36483Re: Cognac Grapes...
- Aug 4, 2009In OZ raisins usually have seeds, dried sultanas are labelled as a separate category. Quirky?
--- In email@example.com, "jamesonbeam1" <jamesonbeam1@...> wrote:
> ROTF ZB,
> Welppers, guess ya'll Maniacs must a have a huge Aussie population up
> there too.... [:D] [:D] [:D]
> Yes raisins are dark - especially the Thompson's seedless raisins, about
> which Baker and I were having a somewhat sophmoric, but really funny
> discussion on....
> But guess you didnt read my earlier post #36458 where, according to U.S.
> Code of Federal Regulations
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Federal_Regulations> - you ready
> - BUTA BING BUTA BANG BUTA BOOM:
> "The sultana grape is cultivated in the United States
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States> under the name Thompson
> Seedless, named after William Thompson
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Thompson_(viticulturist)> , a
> viticulturist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viticulturist> who was an
> early grower in California <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California>
> and is sometimes credited with the variety's introduction.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultana_(grape)#cite_note-ahr-3> 
> ca-4> According to the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Federal_Regulations> , the two
> names are synonymous.
> Virtually all of California raisin production (approximately 97% in
> 2000) and roughly one-third of California's total grape area is of this
> variety, making it the single most widely-planted variety.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultana_(grape)#cite_note-usda-6> 
> ca-4> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultana_(grape
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultana_(grape> )
> Now since the Sultana and Thompson's seedless dark raisins are one in
> the same, then golden raisins should be some other type right???
> But guess what... (nother drum roll):
> "Raisin varieties depend on the type of grape used. Seedless varieties
> include the Sultana <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultana_(grape)>
> (also known as "Thompson Seedless" in the USA) and Flame. Raisins are
> typically sun-dried, but may also be "water-dipped," or dehydrated.
> "Golden raisins" are made from Sultanas, treated with Sulfur Dioxide
> (SO2) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_Dioxide> , and flame dried
> to give them their characteristic color."
> So you see ZB, Thompson's seedless raisins, "Golden Raisins, and
> Sultanas Grapes are all one in the same animal.....
> So as some famous poet wrote once upon a time:
> "A Raisin is a Raisin, Is a Raisin... " Or something along them thar
> lines. LOL [:x] .
> Vino es Veritas,
> Jim aka Waldo.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "tgfoitwoods" <zymurgybob@>
> > Hmmmm. In the upper-left USA, raisins are dark, and when we want
> light-colored raisins, we ask for "golden raisins", or (drumroll)
> > Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller
> > --- In email@example.com, "jamesonbeam1" jamesonbeam1@
> > >
> > >
> > > Welp heck Baker,
> > >
> > > As usual ya'll Aussies always have to go your own way LOL....
> > >
> > > To me a dried grape is a friggin raisin - as it is to most of the
> > >
> > >----snip----
> > > >
> > > > That's the difference, you see. In Australia the dried fruit of
> > > sultana is not called a raisin but -- wait for it -- a SULTANA!
> > > > The dried fruit we call a raisin is generally from a larger grape,
> > > quite often a Waltham Cross or perhaps (memory a bit uncerain) Gordo
> > > Blanco or others the names of which I don't know.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > The Baker
> > ----snip----
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