaving science behind.
        > -j
        >
        > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" <johnjab01@> wrote:
        > >
        > > Any advice anyone??
        > >
        > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" <johnjab01@> wrote:
        > > >
        > > > This is my first post. I have successfully ran 2 batches of sugar wash through my 5 gallon pot still.
        > > >
        > > > I have done alot of reading & planning before I ran(I'm glad I did).
        > > > Both runs turned out well.
        > > >
        > > > I filtered the finished product through hickory chunks that I charred in a campfire, which really seemed to smooth the drink.
        > > >
        > > > Now my question is how many times can I re-use the same charcoled hickory? Can it be used forever? Will I need to made new chars? if so, how often? I have used my original hickory both times. I just rinse it with water & let dry & put it in a ziplock bag for next time.
        > > >
        > > > Any advice buy you pro's is appreciated.
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > Thanks..........John
        >
      • mav
        Waljaco, your right! Hickory wood is usually / mainly, used for smoking meats. Cheers Marc
        Message 3 of 9 , Sep 5, 2012
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          Waljaco, your right! Hickory wood is usually / mainly, used for smoking meats.

          Cheers
          Marc

          --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "waljaco" <waljaco@...> wrote:
          >
          > I thought for bourbon maple charcoal is used. It imparts flavor from residual sugars etc. For more efficient filtering you need activated charcoal which can be reused by boiling.
          > wal
          >
          > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "jsducote" <jsducote@> wrote:
          > >
          > > I just googled 'how many times to reuse a whiskey barrel' and found some information that should give you a rough idea. Amazing how that works.
          > >
          > > In the end, you're probably going to have to experiment on your own and figure out what works (tastes) best for you. Once you've distilled your wash you're leaving science behind.
          > > -j
          > >
          > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" <johnjab01@> wrote:
          > > >
          > > > Any advice anyone??
          > > >
          > > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" <johnjab01@> wrote:
          > > > >
          > > > > This is my first post. I have successfully ran 2 batches of sugar wash through my 5 gallon pot still.
          > > > >
          > > > > I have done alot of reading & planning before I ran(I'm glad I did).
          > > > > Both runs turned out well.
          > > > >
          > > > > I filtered the finished product through hickory chunks that I charred in a campfire, which really seemed to smooth the drink.
          > > > >
          > > > > Now my question is how many times can I re-use the same charcoled hickory? Can it be used forever? Will I need to made new chars? if so, how often? I have used my original hickory both times. I just rinse it with water & let dry & put it in a ziplock bag for next time.
          > > > >
          > > > > Any advice buy you pro's is appreciated.
          > > > >
          > > > >
          > > > > Thanks..........John
          > >
          >
        • waljaco
          Early Russian vodka was filtered using birch charcoal. I think my axe handle is made from hickory. wal
          Message 4 of 9 , Sep 5, 2012
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            Early Russian vodka was filtered using birch charcoal.
            I think my axe handle is made from hickory.

            wal

            --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "mav" <mavnkaf@...> wrote:
            >
            > Waljaco, your right! Hickory wood is usually / mainly, used for smoking meats.
            >
            > Cheers
            > Marc
            >
            > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "waljaco" <waljaco@> wrote:
            > >
            > > I thought for bourbon maple charcoal is used. It imparts flavor from residual sugars etc. For more efficient filtering you need activated charcoal which can be reused by boiling.
            > > wal
            > >
            > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "jsducote" <jsducote@> wrote:
            > > >
            > > > I just googled 'how many times to reuse a whiskey barrel' and found some information that should give you a rough idea. Amazing how that works.
            > > >
            > > > In the end, you're probably going to have to experiment on your own and figure out what works (tastes) best for you. Once you've distilled your wash you're leaving science behind.
            > > > -j
            > > >
            > > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" <johnjab01@> wrote:
            > > > >
            > > > > Any advice anyone??
            > > > >
            > > > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" <johnjab01@> wrote:
            > > > > >
            > > > > > This is my first post. I have successfully ran 2 batches of sugar wash through my 5 gallon pot still.
            > > > > >
            > > > > > I have done alot of reading & planning before I ran(I'm glad I did).
            > > > > > Both runs turned out well.
            > > > > >
            > > > > > I filtered the finished product through hickory chunks that I charred in a campfire, which really seemed to smooth the drink.
            > > > > >
            > > > > > Now my question is how many times can I re-use the same charcoled hickory? Can it be used forever? Will I need to made new chars? if so, how often? I have used my original hickory both times. I just rinse it with water & let dry & put it in a ziplock bag for next time.
            > > > > >
            > > > > > Any advice buy you pro's is appreciated.
            > > > > >
            > > > > >
            > > > > > Thanks..........John
            > > >
            > >
            >
          • tgfoitwoods
            Hi Wal, Actually, the maple charcoal is used to flavor and modify Tennessee whiskey. Charred oak is used to give bourbon its characteristic taste. Hickory is
            Message 5 of 9 , Sep 6, 2012
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              Hi Wal,

              Actually, the maple charcoal is used to flavor and modify Tennessee whiskey. Charred oak is used to give bourbon its characteristic  taste. Hickory is used to age some rums.

