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Re: Fractions (was) Heads, tails, backset and the kitchen sink

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  • chefriverrat
    For my pot still i packed it with marbles it gives a verry nice pot stil but wont strip all f flavers if you dont want but will give clean flaverd spiret on
    Message 1 of 18 , Mar 8, 2008
      For my pot still i packed it with marbles it gives a verry nice pot
      stil but wont strip all f flavers if you dont want but will give
      clean flaverd spiret on second run
      --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "Sherman" <pintoshine@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > I ran one of those 2" http://www.moonshine-still.com/ type on the
      left
      > of this page several years ago. I used marbles in it. Run correctly,
      > which was not that hard, it made the cleanest vodka I can remember.
      > For clean spirits marbles work really well. I don't think marbles
      > would be good for making flavored spirits. A good old pot is the way
      > to go.
      >
      > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "morganfield1"
      > <morganfield1@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hey Pint, and anyone else,
      > >
      > > Am I correct in thinking that individual components of a wash
      (Meth,
      > > ethol acetate, ect.) will tend to be more prevelant (I don't know
      > > quite how to word this) at the head of the still (reflux) when
      the
      > > head temp is near their boiling points. In other words, givin
      that
      > > methanol is present thru out the run, most comes off first.
      Propanol
      > > is also present thru out the run, most comes off after the heart.
      So
      > > head temps are only an INDICATION of what is at the top of still
      > > ready to be condensed?
      > >
      > > Also, as I am making whiskey, I don't want alot of reflux going
      on in
      > > my column (LM), so I'm going to try marbles. Has anyone had any
      > > experience they would like to pass on?
      > >
      > > Tip one, Morgan
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "Sherman" <pintoshine@>
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > In this case Riku, you are correct. Those temps you quote
      really
      > > have
      > > > less bearing on the distillation behavior as does the the vapor
      > > > pressure each on exhibits at the various temperatures of
      > > distillation.
      > > > Raoult's law for non-ideal mixtures specifies that each
      component
      > > will
      > > > contribute to the gas mixture coming from the boiling mixture
      > > through
      > > > out the complete distillation until the mixture is exhausted.
      > > > In plain words it says the the boiling point is a combination
      of all
      > > > things in the mixture base on their mole fractions. Through the
      > > > distillation batch that amount of each component gassing off
      will
      > > > depend on how much is in the mixture, not at what temperature
      it is
      > > > at. The equilibrium phase, the point at which the vapor
      pressure is
      > > > equal atmospheric pressure, is the boiling point and is
      controlled
      > > by
      > > > the amounts of things in the mixture. This was well represented
      by
      > > the
      > > > charts recently discussed. The temperature does not control
      which
      > > > things come out and which stay in. In the case of all the
      components
      > > > you listed, each will occur throughout the distillation, just in
      > > > different fractions. There are no clear delineations for any of
      the
      > > > components.
      > > > The methanol will be in all parts of the foreshots, heads
      hearts and
      > > > tails equal to the ratio at which it started out until there is
      non
      > > > left in the mix. The distribution of methanol to ethanol looks
      very
      > > > linear when samples from a gas chromatograph are plotted.
      Luckily,
      > > our
      > > > production has no more of all these things than is in the
      original
      > > > wash, weather it is beer, sugar wash, wine etc.
      > > >
      > > > I know too technical for new distiller but it is a verifiable
      fact.
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      >
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