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  • ben marks
    take this for what ever you think it is worth i have a friend who is a atf agent (and who also likes the stuff i make) he told there has never been a cast
    Message 1 of 7 , May 11, 2010
      take this for what ever you think it is worth 
      i have a friend who is a atf agent (and who also likes the stuff i make) he told there has never been a cast prosecuted that did not evolve sales.

      Some people are like slinkies- not good for anything, But it sure is fun to push them down the stairs


      To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
      From: bigdaddyg851@...
      Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 22:00:09 +0000
      Subject: [new_distillers] Re: Another Newbie Here


      --- In new_distillers@ yahoogroups. com, "jamesonbeam1" <jamesonbeam1@ ...> wrote:
      >WoW waldo,
      I'm almost afraid to click on any links at that site :). lots of information there from atf most wanted to business opportunities .cool site, thanks waldo !
      > Actually Big,
      > They do. Check out http://www.atf. gov/ <http://www.atf. gov/> . Yes,
      > distilling without the federal and state required permits is against the
      > law. Im afraid Wildforager was breaking the law by even doing cold
      > distillation or fractional crystalization, since it increases alcohol by
      > volume above the legal limits of fermentation from yeast as allowed in
      > the beer and wine making regulations.
      > However (yes the ol' ya butt comma), owning a still in the US of A is
      > legal. Its what and how much you distill through it. Our friends at
      > the BATF are way more interested and focused on what we term
      > "Bootlegging" . If you review the most recent alcohol busts, these are
      > related to the idiots that try and make large quantities of ethanol for
      > drinking purposes and selling across state lines, without paying the
      > government its hard earned taxes. Not to mention the much larger drug
      > problems around here thanks to the South Americans and poppy growers
      > over in that European country. In short, if one is making a quart or 2
      > for personal consumption, im sure they will not be put on the "most
      > wanted list". We are here to make distilling safe and someday be made
      > legal as is beer and wine making today. This is why we tell people
      > around here that this is just a hobby for personal use and DO NOT SELL
      > your product.
      > Im afraid, from personal experience, that this is not his biggest
      > obstacle... Trying to hide your hobby from someone living with you is
      > totally impossible.. . [;)]
      > Vino es Veritas,
      > Jim aka Waldo.
      > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
      > --- In new_distillers@ yahoogroups. com, "bigdaddyg851" <bigdaddyg851@ >
      > wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In new_distillers@ yahoogroups. com, "wildforager1" moonwise_herbs@
      > wrote:
      > > >evrything you want to know is here. http://homedistille r.org
      > <http://homedistille r.org > i dont know about specific penalties,
      > does the ATF HAVE A SITE ?
      > > bigdaddyg
      > > > Hello,
      > > >
      > > > I've been making my own wine and beer for a little over 10 years and
      > I'm finally thinking of taking the next step. I've been ice distilling
      > my wine during the cold winters here in WI but I realize I could get a
      > much nicer product with a pot still. I've started to collect some of the
      > parts and pieces for my rig already. I have come up against one obstacle
      > though.... my girlfriend. She lives here too is worried about the
      > legalities of me using a still. If I'm just making some applejack or
      > brandy once and a while what's the big deal? I imagine if I would get
      > busted I'd get a fine. Does anyone know what are the specifics on the
      > penalties? Maybe point me to a link for more info?
      > > >
      > > > Thanks,
      > > > Wildforager
      > > >
      > >

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