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Re: [new_distillers] Re: Carbon Filtering Question..I'm surprised there was no response

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  • Robert Thomas
    After rinsing the carbon, dry it in the oven. You didn t lose the 20% you diluted it with the water in your carbon. The rest is still in the carbon. rob. ...
    Message 1 of 13 , Oct 5, 2006
      After rinsing the carbon, dry it in the oven. You didn't lose the 20%
      you diluted it with the water in your carbon. The rest is still in the
      carbon.
      rob.


      --- Alexander <amr_services@...> wrote:

      > Thanks for the input so far....
      > However,
      > I am still not clear on what I should do.....
      > a/ piss this new carbon off, and be ripped off by the brewshop and
      > pay $20 per kilo for the carbon
      > b/ dilute the 95% spirit to say...60% the put thru the carbon
      > filtering process.
      > c/ Put my head between my knees and kiss my ass goodbye...(only
      > joking)...lol
      >
      >
      > I guess I am stil not clear on why I lost approx 20% abv
      > Alex
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "sonum norbu" <blanik@...>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > Thanks Rob. :) blanikdog
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: "Robert Thomas"
      > > To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
      > > Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Re: Carbon Filtering Question..I'm
      > > surprised there was no response
      > > Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 07:04:25 -0700 (PDT)
      > >
      > > yup,
      > > dilution to (near) drinking strength is advisable.
      > > What carbon does is absorb molecules very roughly based on weight
      >
      > and
      > > inversely proportional to thier solubility in water (or whatever
      > the
      > > solvent mixture is).
      > > at high abv smelly stuff is well dissolved, but as you add more
      > water
      > > (to drinking strength) these become more likely to attach
      > themselves
      > > to
      > > the carbon.
      > > So, bottom line, dilute, then C treat!
      > > cheers
      > > Rob.
      > >
      > > --- sonum norbu <blanik@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > > I was under the impression that one is supposed to dilute prior
      >
      > to
      > > > carbon
      > > > filtering. Am I wrong there? My final product still comes out
      > at
      > > > 40%. blanikdog.
      > > >
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: "Robert Thomas"
      > > > To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
      > > > Subject: Re: [new_distillers] Re: Carbon Filtering
      > Question..I'm
      > > > surprised there was no response
      > > > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:57:22 -0700 (PDT)
      > > >
      > > > a Kg of carbon will hold alot of liquid and appear dry.
      > > > I think what happened was you diluted your spirit with water.
      > the
      > > > reason you got no more liquid is that some remained in the
      > carbon.
      > > > ie:
      > > > water(in carbon)+ strong hooch(liquid) -> weak hooch(in carbon)
      >
      > +
      > > > liquid
      > > >
      > > > cheers
      > > > rob.
      > > >
      > > > --- tim smith <tim_smitho21@...> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Hi Alexander..I too have the same thing happening.I
      > > > > did everthing expected to the carbon "stone coal" I
      > > > > washed it , dried it.ect..I run 55% through brewhause
      > > > > filter,and it comes out 45%..thats 22%..so i allow for
      > > > > that
      > > > > cheers
      > > > > --- Alexander <amr_services@...> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > > Ok, more info which may help.
      > > > > > I have a filter tank, 100mm dia. copper
      > > > > > pipe....reduced down to 12mm
      > > > > > pipe, valved at the end.
      > > > > > I have previously used the standard carbon which I
      > > > > > was getting from
      > > > > > the homebrew shop. I put in 1kg into the tank, then
      > > > > > allow the ethanol
      > > > > > at 50% abv to drip thru....(approx 5 drops per
      > > > > > second.....or at a
      > > > > > very slow drizzle.)
      > > > > > I am able to put 5 litres of (natures finest clear
      > > > > > fluid) thru at a
      > > > > > time.
      > > > > > This has been very successful so far.
      > > > > > However, with this new carbon I got.....it sems to
      > > > > > be striping the
      > > > > > ethanol out.
      > > > > > I rinsed the carbon with water before spreading out
      > > > > > on a tray to dry
      > > > > > out a little, before placing the carbon into the
      > > > > > tank.
      > > > > > I put in the 5 litres of the spirit, as I usually
      > > > > > do. After allowing
      > > > > > all the spirit to pass thru the carbon.....The loss
      > > > > > in actual liquid
      > > > > > was negligible.....approx 50 to 100 mls..
      > > > > > However...the difference
      > > > > > in ABV was approx 25%.
      > > > > > It looked like the ethanol was being stripped out.
      > > > > > I hope this helps.......
      > > > > > I look fwd to reading the responses.
      > > > > > Thanks
      > > > > > Alex
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "kirtgk"
      > > > > > <kirtgk@> wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > was there any moisure in the carbon??
      > > > > > > did you rinse the carbon to remove dust and not
      > > > > > dry it completely??
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > i once rinsed mine and waiter about 4 hours with
      > > > > > it spread thin on
      > > > > > > paper. thought it was dry. i filtered one gallon
      > > > > > and got just a
      > > > > > littel
      > > > > > > less out but the percent was lowered quite a bit!
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander"
      > > > > > <amr_services@>
      > > > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > I am surprised that there was no response to my
      > > > > > > > question,,,,c'mon......please give me some
      > > > > > input?
      > > > > > > > Alex
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > --- In new_distillers@yahoogroups.com,
      > > > > > "Alexander"
      > > > > > <amr_services@>
      > > > > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > I recently bought some Carbon which is an
      > > > > > extruded type, about
      > > > > > the
      > > > > > > > same
      > > > > > > > > size granules as the usual carbon I got from
      > > > > > the Home Brew shop.
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > I was very surprised that, after putting
      > > > > > through 2 litres of
      > > > > > spirit @
      > > > > > > > > 50%ABV, I ended up with 25% ABV
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > Why did the carbon strip out the 25% of the
      > > > > > Alcohol?
      > > > > > > > > The smell and taste were both very good...very
      > > > > > clean.
      > > > > > > > > Alex
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
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      > > > Cheers,
      > > > Rob.
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      Cheers,
      Rob.

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