              I once used that rum to make a drink for a physician friend of mine, and he asked, "What the hell is this?" I told him, "It's a hickory daquiri, Doc."

              Ba dump bump

              Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller Making Fine Spirits

              --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "waljaco" <waljaco@...> wrote:
              >
              > I thought for bourbon maple charcoal is used. It imparts flavor from residual sugars etc. For more efficient filtering you need activated charcoal which can be reused by boiling.
              > wal
              >
              > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "jsducote" jsducote@ wrote:
              > >
              > > I just googled 'how many times to reuse a whiskey barrel' and found some information that should give you a rough idea. Amazing how that works.
              > >
              > > In the end, you're probably going to have to experiment on your own and figure out what works (tastes) best for you. Once you've distilled your wash you're leaving science behind.
              > > -j
              > >
              > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" <johnjab01@> wrote:
              > > >
              > > > Any advice anyone??
              > > >
              > > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" <johnjab01@> wrote:
              > > > >
              > > > > This is my first post. I have successfully ran 2 batches of sugar wash through my 5 gallon pot still.
              > > > >
              > > > > I have done alot of reading & planning before I ran(I'm glad I did).
              > > > > Both runs turned out well.
              > > > >
              > > > > I filtered the finished product through hickory chunks that I charred in a campfire, which really seemed to smooth the drink.
              > > > >
              > > > > Now my question is how many times can I re-use the same charcoled hickory? Can it be used forever? Will I need to made new chars? if so, how often? I have used my original hickory both times. I just rinse it with water & let dry & put it in a ziplock bag for next time.
              > > > >
              > > > > Any advice buy you pro's is appreciated.
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > > Thanks..........John
              > >
              >
            • waljaco
              Chestnut casks are used in Italy and Spain - so other woods other than oak can be used (unless toxic!) wal
              Message 6 of 9 , Sep 6, 2012
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                Chestnut casks are used in Italy and Spain - so other woods other than oak can be used (unless toxic!)
                wal

                --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "tgfoitwoods" <zymurgybob@...> wrote:
                >
                > Hi Wal,
                >
                > Actually, the maple charcoal is used to flavor and modify Tennessee
                > whiskey. Charred oak is used to give bourbon its characteristic taste.
                > Hickory is used to age some rums.
                >
                > I once used that rum to make a drink for a physician friend of mine, and
                > he asked, "What the hell is this?" I told him, "It's a hickory daquiri,
                > Doc."
                >
                > Ba dump bump
                >
                > Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller Making Fine Spirits
                > <http://www.kelleybarts.com/zymurgy-bob-books/making-fine-spirits/>
                >
                > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "waljaco" <waljaco@> wrote:
                > >
                > > I thought for bourbon maple charcoal is used. It imparts flavor from
                > residual sugars etc. For more efficient filtering you need activated
                > charcoal which can be reused by boiling.
                > > wal
                > >
                > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "jsducote" jsducote@ wrote:
                > > >
                > > > I just googled 'how many times to reuse a whiskey barrel' and found
                > some information that should give you a rough idea. Amazing how that
                > works.
                > > >
                > > > In the end, you're probably going to have to experiment on your own
                > and figure out what works (tastes) best for you. Once you've distilled
                > your wash you're leaving science behind.
                > > > -j
                > > >
                > > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" <johnjab01@>
                > wrote:
                > > > >
                > > > > Any advice anyone??
                > > > >
                > > > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "johnjab01" <johnjab01@>
                > wrote:
                > > > > >
                > > > > > This is my first post. I have successfully ran 2 batches of
                > sugar wash through my 5 gallon pot still.
                > > > > >
                > > > > > I have done alot of reading & planning before I ran(I'm glad I
                > did).
                > > > > > Both runs turned out well.
                > > > > >
                > > > > > I filtered the finished product through hickory chunks that I
                > charred in a campfire, which really seemed to smooth the drink.
                > > > > >
                > > > > > Now my question is how many times can I re-use the same
                > charcoled hickory? Can it be used forever? Will I need to made new
                > chars? if so, how often? I have used my original hickory both times. I
                > just rinse it with water & let dry & put it in a ziplock bag for next
                > time.
                > > > > >
                > > > > > Any advice buy you pro's is appreciated.
                > > > > >
                > > > > >
                > > > > > Thanks..........John
                > > >
                > >
                >
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