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  • Keith & Cassie Taylor
    It is cold here now, so the room where my batch was fermenting was kept at 55F. The temperature of the wash did not exceed 84F which the retailer tells me is
    Message 1 of 3 , Dec 29, 2006
      It is cold here now, so the room where my batch was fermenting was kept at 55F.  The temperature of the wash did not exceed 84F which the retailer tells me is adequate. 
      Will more alcohol in my batch  make that much difference in my still temp?  It does not seem to have not have any middle ground either 80F or 182F nothing else, regardless of what I do with my water inlet or boiler temp.
      Thanks for the recipe help.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Larry
      Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 3:22 AM
      Subject: [new_distillers] Re: Hello from a newbie

      At 10:48 PM 12/28/2006, you wrote:
      >My first batch of beer was approx 6% alcohol (50 lbs of dextrose, 9
      >lbs of corn meal, 45 gallons of water, and .5kg of turbo yeast rated
      >to 20%) It fermented for 5 days before the action quit.

      >My first attempt I was able to get 1 quart/hr of 65%. My still would
      >not produce anything until it reached 180 deg F (I am at 6000'
      >elevation, so by my math it should have produced alcohol at 164 F.)

      7 sachet packages of turbo-yeast( around 600g-900g) and 90 pounds of sugar
      would seem more appropriate to 45 gallons of wash. Also, Cane Sugar might
      be better in several ways than Dextrose. It takes more dextrose, and it's
      more expensive per pound, on top of that.

      Also, most yeast packages, especially turbos, advise 6.6 gallons of wash,
      to keep the temperature from getting high enough to kill the yeast. If
      you're doing a 45 gallon fermentation, I hope you're keeping it cool somehow.

      Ethanol boils at 140F at sea level, and that's pretty much where a 14% to
      20% wash will begin producing alcohol distillate. As the percentage of
      alcohol goes down in the wash, due to boiling away, the temp of the wash rises.

      If it rose to 212F, when all the alcohol would be gone and you'd be making
      distilled water.

      Most people quit collecting for drinking at around 185F(sea level), and
      collect for re-distillation after that, until it reaches somewhere around
      205F-208F. After that, percentages are so low that it doesn't justify the
      money spent heating it.

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      *My* guess is that your weak wash is the reason it doesn't produce until
      it's at such a high temp. I'm sure there are better guesses to be had, but
      if you started at 14% to 20% you'd find a LOT of things working better. Get
      THAT fixed, then see where you stand on everything else.
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      The five days you spent fermenting isn't out of line. Turbo-Pure 48 yeast
      will give you a distillable wash in 48 hours, but if you want full alcohol
      content from it, you need to spend several more days fermenting.

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