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44855RE: [new_distillers] Re: [Distillers] Re: lautering/false bottoms

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  • Robert Hubble
    Jan 26, 2014

      I feel a little like I'm selling my firstborn into slavery, because these 2 Yahoo lists were my first window into what the rest of the world was doing for home distilling, and they helped me get past the klunky tinkering I did before I found them. They're still the first point of contact for many new and would-be distillers, although a lot of the old-time members have moved on.

      Speaking of which, Pint-O-Shine,  one of those old-timers, who just spoke about the needs of a distilling forum, has bashfully avoided the fact that a few years ago he founded the Artisan  Distillers forum, http://www.artisan-distiller.net/phpBB3/index.php, as a more orderly and comprehensive outgrowth of this list. While there are several other forums in the "new" form, I personally like the depth, breadth, socialization, and civility of Artisan Distillers, and recommend it highly.

      Artisan Distillers is friendly, supportive, and includes distillers at levels from the primitive level at which I work to people building modern commercial distilleries. While technically sound innovation is well supported and extensive, wild-hair proposals are not tolerated much past the initial discussion phase unless technically proven to be sound. We've got some killer fabricators, and get to see lots of photos of their work. We're simultaneously playful and deeply technical (and everything in between).

      At the same time, I hope lots of the old-timers from these Yahoo groups will hang around (thanks, Pint) and help me with all the folks who still choose to use Yahoo Distillers and New Distiller. Call me nostalgic, but I really like these old groups.

      Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller

      To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com; new_distillers@yahoogroups.com
      From: allibugger@...
      Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:00:02 -0800
      Subject: [new_distillers] Re: [Distillers] Re: lautering/false bottoms


      Would you mind sharing with us which forums you now consider the most informative and best organized?

      From: Robert Hubble <zymurgybob@...>
      To: "Distillers@yahoogroups.com" <distillers@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 7:47 PM
      Subject: RE: [Distillers] Re: lautering/false bottoms
      Morgan, I hear you, and thanks. I think what really happened is that we grew, both in numbers of members and in the amount of data we deal with, and the structure imposed on the list by Yahoo means that every idea about every concept by every forum member has to pass through the same tiny hole, and becomes hard to read and follow. I think that getting undifferentiated data in the quantity we do,  is in itself a kind of irritant, which makes us all a bit more touchy, and quicker to ire. The later, non-Yahoo forums are able to keep communications pretty well segregated into threads, so you can follow what you want, and not follow what doesn't interest you, but Yahoo's structure doesn't allow that. One job that we still do fairly well, I hope, is to catch distilling newcomers and get them started fairly well, although a lot of our old stalwarts are no longer here to help. I'll have to admit that I get much of my best information off some of the more modern forums. Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller
      To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com From: morganfield1@... Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:26:26 +0000 Subject: [Distillers] Re: lautering/false bottoms 
      What happened to this great forum? This was the place to find the best information about home distilling (and distilling in general) anywhere. Some of the people that posted here WERE EXPERTS! (Zy Bob is one of them, by the way, he's forgotten more about this hobby than most of you will ever know.) Now, members taking pot shots at one another. Entire threads of this! I guess I'm just an idealist! Tip one, Morgan And NOBODY posted anonymously. If you can't put your name on it, stuff it.

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