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  • John Smythies
    Thank you for welcome kind Thomas. Yes, I know Grof s work well. Google on my paper . Hoffer, Osmond
    Message 1 of 70 , Jan 10, 2011
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      Thank you for welcome kind Thomas. Yes, I know Grof's work well.
      Google on my paper<The adrenochrome hypothesis of schizophrenia
      revisited>. Hoffer, Osmond and I did the first work on adrenochrome.
      Which aspect of Grof's work interests you?
      regards
      john

      On Jan 10, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Thomas Mether wrote:

      > Welcome John,
      > Have you ever heard of Stan Grof?
      > Thomas
      >
      > --- On Sun, 1/9/11, John Smythies <john.smythies@...> wrote:
      >
      > From: John Smythies <john.smythies@...>
      > Subject: Re: [neoplatonism] Re: Thanks
      > To: neoplatonism@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 11:52 AM
      >
      >
      >
      > Greg,
      > As a newcomer to the neoplatonism group please remind me about Jung's
      > Red book. I spent a day with Jung at his home in Zurich in 1952 when
      > we discussed the origin of the psychedelic visions (on which I had
      > just written a paper). We both agreed that they come from the
      > Collective Unconscious. I am a physician and neuroscientist with a
      > background in dualist neurophilosophy and Near-Death Experiences.
      > john smythies
      > On Jan 9, 2011, at 6:40 AM, gregshaw58 wrote:
      >
      > > Thomas,
      > >
      > > I highly recommend watching James Hillman's 2.5 hour DVD on Jung's
      > > Red Book. Hillman is still an incredible mind and provides a
      > > fascinating perspective on how Jung came to produce the Red Book.
      > > It is well worth the $45 price. It is a good quality DVD. Hillman
      > > is masterful.
      > > http://www.depthvideo.com/store/Video_Hillman02.html
      > >
      > > gshaw
      > >
      > > --- In neoplatonism@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Mether <t_mether@...>
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > List,
      > > > I am enjoying the Red Book. I think John recommended it. It is
      > > tempting me to seek out a business venture. My wife's family were
      > > part of the Amana Colonies in Iowa (whats left of German
      > > illuminationism). They still have the know-how and knowledge to
      > > produce illuminated manuscript works. Thanks to John, I plan to
      > > approach them to produce originals that then can be mass-printed of
      > > Boehme, Gichtel, Blake. I will let you know of my progress or not.
      > > You know, it was the radical Pietists and what not, that seized
      > > upon a new technology -- printing press - to both survive and gain.
      > > My undergraduate years were funded by an art scholarship -- even
      > > though I went into philosophy and religion in addition to art. The
      > > Red Book has revived my artist self. Thanks.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
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      > > >
      > >
      > >
      >
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    • Melanie Mineo
      Forwarding these from John ________________________________ From: John Smythies To: Melanie Mineo Sent: Thu,
      Message 70 of 70 , Jan 14, 2011
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        Forwarding these from John





        ________________________________
        From: John Smythies <john.smythies@...>
        To: Melanie Mineo <melonyfelony@...>
        Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 11:28:54 PM
        Subject: Re: [neoplatonism] Re: Thanks

        Here they are Melanie,


        Kenneth Ring. “Mindsight: Near-Death and Out-of-Body Experiences in the Blind.”
        Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC

        Excellent!

        Jean-Pierre Jourdan “Deadline” (in French)

        Excellent for Francophones

        and one more
        JOURNAL OF NEAR-DEATH STUDIES
        Volume 21, Number 4, 201-221, DOI: 10.1023/A:1024054029979

        Hyperdimensional Perspectives in Out-of-Body and Near-Death Experiences
        Robert J. Brumblay
        AbstractRecent theories of modern physics predict that the universe has more
        dimensions than are apparent to us. Many near-death experiencers report the
        perception that there are more dimensions than we are commonly aware of. These
        two statements might be related. This article examines the possibility of
        additional dimensions (hyperdimensions), what they would seem like, and whether
        they seem to be described by the unusual visual perspectives found in
        out-of-body and near-death experience accounts. I examine some implications of a
        hyperdimensional model of the universe.

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        On Jan 13, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Melanie Mineo wrote:

        Dear John -
        >Thank you!
        >Unfortunately, we are not set up to receive attachments on the group site -
        >would you be able to send them again, directly to me?
        >
        >Regards,
        >Melanie
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        ________________________________
        From: John Smythies <john.smythies@...>
        >To: neoplatonism@yahoogroups.com
        >Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 2:32:34 PM
        >Subject: Re: [neoplatonism] Re: Thanks
        >
        >
        >Dear Melanie,
        >Here are some references plus abstracts (attached). Hope they are
        >helpful!
        >John
        >
        >On Jan 12, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Melanie Mineo wrote:
        >
        >> John,
        >>
        >> Re:
        >>
        >> "Also the new data from NDE studies (Jourdan and others) shows that
        >> real vision is possible without a functional eye or brain. It is the
        >> Self that sees—the brain and eye merely allow it to focus on the
        >> material world..."
        >>
        >> Would you be able to provide citations for the work of Jourdan and
        >> others?
        >> Quite interesting.
        >>
        >> Thanks!
        >>
        >> ________________________________
        >> From: John Smythies <john.smythies@...>
        >> To: neoplatonism@yahoogroups.com
        >> Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 4:31:17 PM
        >> Subject: Re: [neoplatonism] Re: Thanks
        >>
        >> I would say that the "eye of the mind" is phenomenal not
        >> metaphysical. It has its own ontology and is not just a logical
        >> construction. It (as the Self or transcendental Ego) is the most real
        >> existent there is.
        >> Seeing is not necessarily knowing. Neurological cases of associative
        >> agnosia can see perfectly well but they cannot recognise (know) what
        >> they see. In contrast, cases of blind sight cannot see the object
        >> but they can recognise what it is. This is because the gnosis pathway
        >> runs from retina to the lateral geniculate cortex, and by-passes the
        >> primary visual cortex: the latter relates to conscious seeing.
        >> Also the new data from NDE studies (Jourdan and others) shows that
        >> real vision is possible without a functional eye or brain. It is the
        >> Self that sees—the brain and eye merely allow it to focus on the
        >> material world: to act, in other words as the filter proposed by
        >> Henri Bergson and Aldous Huxley.
        >> John
        >
        >
        >
        >





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