43120Re: White Smoky-like haze in Vodka
- Jan 29, 2013In truth, Matthew, now that I think about it, I've never StarSaned a bottle for spirit storage, operating under the asumption that the spirit itself was a better disinfectant than the StarSan. I StarSan the hell out of beer bottles, wine bottles, jugs, carboys, polypails, and barrel fermenters. On one occasion, when I needed to crush a small amount of grapes without cracking the seeds, and before I owned a grape crusher, I even StarSaned my feet, but I've never StarSaned a spirit bottle.
Thinking about it, I'm hard pressed to imagine a condition under which phosphoric acid and dodecylbenzene sulfonic acid, the active ingredients of StarSan, could drop a precipitate.
One of my favorite brandies was one I made from apricots, but I never saw a precipitate with it.
Sorry I haven't been much help. I'm just trying to gnaw off the answers that aren't solutions, so we can get to the heart of the problem.
Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller Making Fine Spirits
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Matthew Rick" wrote:
> Have you used StarSan to bottle clear spirits like the vodka I'm having troubles with?
> I certainly dilute the vodka from the original 190 proof to 80 proof for bottling strength and I use city tap water. I thought perhaps this could be an issue but why then would so much more "sediment/haze" show up in the first bottle (which would have had a relatively larger portion of Star San sanitizer). I only stress this portion because the haze was significantly more in this first bottle.
> It only took a few days for the first bottle to show the haze while most others have taken about two weeks now. I used apricot juice as a base for fermenting material...not sure that could be a problem though?
> Thank you for your insight!
> --- In email@example.com, "tgfoitwoods" wrote:
> > I'm betting it wasn't the Star San, which is (highly soluble) phosphoric
> > acid and a surfactant, like maybe a sulfonic acid. I've use StarSan for
> > years, in all kinds of applications, and have never had a haze I could
> > attribute to the StarSan.
> > Is it safe to assume that you diluted your distillate from some higher
> > ABV to drinking ABV, maybe 40-45%? If so, some waters will form a
> > precipitate when used to dilute higher-ABV spirit. For that reason, I
> > always use supermarket distilled water.
> > Since it sounds like it goes to the bottom quickly, it doesn't sound
> > like the organic, almost colloidal stuff that some kinds of washes are
> > bad about making, The worst I've ever seen was from a macerated and
> > distilled peach schnapps.
> > Is any of this fitting what you know about your haze?
> > Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller Making Fine Spirits
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