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Re: [neoplatonism] Re: Arieti and Neoplatonism

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  • Metta Spencer
    Thank you. Extremely provocative. It sounds like something I d love to explore further — if only I had time. — Metta Spencer
    Message 1 of 6 , Jul 7, 2005
      Thank you. Extremely provocative. It sounds like something I'd love to
      explore further — if only I had time.

      — Metta Spencer

      On Jul 7, 2005, at 5:32 PM, John H Spencer wrote:

      > Greetings,
      > The book by Malin is very good in some places, though I don't think he
      > understood Plotinus very accurately (not saying that I do!), but he
      > certainly was moving in the right metaphysical direction. I am in the
      > middle of some intense writing on my thesis, so don't have time to go
      > into
      > details of my own research, but I can give a good quote from Kevin
      > Corrigan
      > from his excellent new book.
      >
      > 'Plotinus develops a kind of logic of the indeterminate in which the
      > principle of non-contradiction no longer strictly applies because no
      > principle of identity can be found in matter's indeterminacy as such.
      > Instead of making true or false statements, we have to approach the
      > puzzling character of indeterminancy by combining apparently opposite
      > statements: x both is and is not. Plotinus does not, of course,
      > anticipate
      > quantum physics, but there is a certain similarity between the two
      > insofar
      > as contemporary physics has been compelled to think and speak of
      > probabilities instead of precise scientific measurements and to
      > recognize
      > the indeterminacy of descriptions such as wave and particle, or again,
      > velocity and position' (Corrigan, 'Reading Plotinus: A Practical
      > Introduction to Neoplatonism', 2005, p. 118.)
      >
      > Corrigan does not develop this theme but made a very accurate
      > observation
      > of the similarity. This similarity follows the standard Copenhagen
      > interpretation but may not map on so easily with Bohm's hidden
      > variables or
      > the many-worlds interpretation...but that is a different story. Most
      > physicists, rightly or wrongly, work with some version of the
      > Copenhagen
      > view.
      > best wishes
      > John
      >
      >
      >
      > John H Spencer
      > President, Interdisciplinary Forum
      > <www.liverpoolidf.com>
      > Department of Philosophy
      > University of Liverpool
      >
      >> --- In neoplatonism@yahoogroups.com, Metta Spencer <mspencer@w...>
      >> wrote:
      >>> My goodness! Have you posted anything here on how "Plotinus and
      >>> Proclus can be helpful in clarifying conceptual problems
      >>> in quantum theory"? I'd be interested.
      >>>
      >>> Metta Spencer
      >>> (no relation!)
      >>>
      >>
      >> I just checked the older messages, and two years ago I posted some
      >> as did others on a book on just this subject, <Nature Loves to Hide>
      >> by Shimon Malin, a physicist teaching at Colgate University. I don't
      >> recall he discusses Proclus but he certainly has a lot to say about
      >> Plotinus and Neoplatonism in general. The blurb from the webiste of
      >> the publisher, OUP, describes the author as a "leading authority on
      >> quantum mechanics, General Relativity and cosmology, and philosophy."
      >>
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